Anti abortion propaganda in doctors surgery

Fred Swanson

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Pensivepuca

I want to say there should be no anti abortion leaflets, but to be fair to both sides, both views should have space. Though, now I think, maybe there should be no propaganda type material and the professional view of several medical professionals should count.

Muise...

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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You could write critical notes on all of them, and leave some half-eaten jelly babies on the table. Pass the time while you're waiting.

jank

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Can you be more explicit in what you mean by anti-aboriton leaflets?

Fred Swanson

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blackwhite

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Was it actually a HSE-operated building or was it the GP's own surgery? Or was one of the surgeries where the GP rents the surgery from the HSE?

If it was a HSE-operated building then leaflets promoting one side or the other of a political debate shouldn't be allowed.

If it's the GP's own surgery, or one that the GP's rents to run their business, then they can put what they want there. And you are free to let them know that's why they won't be getting your business in future.

rainbow kirby

Sign it's time to find a new GP tbh!

kylith

Depending on what it said I'd probably walk out of there and never darken their doors again.

Clandestine

If he's a decent doctor what difference does it make? You know you can choose not to read the leaflets right?

Muise...

Clandestine wrote: »

If he's a decent doctor what difference does it make? You know you can choose not to read the leaflets right?

I don't think a decent doctor would put non-medical propaganda in the waiting room.

Clandestine

Muise... wrote: »

I don't think a decent doctor would put non-medical propaganda in the waiting room.

Maybe he didn't put them there? What about if someone snuck them in the same morning OP went? You never know

Honey-ec

Clandestine wrote: »

If he's a decent doctor what difference does it make? You know you can choose not to read the leaflets right?

Because if the OP (or his partner, if he's a bloke) ever find themselves in need of emergency contraception or a referral to abortion services, chances are he'll refuse them due to his pro-life beliefs.

Lux23

Get another GP, I'm pro-choice but I still wouldn't be overly bothered by a pro life GP as long as they weren't anti contraception.

Muise...

Clandestine wrote: »

Maybe he didn't put them there? What about if someone snuck them in the same morning OP went? You never know

well in that case, a word with the receptionist would sort it out.

MIRMIR82

Hopefully you'll never need an abortion so! Get a new doctor!!

biko

So what? It's hardly going to affect the performance of the Doc, unless you're there for an abortion of course..

Fred Swanson

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rainbow kirby

Clandestine wrote: »

If he's a decent doctor what difference does it make? You know you can choose not to read the leaflets right?

I wouldn't be able to trust that the kind of doctor who would put such leaflets in his/her waiting room would have the best interests of my reproductive health in mind.

krudler

Clandestine wrote: »

If he's a decent doctor what difference does it make? You know you can choose not to read the leaflets right?

It's nice having a choice when it comes to things in life isn't it.

jank

There will come a time when one is not allowed to have an opinion because of the usual PC defamation that comes with it.

Links234

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Sign it's time to find a new GP tbh!

very likely could be nothing to do with the GP at all, I've heard Youth Defence are slipping their own leaflets into doctor's offices

kylith

biko wrote: »

So what? It's hardly going to affect the performance of the Doc, unless you're there for an abortion of course..

It may effect their attitude to contraception; some doctors will refuse to prescribe the pill, on religious grounds. It would also make me wary of going to them with any pregnancy complications because their judgement of what is medically best for me could well be clouded by what their religion tells them to do.

Manach

Good to see a GP acting under his/her oath to defend life, at its most helpless in the face of state hostility and power.

L1011

I suspect I could take a educated stab in the dark at exactly what GP and where this is...

Manach - you appear to be under the delusion that doctors take an oath here.

Howard Juneau

Manach wrote: »

Good to see a GP acting under his/her oath to defend life, at its most helpless in the face of state hostility and power.

Did I wander onto the Syria War thread or something?

Honey-ec

MYOB wrote: »

Manach - you appear to be under the delusion that doctors take an oath here.

And that the Hippocratic oath makes any reference to defending life...

Sarky

Ask the GP. They might be just as annoyed at the leaflets being there. And if they're not, you can always find a new GP.

kylith

Honey-ec wrote: »

And that the Hippocratic oath makes any reference to defending life...

...even if they took it, which they don't.

Carlos Orange

Honey-ec wrote: »

And that the Hippocratic oath makes any reference to defending life...

The Hippocratic oath bars abortions.
It also mentions Greek gods.

padd b1975

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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What did your doctor say, or were you in too much of a rush to start this thread to actually ask?

Honey-ec

psinno wrote: »

The Hippocratic oath bars abortions.
It also mentions Greek gods.

The original text does. The vast majority of doctors who take it nowadays use the 1948 Geneva Declaration version, which removed the prohibition on abortion.

But, anyway, all moot in relation to Irish doctors.

April O Neill

Honey-ec wrote: »

Because if the OP (or his partner, if he's a bloke) ever find themselves in need of emergency contraception or a referral to abortion services, chances are he'll refuse them due to his pro-life beliefs.

You can get MAP over the counter.

martinedwards

so.... the OP is pro choice but doesn't want people to know about both sides of the argument......

hmmmmmmmm

kylith

martinedwards wrote: »

so.... the OP is pro choice but doesn't want people to know about both sides of the argument......

hmmmmmmmm

Or just doesn't think that a state funded medical centre is the right place for propaganda either way.

Seaneh

Honey-ec wrote: »

Because if the OP (or his partner, if he's a bloke) ever find themselves in need of emergency contraception or a referral to abortion services, chances are he'll refuse them due to his pro-life beliefs.

Can't you get the morning after pill over the counter now?

And if they need abortion services they will just be referred to another GP who will deal with that case anyway. Doctors can't deny you access to services, just refuse to provide them themselves.

Nemeses

Wouldn't it be easier to nick all the leaflets in the waiting room if its causing some imbalance?

Honey-ec

Seaneh wrote: »

Can't you get the morning after pill over the counter now?

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Seaneh wrote: »

And if they need abortion services they will just be referred to another GP who will deal with that case anyway. Doctors can't deny you access to services, just refuse to provide them themselves.

They shouldn't have to, in my opinion. And as someone (Bluewolf? Rainbow Kirby?) already mentioned, I wouldn't trust that a doctor with strong pro-life tendencies would have my best reproductive interests at heart.

Muise...

Honey-ec wrote: »

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.



They shouldn't have to, in my opinion. And as someone (Bluewolf? Rainbow Kirby?) already mentioned, I wouldn't trust that a doctor with strong pro-life tendencies would have my best reproductive interests at heart.

I agree. I'd just change GP altogether as it'd be a bitín hard to stand up for yourself to a judgey doctor and you with your feet stuck in stirrups. :eek:

Turtwig

GP surgery could easily have been a surgery with a religious ethos. The GP himself/herself could be a member of a religious association of GPs. If it's their own surgery they're entitled to leave whatever leaflets they deem to be medically ethical. That said, given Youth Defence's tactics it wouldn't surprise me if they were sneaking in the leaflets.