Quitting Job

Liam90

Hey guys

So I have been working with the same company for 7 years now, It was my first job that I got when I was 16 and was there through school and college.

I simply cant take it anymore, I am treated like **** everyday and everyday I go home angry and very unhappy.

So I have decided its time to quit and look for a new job but my question is once I quit how long do I have to wait before I can claim the dole?

I am a hard worker and will search for work straight away but my worry is that it could take some time before I find a new job, so I will need the dole to support myself until I do find one.

Thanks for the help.

L'prof

Liam90 wrote: »

Hey guys

So I have been working with the same company for 7 years now, It was my first job that I got when I was 16 and was there through school and college.

I simply cant take it anymore, I am treated like **** everyday and everyday I go home angry and very unhappy.

So I have decided its time to quit and look for a new job but my question is once I quit how long do I have to wait before I can claim the dole?

I am a hard worker and will search for work straight away but my worry is that it could take some time before I find a new job, so I will need the dole to support myself until I do find one.

Thanks for the help.

I know you seem to be determined to leave your job, but maybe you should consider looking for a job while keeping the one you have. As far as I know it's a 6 week wait for the dole. Could be 12 if you quit your job. Not sure on that though, somebody else will be along shortly to confirm though.

Zambia

It's better to look for a new job while in one. Looks better on a CV.

The dole should be avoided.

schwalbe

You won't find a new job,you can look as hard as you like,there are none and the economy is going to get even worse so...

F1ngers

L'prof wrote: »

, but maybe you should consider looking for a job while keeping the one you have.

Zambia wrote: »

It's better to look for a new job while in one. Looks better on a CV.

The dole should be avoided.

I agree with these two, keep your job while searching for a new one.

sligoface

You will always hear that same advice when you are fed up at work. It's not necessarily bad advice to let caution be your guide and people say you will find work easier when you are in a job. But it's a bit of a cliche and doesn't always apply. Don't worry too much about the wait for the dole if you can afford to live for a few weeks and don't have kids to feed it shouldn't be too hard. The hard part will be if you can't find work, which most these days are finding very difficult. When you do get the dole sorted, could you live on it for say, 6 months to a year? Are you experienced in a field that is in high demand where companies are recruiting for positions same or similar to your experience or qualifications? Are you located in a place where there seems to be some jobs going, or are they dead spots (like Sligo, where I live where there is sweet FA)? If there are some, are those jobs ones you would rather do, or are they probably really crap as well?

Not having work and the paycheck that comes in will often give you the time and motivation to really pound the pavement, but in this economy the pavement pounding can become just as discouraging as an unsatisfying job. Job stress while employed can be replaced by the stress of not being able to pay bills while unemployed. I could actually live off the dole in my current situation, did it for nearly a year. But if I didn't finally get a job last November, there would have been no nice gifts bought for Christmas, no way to refill the oil tank when it ran out in January, I'd have had to cancel my internet and upc, etc. I also hate my job. I am overworked, my job is boring yet stressful at the same time and is completely opposite of my interests and what I studied in college the last four years. The only reason I don't quit is because I know I'll be right back where I was last year, and having no work, no heat, bills I can't pay, is worse. In saying that, my partner was getting horrible treatment at her job and I encouraged her to quit because it wasn't worth it. But it would have been a different story if I was on the dole still.

You'll get the dole if you need it, just realize it does not go far. People in work tend to vastly overestimate how easy people have it on the dole.

JerseyJoe

I've been asked in job interviews why I would want to leave my current, permanent job to move to something else that, while it may also be a permanent role, is more "risky" and "challenging" for my current situation.

God forbid someone is willing to change jobs to do something they're passionate about that might be slightly more inconvenient, but anyway...back on topic, perhaps from a security stand point you're best served to stay in your current job while looking elsewhere.

You've lasted this long, maybe the whole process of actually looking for another job will help you cope better in knowing that there may be SOMETHING out there. But, hope is a dangerous thing...

Best of luck!

Creamy Goodness

schwalbe wrote: »

You won't find a new job,you can look as hard as you like,there are none and the economy is going to get even worse so...

Don't listen to this OP.

TommiesTank

schwalbe wrote: »

You won't find a new job,you can look as hard as you like,there are none and the economy is going to get even worse so...

:rolleyes: Usual negative rubbish. How you can say that without knowing anything about the OPs experience, qualifications and the industry he works in is beyond me. Have you heard of the IT sector for example?

I suppose you think that those who emigrate are the 'best and brightest', with the dregs left behind. :rolleyes:

average_runner

schwalbe wrote: »

You won't find a new job,you can look as hard as you like,there are none and the economy is going to get even worse so...

Picked up a new full time job in three days of looking!! There goes that theory. IT sector though

whomitconcerns

schwalbe wrote: »

You won't find a new job,you can look as hard as you like,there are none and the economy is going to get even worse so...

lots of jobs out there depending on what you do. Dont mind this post..

ABajaninCork

Are you prepared to go through the hassle and humiliation of dealing with Welfare officers who treat you like something they scraped off their shoe? You need to give a bloody good reason why you walked out of your job (being treated like sh1t, and being unhappy won't cut it!), and even then you won't qualify for nine weeks, if Welfare deem you've left your job for no good reason. JSB is now only payable for a maximum of nine months then if you don't get another role, you'll be switched to JSA. Which is means tested. More paperwork, and more aggravation. Even then, you might not get it.

If you're ready for that - go for it! But I'm with the others. Start fixing up your CV and look for another job NOW, so that you can leave and go into another role.

Good luck!

Ray Palmer

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Are you prepared to go through the hassle and humiliation of dealing with Welfare officers who treat you like something they scraped off their shoe? You need to give a bloody good reason why you walked out of your job (being treated like sh1t, and being unhappy won't cut it!), and even then you won't qualify for nine weeks, if Welfare deem you've left your job for no good reason. JSB is now only payable for a maximum of nine months then if you don't get another role, you'll be switched to JSA. Which is means tested. More paperwork, and more aggravation. Even then, you might not get it.

If you're ready for that - go for it! But I'm with the others. Start fixing up your CV and look for another job NOW, so that you can leave and go into another role.

Good luck!

Jasus, I think that is a very extreme claim on the staff who work in DSP offices. While it isn't a pleasant experience I don't know if you can claim the staff treat you that badly. The whole nature of claiming is intrusive and there isn't much you can do about that. There is the mental aspect of how it feels which is not nice.

OP much better off applying for jobs while employed. Saying you left without a job set up is really not a good idea. A lot of explaining to do.
Seeing if you can even get interviews is important before you quit.

If you absolutely must remember to have a good reason e.g. Family issue that meant you couldn't work, health issue etc... It normally stops any questions and is accepted by people. It won't work with DSP but for interviews it will.

ABajaninCork

Ray Palmer wrote: »

Jasus, I think that is a very extreme claim on the staff who work in DSP offices. While it isn't a pleasant experience I don't know if you can claim the staff treat you that badly. The whole nature of claiming is intrusive and there isn't much you can do about that. There is the mental aspect of how it feels which is not nice.

OP much better off applying for jobs while employed. Saying you left without a job set up is really not a good idea. A lot of explaining to do.
Seeing if you can even get interviews is important before you quit.

If you absolutely must remember to have a good reason e.g. Family issue that meant you couldn't work, health issue etc... It normally stops any questions and is accepted by people. It won't work with DSP but for interviews it will.

Sorry Ray, but I have to disagree with you. I am speaking from my OWN experience. And I'm not alone in saying that either. I agree it's never nice dealing with officials, but the people in the Cork office were particularly unpleasant as well as incompetent. It only stopped when I raised an official complaint through the (then) local TD.

Ray Palmer

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Sorry Ray, but I have to disagree with you. I am speaking from my OWN experience. And I'm not alone in saying that either. I agree it's never nice dealing with officials, but the people in the Cork office were particularly unpleasant as well as incompetent. It only stopped when I raised an official complaint through the (then) local TD.

What exactly did they do?

tatli_lokma

OP, as others have said, stay put and look for a job that way. It is much easier to spin in a positive way to a potential employer than if you leave and are unemployed for a few months and then have to explain why you left your old employer with no job and only the dole to go to. Even if it is true and justified, potential employers don't want to hear that you hated your last job. Nor will they think well of you if you seem to be the sort of person who leaves a job with no other job to go to - it could make you seem unreliable or impulsive to some employers.

There is a minimum 9 week wait for dole if you leave your job. In some areas due to backlogs this can be longer. You can apply to your Community Welfare Officer for a payment in the interim, but going to SW and CWO offices is nearly a job in itself it takes so long and very soul destroying - especially for someone who is hardworking and has worked since the age of 16.

Tough as it may be, stick it out and look for a new job. Console yourself with knowing each time they drive you mad, you are already planning your exit strategy. Don't let them win by forcing you into a worse situation than you are currently in. Leave on your terms, with something else to go to. No point in cutting your nose to spite your face.

schwalbe

whomitconcerns wrote: »

lots of jobs out there depending on what you do. Dont mind this post..

No there aren't,this is why emigration and unemployment are at very high rates.

ABajaninCork

Ray Palmer wrote: »

What exactly did they do?

If you don't mind, I'd prefer not to go into detail over the 'net...But I stand by what I said in the first sentence of my first post.

Turtyturd

ABajaninCork wrote: »

If you don't mind, I'd prefer not to go into detail over the 'net...But I stand by what I said in the first sentence of my first post.

Unless you have dealt with every one of them then your statement is rubbish.

ABajaninCork

Turtyturd wrote: »

Unless you have dealt with every one of them then your statement is rubbish.

Your statement is rubbish, but never mind...

Ray Palmer

ABajaninCork wrote: »

If you don't mind, I'd prefer not to go into detail over the 'net...But I stand by what I said in the first sentence of my first post.

All I would say is that would be an unusual occurrence. Given a complete lack of any details and the manner you spoke of an entire organisation there is a creditability issue. Most people at some point will have dealt with some civil servants and would not take such an aggressive stance. A TD intervening is very odd as they can only make queries. People think they have massive power in the civil service but they don't. They don't even contact the departments themselves. Anyway off topic.

OP do interviews first and stay in the job until you get another. Unless it is actually making you sick as opposed to frustrated and unhappy.