All seeing eye

Erper

Hi guys

Ive been listening song from Iron Maiden - remember tomorrow and ive noticed something i didnt pay attention before.

Out in the madness, the all seeing eye,
Flickers above us, to light up the sky.

What does it mean, any idea??

Torakx

Sounds like the illuminatted are out in the chaos of the world with all the answers.
Light,lightning,illumination,lucifer(as apose to Satan IIRC) are all symbolic of knowledge or maybe higher/occult(hidden) knowledge.

Unchain the colors before my eyes,
Yesterday's sorrows, tomorrow's white lies.
Scan the horizon, the clouds take me higher,
I shall return from out of fire.

Tears for remembrance, and tears for joy,
Tears for somebody and this lonely boy.
Out in the madness, the all seeing eye,
Flickers above us, to light up the sky.

Unchain the colours before my eyes,
Yesterday's sorrows, tomorrow's white lies.
Scan the horizon, the clouds take me higher,
I shall return from out of fire.

http://www.ironmaidencommentary.com/?url=album01_ironmaiden/commentary01_ironmaiden&link=albums&lang=eng#track3

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]According to Di'Anno, this song is about his grandfather, although the meaning of the lyrics is somewhat obscure. It is a relatively slow-tempo song, with both acoustic and power guitar parts and another great instrumental and solo.[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Some people have suggested that Di'Anno's grandfather may have been a Royal Air Force pilot during World War II. This is illustrated by sentences like "the clouds take me higher" (the pilot's view from his aircraft), linked to "I shall return from out of the fire" (the hope of the pilot that he'll survive the combat). Moreover, "Out in the madness the all seeing eye/Flickers above us to light up the sky" may refer to the searchlights during a bombing raid. Although there is no evidence that this is true, it does make sense somehow.[/FONT]

Last part about the all seeing eye does not make sense for that interpretation I think.

A lot of ways you could take it, because its kind of vague.
Going with the all seeing eye twist, and just having some fun with this...

Remember Tomorrow
An old time returned, remember (past) Tomorrow(future)

Unchain the colors before my eyes,
Take down the filters that block the light(knowledge) from my view
Yesterday's sorrows, tomorrow's white lies.
Grievances of the past are the bases for future deceptions
Scan the horizon, the clouds take me higher,
See further into the future, rise above your level?
I shall return from out of fire.
I will be reborn anew(phoenix)
Tears for remembrance, and tears for joy,
Tears for the past life, tears for the present joy.
Tears for somebody and this lonely boy.
No idea .....Sounds like the grandfather story.Or maybe just as it says in whichever context it belongs.not symbolic?
Out in the madness, the all seeing eye,
Out in the confusion and chaos, the ones holding knowledge,
Flickers above us, to light up the sky.
Flashes of knowledge to light the path(higher levels of standing aka the sky).

Unchain the colours before my eyes,
Yesterday's sorrows, tomorrow's white lies.
Scan the horizon, the clouds take me higher,
I shall return from out of fire.


Most likely wrong, but a fun exercise all the same
Probably people see many different things.
Other song meaning sites say its based on the Hobbit ...lol

Nice song by the way.

ps, Sombody and this lonely boy could be the same person with a fractured personality.Who knows but the writer really.

Erper

i know, ive read that meaning about lord of the rings and this song and i was laughing like mad...

there is definetly a meaning in this song, and probably in the other one too from same period...

maybe im wrong, but at that time rock songs were popular like JB, one direction, miley cirus etc today...

jacksie66

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Erper

jacksie66 wrote: »

Sauron?

You mean this??

Sauron the primary antagonist and titular character of J. R. R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings. In the same work, he is identified as the Necromancer mentioned in Tolkien's earlier novel The Hobbit. In Tolkien's The Silmarillion he is also described as the chief lieutenant of the first Dark Lord, Morgoth. Tolkien noted that the "angelic" powers of his constructed myth "were capable of many degrees of error and failing," but by far the worst was "the absolute Satanic rebellion and evil of Morgoth and his satellite Sauron."

and again related to LOTR??

Torakx

Well I think Tolkien was intimately aware of secret societies or was initiated, or just well read on general mythology.

Sauron and the all seeing eye has always reminded me of the things they relate to in the world that have been around long before Tolkien and probably inspired him to write those books.
I read TLOTR when I was 12-13(twice) and got hooked on fantasy books ever since.Truly epic for a kid with a vivid imagination
Without that start(4th class teacher reading us the Hobbit) I would never have been interested as much as I am now, in self education and reading.

Erper

so many tried to reveal illuminati and so many of them failed..

one of them, that i could remember was DMX...

Torakx

Got any song lyrics where he talks about it?
Maybe we can try to see if he was for or against.
I believe there is no such thing as bad publicity, it might be all these artists speaking about illuminatti are either interested in it because of the mystery, or are for/against it and are purposefully/accidently promoting them, through advertising(song lyrics and symbols in videos).

Erper

DMX - The Rain

also, rain man, who is so much adored in today music factory

Torakx

Seen any of Lenon honors stuff?
I watched all his videos a few years back. some of it is fantasy, a lot of it is really good and I think accurate.

http://lenonhonorfilms.com/WorkingsOfEvilRevisted.html
I know "Workings of Evil" is floating around the internet somewhere for free or "free".
My browser showed a plugin issue and it may be due to Lenon trying to charge for videos, he has before, but if you find some for free, Rhianna, Micheal Jackson, its well worth a watch.Will open your eyes to some freaky stuff that can't really be denied to easy.

Have a look at his stuff and try to find the one about Rhianna.
Talks about who Rainman is and the symbolism in music videos like Umbrella.

I've seen that DMX vid before, but he only talks about the devil in a vague way.For him it could represent materialism and bad associations or the actual devil.
The song lyrics might be more telling if they mention illuminatti or secret societies.From my experience most rap artists in the height of their career promote secret societies.Then get thrown to the turf and/or killed when they have been spent.

Oh jusst saw that link to the lyric, need a min to read
Yep, reminds me a fair bit of Rainman alright.

Erper

will definitely check it out...
i was watching lots of videos on youtube...
i even came across of a guy named: mike dice...
check his YT channel...

i do agree about rapers, and like i said most of them dont even survive after they, lets say, partly reveal illuminati society or even start talk about it...

list of "illuminati" members is huge, but sad part is that they are using youth population to brain wash them and through songs tell them that everything that was bad 20 years ago, now its perfectly normal.

i have sister and she is mad about JB, not knowing what is actually happening behind the scenes and how did he got so "popular", stage that he is now.

ive watched rihanna and few of her videos showing "rain man" or devil in it...

one of the videos is her song "umbrella"

Torakx

Looks like you you have come across the Rhianna stuff already.Lenon Honor covers that video, so not sure if there will be a lot of new material there for you.
Micheal Jackson one is just as interesting though.
I might watch his more recent ones, haven't seen any of his stuff for a couple of years now.Actually I might rewatch some of the old ones too

NegativeCreep

Never heard of rain Man until this thread. Love watching youtube videos about the illuminati, be it real or fake

Erper

Torakx wrote: »

Looks like you you have come across the Rhianna stuff already.Lenon Honor covers that video, so not sure if there will be a lot of new material there for you.
Micheal Jackson one is just as interesting though.
I might watch his more recent ones, haven't seen any of his stuff for a couple of years now.Actually I might rewatch some of the old ones too

I watched only few of MJ, will search for more...

Erper

NegativeCreep wrote: »

Never heard of rain Man until this thread. Love watching youtube videos about the illuminati, be it real or fake

welcome to the real world, it sucks, you're gonna like it

stuar

Here's a thread from a couple of years ago, plenty of reading in it.....


Illuminati symbolism in the Music Industry

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=68765946

stuar

Here's a few pics from above thread:






























I noticed our old friend/mod...Yekahs (Yitzak Rabin) is banned.....:eek:

Erper

whole music industry is named as devil...
as soon you mean something to them they make you sign "life" contract with them and they own your soul..

thats what happened to MJ and thats why he is dead...

Iron Maiden




Also, ive start to watch "National Treasure" with N. Cage..
In first few minutes, excluding walt disney logo, there was 4 symbols of all seeing eye...

rtron

Breaking bad Season 5 Episode 9

christ on a bike!

I don't understand what everyone is saying her.

So you bbecome famous from a catchy tune, does that mean you are then approached by the Illuminati and told you are stuck with them?

And why make these symbols, what does that mean or achieve?

I think it's a load of ****

stuar

christ on a bike! wrote: »

I don't understand what everyone is saying her. here.

So you bbecome famous from a catchy tune, does that mean you are then approached by the Illuminati and told you are stuck with them?

And why make these symbols, what does that mean or achieve?

I think it's a load of ****

Who do you think Bob Dylan made a bargain with here, Christ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqvvOD4bdRs

Erper

christ on a bike! wrote: »

I don't understand what everyone is saying her.

So you bbecome famous from a catchy tune, does that mean you are then approached by the Illuminati and told you are stuck with them?

And why make these symbols, what does that mean or achieve?

I think it's a load of ****

I agree to disagree....

Most of them actually did sold themselves to become famous...
When they sing in their songs usually they say " I sold my soul to the devil" where devil means "corporations" who stands behind the contract...

List of names is very long...

Id say recent one could be:
Eminem
Britney Spears

The one who tried not to get involved with the illuminati got imprisoned or ended up six feet under

Recent singers who died:
Michael Jackson
Aaliyah

Imprisoned:
DMX

christ on a bike!

Erper wrote: »

I agree to disagree....

Most of them actually did sold themselves to become famous...
When they sing in their songs usually they say " I sold my soul to the devil" where devil means "corporations" who stands behind the contract...

List of names is very long...

Id say recent one could be:
Eminem
Britney Spears

The one who tried not to get involved with the illuminati got imprisoned or ended up six feet under

Recent singers who died:
Michael Jackson
Aaliyah

Imprisoned:
DMX

Musicians always talk about commercialism, it's about dumbing music down for the masses.

I'm shocked anyone can jump to an Illuminati conclusion here. Or anywhere to be honest

Erper

christ on a bike! wrote: »

Musicians always talk about commercialism, it's about dumbing music down for the masses.

I'm shocked anyone can jump to an Illuminati conclusion here. Or anywhere to be honest

Are you serious???

Erper

christ on a bike! wrote: »

Musicians always talk about commercialism, it's about dumbing music down for the masses.

I'm shocked anyone can jump to an Illuminati conclusion here. Or anywhere to be honest

Are you serious???

christ on a bike!

Erper wrote: »

Are you serious???

If I said I was a high ranking member of the Illuminati would you believe me?

NegativeCreep

christ on a bike! wrote: »

If I said I was a high ranking member of the Illuminati would you believe me?

I convinced a guy in school who believed in all this that I had sold my soul to the devil and he didn't talk to me for the rest of the year :L It was brilliant :L

Erper

christ on a bike! wrote: »

If I said I was a high ranking member of the Illuminati would you believe me?

no, for 2 reasons you already mentioned...

1)
you think that commercializing of music is not part of promoting Illuminati..

and my question to you would be:

why some of singers have all seeing eye in their videos or holding their fingers in shape of 666...

so many of them sings about "selling soul to the devil", rain main (devil)...

when you take big music companies, like Sony, who were fighting against piracy few years ago (not that it have anything with this subject), literally own a musician...

why they tried to kill MJ in 2008 by trying to poisoning him because he wanted to leave Sony for good, cause he realized what was that company represented...
and than few years after they succeeded in that attention to kill him by accusing his doctor that he overdose him, where the case has been rejected this year saying that his doctor was inocent...
MJ sister said that he was killed... so if billions loved him, why someone would kill him??
cause...

MJ is worth more to Sony when he is dead than alive...

2)
simply saying that you are high member of Illuminati just dont work by saying it...
especially with your nick

christ on a bike!

Erper wrote: »

no, for 2 reasons you already mentioned...

1)
you think that commercializing of music is not part of promoting Illuminati..

and my question to you would be:

why some of singers have all seeing eye in their videos or holding their fingers in shape of 666...

so many of them sings about "selling soul to the devil", rain main (devil)...

when you take big music companies, like Sony, who were fighting against piracy few years ago (not that it have anything with this subject), literally own a musician...

why they tried to kill MJ in 2008 by trying to poisoning him because he wanted to leave Sony for good, cause he realized what was that company represented...
and than few years after they succeeded in that attention to kill him by accusing his doctor that he overdose him, where the case has been rejected this year saying that his doctor was inocent...
MJ sister said that he was killed... so if billions loved him, why someone would kill him??
cause...

MJ is worth more to Sony when he is dead than alive...

2)
simply saying that you are high member of Illuminati just dont work by saying it...
especially with your nick

I have given a direct statement that I am a member, and I am.
None of these musicians had anything to do with the Illuminati.

Erper

christ on a bike! wrote: »

I have given a direct statement that I am a member, and I am.
None of these musicians had anything to do with the Illuminati.

and i'm president of Real Madrid

christ on a bike!

Erper wrote: »

and i'm president of Real Madrid

I know you're not cos it's just not easy to keep such big secrets

Sir Osis of Liver.

Anyone else come across it in the new GTA 5 game?

Theres an all seeing eye poster over the fireplace in Franklins house.
My son spotted it and asked what it meant.
Theres probably more in the game as it progresses.

weisses

Sir Osis of Liver. wrote: »

Theres an all seeing eye poster over the fireplace in Franklins house.
My son spotted it and asked what it meant.

And what did you say to your son ?

thebman

This song is much better than the Iron Maiden one IMO..
DK - The Owl

Erper

Book Of Secrets - Freemasons