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Scene from 1 year ahead

  • 29-08-2013 11:07am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭


    ok, so we have seen two scenes that are placed 1 year in the future (the breakfast at the diner\getting the gun, and the going back to get the ricin in the abandoned house)

    My question is, we are presumably at some point over the next 5 episodes going to have a "12 months later" kinda jump in time? We need a conclusion of the future time to have conclusion overall and I'm wondering how they are going to work it into the narrative

    I have no doubt, however it will be done is going to be excellent...just wondering how other people think this will be approached


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,820 ✭✭✭grames_bond


    how do you know it was one year ahead?

    **spoilers ahead**


    Just because of the bacon? Maybe Walt did that to get the waitress to ask was it his birthday - fake ID and all (he was using Skylers surname) - maybe he needs an allibi or something like that!

    One thing we know about BB - things are not always as clear cut as they seem!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Might not be a year but it's definitely in the future, maybe 6-8 months, he has a beard and full head of hair so that wouldnt grow over a few weeks or whatever after chemo. the bacon either is just his tradition or a cover story, he makes a point of giving the waitress a bunch of stuff to remember him by. I can't wait to find out where all this is going, is he there to kill someone, save someone, kill himself? gahhh season finale y u so far away?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,952 ✭✭✭Morzadec


    I was talking about this yesterday with a friend.

    Yeah, they're going to have to jump ahead about 8-9 months or so (by my reckoning it's about 15 months since ep.1)

    I reckon you are reading too much into it to suggest Walt is pretending to be 52 in the video (just an opinion).

    His hair coming back suggests time has passed too.

    He may well do a disappearing act through Saul, and then he has to come back for some reason.

    He looks resigned in the flash-forwards.

    The obvious bet would suggest he's going to be a dead man in just a few hours.

    But who knows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭splashthecash


    Morzadec wrote: »
    I was talking about this yesterday with a friend.

    Yeah, they're going to have to jump ahead about 8-9 months or so (by my reckoning it's about 15 months since ep.1)

    I reckon you are reading too much into it to suggest Walt is pretending to be 52 in the video (just an opinion).

    His hair coming back suggests time has passed too.

    He may well do a disappearing act through Saul, and then he has to come back for some reason.

    He looks resigned in the flash-forwards.

    The obvious bet would suggest he's going to be a dead man in just a few hours.

    But who knows

    And possibly someone else going on the fact that the ricin is still in play. Perhaps a bloody Tony Montana shootout, followed by a nice cool glass of OJ peppered with ricin? That would be too obvious though, and thats what I love about this show is that no matter what I'm thinking, I'll probably be way off how it is going to end...I think anything (and anyone) is fair game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,186 ✭✭✭G1032


    krudler wrote: »
    Might not be a year but it's definitely in the future, maybe 6-8 months, he has a beard and full head of hair so that wouldnt grow over a few weeks or whatever after chemo. the bacon either is just his tradition or a cover story, he makes a point of giving the waitress a bunch of stuff to remember him by. I can't wait to find out where all this is going, is he there to kill someone, save someone, kill himself? gahhh season finale y u so far away?!

    I read an interview with Vince Gilligan last week or the week before. He reckoned that when someone goes through a second round of chemo like Walt is going through, their hair doesn't necessarily fall out.........! So might not have taken as long as you think to get his hair and beard that long....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,518 ✭✭✭✭briany


    One thing we do know - we're in for a major montage at some point if we're to get to the point with Walt in a New Hampshire diner, sporting a full head of hair and a full beard. Things are happening moment to moment in the series right now, episodes are picking up at the moment we leave the last one at. It'll be interesting to see how they handle the jump to fugitive/legally dead/whatever Walt to make it seem like a smooth transition or if, as per my initial prediction, the events depicted in the flash forwards of 5ax1 and 5bx1 actually occur beyond the finale. Would be quite the curveball. Anyway, time will tell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭Drag00n79


    As a sidenote do we know whether the final episode is a double length one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    I'm imagine he'll go missing with his new identity, and at that point the montage or jump forward happens. They are hardly gonna show him hanging around New Hampshire. :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,518 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Shamrok wrote: »
    As a sidenote do we know whether the final episode is a double length one?

    I'd love a feature length finale. 47 minutes of finale is probably going to feel like it's ended before it's even begun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    His physical appearance has changed so much that it would suggest that Walt himself has changed, or that his attitudes have changed.

    This suggests to me an event that is so earth shattering for him that he no longer wants to be Heisenberg or cares about being The Man.

    I can only see bad things for Walt Jr ahead. I cant see anything else, that would have this effect on Walt.

    Is it possible that Jesse could 'break bad' with regard to Walt's family - Everyone is expecting Jesse to either (i) self combust or (ii) achieve redemption.....no one is expecting him to take Walt's family out one by one. Jesse could take the view that Walt tried to kill his 'surrogate child' (Brock), so he will will do the same to Walt.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,518 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Tombo2001 wrote: »
    His physical appearance has changed so much that it would suggest that Walt himself has changed, or that his attitudes have changed.

    This suggests to me an event that is so earth shattering for him that he no longer wants to be Heisenberg or cares about being The Man.

    I can only see bad things for Walt Jr ahead. I cant see anything else, that would have this effect on Walt.

    Jesse has had his personal life decimated by the meth business and he says this himself in one episode. He's lost, or become lost to, everyone he's ever truly cared about with maybe the exception of Badger and Skinny P, and are they really friends or just a couple of roustabouts who occasionally come over to smoke a bowl and talk shít?

    Walt, on the other hand, has only really had strained relationships to deal with. He hasn't had anyone die on him yet. Maybe that event will be the catalyst for whatever shítstorm is about to take place, like you say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    briany wrote: »
    Jesse has had his personal life decimated by the meth business and he says this himself in one episode. He's lost, or become lost to, everyone he's ever truly cared about with maybe the exception of Badger and Skinny P, and are they really friends or just a couple of roustabouts who occasionally come over to smoke a bowl and talk shít?

    Walt, on the other hand, has only really had strained relationships to deal with. He hasn't had anyone die on him yet. Maybe that event will be the catalyst for whatever shítstorm is about to take place, like you say.


    I don't genuinely think he'd be that upset about Skylar, and given he missed Holly's birth the do a drug deal, I dont know what is attitude to her is; but Walt Jr would be a realy kick in the gut for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Joekers


    What if he got away fine and was just going back for the ricin in case anybody ever found it and accidentally poisoned themselves not knowing what it was ?

    He wouldnt want that on his conscience now would he ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Isn't he sort of smiling and quite relaxed in the fast forwards? I don't think anyone close died on him or if they did then he doesn't care too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Neil McCauleys Cooler Brother


    He may seem relaxed in the flash forwards, but I think he is projected an aura of acceptance - of what, I'm not sure. Defeat? Maybe. If he's saving anybody in the end, I feel it must be Jesse. For the sake of what this incredible drama has given us for five years, please let the final dramatic arc include both Walt and Jesse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    how do you know it was one year ahead?

    **spoilers ahead**


    Just because of the bacon? Maybe Walt did that to get the waitress to ask was it his birthday - fake ID and all (he was using Skylers surname) - maybe he needs an allibi or something like that!

    One thing we know about BB - things are not always as clear cut as they seem!


    Very true. They've never done obvious


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,473 ✭✭✭Wacker The Attacker


    He may seem relaxed in the flash forwards, but I think he is projected an aura of acceptance - of what, I'm not sure. Defeat? Maybe. If he's saving anybody in the end, I feel it must be Jesse. For the sake of what this incredible drama has given us for five years, please let the final dramatic arc include both Walt and Jesse.


    Dont say that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Neil McCauleys Cooler Brother


    Aw, c'mon, man. Our hero is still alive, at least. Which, the more I watch each new episode, is probably more than can be said for nearly every other major character in the show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    the diner is in albuquerque not new hampshire btw

    anyway, i'll spoiler this as some people don't like to know anything, even though i'm not sure if you'd call them spoilers, some of it is guess work too

    the next episode To'hajiilee, an indian reservation where the money is buried is written by the guy who wrote Dead Freight, i expect it to be a really strong episode - just mentioning that as a writer becomes important to this guess work :pac:

    the real montage/catch up to the flashforwards start from here
    ep14 Ozymandias - given the ep. title & the poem, this'll be the end of it for walt, for whatever reason.
    this ep. is written by the woman who wrote Gliding Over All so you could say she has form for a montage.
    also a lot of dead characters(mike, gale, tuco, jane, krazy-8) are cast in this p. so maybe it'll be a whole flashback montage from walts memory

    ep15 Granite State - this is the nickname/state name for new hampshire so you'd imagine he's there, it'll feature anyway

    ep.16 Felina - i looked this up thinking it was spanish for ending but it's not. I read an article about the last episodes on metro and this was it about it basically
    It doesn't really link to anything that you associate with the show, it an anagram of finale
    But one theory was that there's a country song about a texan who's outlawed to new mexico after killing someone but goes back to see his girl/wife Feleena, knowing he'll be killed & he dies in her arms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Neil McCauleys Cooler Brother


    I like the way you are thinking there, batistuta9. On the episode 12 thread, I just posted something about "Ozymandias" and "Felina". We don't have to spoiler predictions, do we? In any case, I do not know how to put text in spoiler tags (the Newbie thread didn't help me at all). I think we are going to learn something crucial about Mike, Gus and Gale in "Ozymandias". I see a camera movement similar to the one that ended season 4: the slow dolly in to the lily-of-the-valley plant... Something we've all missed...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    Where's the camera movement you speak of?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Neil McCauleys Cooler Brother


    Er, "the one that ended Season 4". The shot that revealed the lily-of-the-valley plant in Walt's backyard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    Ha! Sorry, I meant when you say you see that, I thought you saw a newer scene that had similar camerawork. My mistake!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 167 ✭✭Neil McCauleys Cooler Brother


    I was channeling my inner Mystic Meg.


  • Posts: 8,016 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    ep.16 Felina - i looked this up thinking it was spanish for ending but it's not. I read an article about the last episodes on metro and this was it about it basically
    It doesn't really link to anything that you associate with the show, it an anagram of finale
    But one theory was that there's a country song about a texan who's outlawed to new mexico after killing someone but goes back to see his girl/wife Feleena, knowing he'll be killed & he dies in her arms

    El Paso sang by Marty Robbins, would be a good tune to have in a finale too :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    El Paso sang by Marty Robbins, would be a good tune to have in a finale too :)

    that's the song the article was on about - well it looks like it
    or else it was the sequel Feleena (From El Paso) that's told from her point of view, in which she shoots herself after the cowboy is shot

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Paso_(song)

    would skyler kill herself though? i wouldn't think so

    i could see walt killing some of the neo-nazis if they took her hostage & fleeing after that but i'd expect the family to leave with him, they're definitely not in the house anyway, perhaps they moved into hank & maries'

    but maybe it's just a song that walts' listening to like in season 3 ep. 2 'Caballo Sin Nombre' which means 'A Horse with No Name', the song he's listening to/singing when he's stopped by the cop. he could be listening to it when driving back there from new hampshire


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 907 ✭✭✭Den_M


    Just because of the bacon? Maybe Walt did that to get the waitress to ask was it his birthday - fake ID and all (he was using Skylers surname) - maybe he needs an allibi or something like that!

    Could be, think about it...a customer whos birthday it was, leaves without even touching their meal (apart from arranging the bacon into numbers!) and leaves you a $100 tip....you're more than likely gonna remember them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Doff


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    ep.16 Felina - i looked this up thinking it was spanish for ending but it's not. I read an article about the last episodes on metro and this was it about it basically
    It doesn't really link to anything that you associate with the show, it an anagram of finale
    But one theory was that there's a country song about a texan who's outlawed to new mexico after killing someone but goes back to see his girl/wife Feleena, knowing he'll be killed & he dies in her arms
    Fe
    Li
    Na


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,369 ✭✭✭the incredible pudding




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Doff wrote: »

    seen that on youtube, cringy as fúck


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