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Law and arts question

  • 25-08-2013 5:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19


    Just wondering what would be good subjects to take along with Law, I innitally wanted to do History and Business but unfortunately they clash, so I have to choose between them as well as choosing a third subject. does anyone know what subjects would be most beneficial along with law?(thinking business and economics or history and economics)

    If i could get any suggestions from past/present law or art students I'd really appreciate it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭freeze4real


    economics/politics/business. A combination of economics and one other is v.strong.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,441 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    Well the benefit of Business would be that you could transfer into the BBL in Second Year I'd you wanted to bit as a Law and History student I'm going to be biased and say History! I find that the two subjects can tie in well together while also having their differences meaning that one can give you a break from the other when needed. The writing styles and ideas are similar and your knowledge from one subject can often help you understand a certain topic from the other more. It is also a more unique degree to BBL which can help you in the future with job prospects etc.

    But again, I am biased. I wouldn't be surprised if the general consensus leaned more towards Business. I think it'd be more important that you choose what you think that you'd enjoy more and do better at in the long run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Paczini


    Also if you like foreign languages, a language such as german, spanish, french or even chinese would be a good option. I remember we had a guest speaker last year and apparently there's a lack of graduates with Law and a foreign language degree.
    Business would be a great option as well if you are really into it, BBL is a great degree but you would have to double check if you would be able to move from BCL Law and Arts to BBL Law and Business, if you were to do Arts with Law as one of your subjects then you would have a choice to move to BCL, BBL or LLB in Second year. I personally moved into BCL program and kept french.. I never regretted this decision but it really is up to individual to choose :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 linconpark


    Thanks lads for the suggestions. They were helpful, just wondering as well is it possible to study two subjects in the same group, maybe by attending some lectures from each subject?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Paczini


    linconpark wrote: »
    Thanks lads for the suggestions. They were helpful, just wondering as well is it possible to study two subjects in the same group, maybe by attending some lectures from each subject?
    Unfortunately not :( Lectures in both of your subjects are equally important and they wouldn't let you register anyway


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭dpp v mcgee


    You're better off taking Law on its own to give yourself the best chance at getting good marks.

    I took Law and History last year and I found that three days of study a week was not enough for Law. That's pretty much how I divided my time up between the two and with a full time job on top of that it made things quite difficult.

    Law can be a pain at times since there's very little continuous assessment so you have no idea whether you have grasped a topic properly since your grade is determined by an end of semester examination.

    I think this is the case in most Law schools in Ireland however I spoke to someone in their final year at Queens. The guy told me that most of his modules were based on a thesis or dissertation and there was little to no exams.

    This seems to be the case with History. A good chunk of your marks get allocated for assignments which is good. However there is quite a lot expected from you. In third year alone, a combined total of 30,000 words was expected for assignments which is quite high when you take into account the study required for Law.

    If you want my opinion, have a look at the employment opportunities for Law before you consider taking the leap as with many other countries, there aren't that many but its a good all rounder degree nonetheless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 577 ✭✭✭Paczini


    You're better off taking Law on its own to give yourself the best chance at getting good marks.

    I took Law and History last year and I found that three days of study a week was not enough for Law. That's pretty much how I divided my time up between the two and with a full time job on top of that it made things quite difficult.

    Law can be a pain at times since there's very little continuous assessment so you have no idea whether you have grasped a topic properly since your grade is determined by an end of semester examination.

    I think this is the case in most Law schools in Ireland however I spoke to someone in their final year at Queens. The guy told me that most of his modules were based on a thesis or dissertation and there was little to no exams.

    This seems to be the case with History. A good chunk of your marks get allocated for assignments which is good. However there is quite a lot expected from you. In third year alone, a combined total of 30,000 words was expected for assignments which is quite high when you take into account the study required for Law.

    If you want my opinion, have a look at the employment opportunities for Law before you consider taking the leap as with many other countries, there aren't that many but its a good all rounder degree nonetheless.
    Maybe you are right but I am just comparing the amount I have to do as a BCL student to the amount of work that has to be done by LLB students. They often have weekly assignments (that are not worth much but they have to be done properly), they have way more readings to prepare for each lecture and then if there's a lecture for LLB students only they have to know these readings inside out whereas I could do my own readings in my own time when I had time to do them.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,441 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    Like anything else there's pluses and minuses to both and preference often comes into it too.

    For some they will get better marks with pure law, others may prefer having two subjects and doing better that way. Some prefer exams, others prefer CA.
    The workloads tend to be quite similar for both from what I have seen though. LLB is just all law assignments and reading whereas BCL is a mixture from your two subjects - less law readings and assignments but more history readings and plenty of history essays in my case. Others may find it different depending on their subjects but in the end the credits all add up the same and your work all leads to the same thing.

    For the record I have always managed fine with my two subjects (and work and an active social life!) and never gotten less than a 2.1 so it is more than possible to do well. I also found the mix of majority CA in History and majority exams in Law kind of handy as it meant I could dedicate more time to law around exam time as I had already done most of my History work through the Semester.


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