€uro-Star Multi-breed Ram Sale

razor8

anyone at the sale today and what were prices like for the top 5 star rated rams?

Western Pomise

razor8 wrote: »

anyone at the sale today and what were prices like for the top 5 star rated rams?[/quote
No help to you but where was sale on,was in Dowra today wasn't showing but lamb trade was up a bit on last few weeks
However good quality breeding ewe lambs are back in price on this time last year.

razor8

Western Pomise wrote: »

razor8 wrote: »

anyone at the sale today and what were prices like for the top 5 star rated rams?[/quote
No help to you but where was sale on,was in Dowra today wasn't showing but lamb trade was up a bit on last few weeks
However good quality breeding ewe lambs are back in price on this time last year.

should of said - it was in Tullamore

factories are quoting base price of 460 for Monday was told today so back 10c again

was Dowra a full house?

rancher

razor8 wrote: »

Western Pomise wrote: »

should of said - it was in Tullamore

factories are quoting base price of 460 for Monday was told today so back 10c again

was Dowra a full house?

Suffolk and charolais made good prices, up to €800, most around €600+,
Texels were mainly 4-500,
My own vendeens didn't go well in the ring, but got 400each after so happy enough.
James murphy IFA got 660 for three lovely charolais lambs, was talking to him after, he was livid because our sheep boat for next week had been hijacked for cattle instead. which is stupid as cattle price isn't under the same price pressure as lambs at the moment

Lastin

Rancher what was the attendance like? was there a good clearance rate do you think?

Conmaicne Mara

rancher wrote: »

he was livid because our sheep boat for next week had been hijacked for cattle instead. which is stupid as cattle price isn't under the same price pressure as lambs at the moment

Who took their eye off that ball?

arais

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Who took their eye off that ball?

some of the cattle boats didnt pass inspection lately , maybe that would have something to do with it ,

If I knew there the vendeens were a slack sale I'd have gone myself

not interested in stars on paper only judge the animal

rancher

Lastin wrote: »

Rancher what was the attendance like? was there a good clearance rate do you think?

The best clearance was charolais and suffolks at around 60%
40 lots in the texels unsold out of 74,
So you can see I was well pleased to sell all mine

Western Pomise

Sheep shed was full and an area outside,I would say around 2500 sheep incl ewes ,funny enough the nos there are def down on last few years but anecdotally I hear quite a few lads that would often sell 400+ stores a year are creeping all their lambs this year
That and fact everyone lost more lambs with cold spring means the marts everywhere have less in sales.

razor8

rancher wrote: »

razor8 wrote: »

Suffolk and charolais made good prices, up to €800, most around €600+,
Texels were mainly 4-500,
My own vendeens didn't go well in the ring, but got 400each after so happy enough.
James murphy IFA got 660 for three lovely charolais lambs, was talking to him after, he was livid because our sheep boat for next week had been hijacked for cattle instead. which is stupid as cattle price isn't under the same price pressure as lambs at the moment

any day you sell isn't a bad day!

this boat really needs to get going to prevent these prices from continuing to go only one way. factories have it all there own way for the last month

how did the guy from Monaghan get on with his texels, some had impressive figures?

rancher

razor8 wrote: »

rancher wrote: »

any day you sell isn't a bad day!

this boat really needs to get going to prevent these prices from continuing to go only one way. factories have it all there own way for the last month

how did the guy from Monaghan get on with his texels, some had impressive figures?

Are you referring to micheal McHugh, Clarke didn't do as well
You must have a catalogue, 600 for lot34, 400 for lot 35, 500 for lot 36
Clarke sold two 380 and 400

razor8

rancher wrote: »

razor8 wrote: »

Are you referring to micheal McHugh, Clarke didn't do as well
You must have a catalogue, 600 for lot34, 400 for lot 35, 500 for lot 36
Clarke sold two 380 and 400

sorry, Malachy Mcmeel was the guy, 31 -33, again only looking at them on paper

Lastin

Those prices are no more than on par with what is available locally without the trip to Tullamore, it is a pity, last years sale gave breeders some heart there is a good bit of work with lambplus

rancher

Lastin wrote: »

Those prices are no more than on par with what is available locally without the trip to Tullamore, it is a pity, last years sale gave breeders some heart there is a good bit of work with lambplus

Was thinking the same myself, we're not being paid for 5star and when customers see 1star they try to discount, We actually took less in tullamore than we were getting at home
Mcmeals in the ring was lot 31 wasn't sold at 380 and lot 32 made 460, lot 33 wasn't there

Arrow in the Knee

How did the New Zealand Suffolks fair out?

razor8

rancher wrote: »

Was thinking the same myself, we're not being paid for 5star and when customers see 1star they try to discount, We actually took less in tullamore than we were getting at home
Mcmeals in the ring was lot 31 wasn't sold at 380 and lot 32 made 460, lot 33 wasn't there

i think in a few years when sheep farmers catch on to recording you will then see a significant difference in price

sheeper

I dunno about that ! How have all the past schemes went ?

Lastin

Lambplus is better than the LMI we used to have just the same, though I really hate the star system with a passion I would prefer a single figure like U.k ,the star system is genetics for slow learners. I would also like to see scanning results submitted to sheep Ireland to ensure all loses at lambing are recorded.
Lambplus will help when reliability % improves

tabby aspreme

Texel sale in Tullow yesterday, hoggets sold from 370--500 some had stars , did not wait for lamb sale

razor8

I agree with lastin, lambplus has improved and more farmers are entering the game. the trails are showing some very positive results also the STAP has forced farmers into the idea as one of the options is to purchase a recorded ram. if farmers see a improvement it will take off

dont agree with you a the star system, if you wanted you could use the overall star figure as a starting point, the uk have a lot more than a single figure, they have even gone the road of submitting fec samples

eg below, its a lot more comprehensive than ours. star help you if your looking for replacement or a factory job

Conmaicne Mara

razor8 wrote: »

i think in a few years when sheep farmers catch on to recording you will then see a significant difference in price

In my innocence the above statement surprised me.

Not sure where you're based razor, but I would have thought an awful lot of lowland sheep farmers would have been in like Flynn when it came to genetics, recording and star ratings. That perhaps it would have been more scoffed at in hill areas like mine but maybe I'm wrong on that.

razor8

the benefits are there to be seen, athenry sheep event had alot of info on it this year, there is more coverage on it now in the IFJ , biggest problem is obviously grasping it particularly for some of the older farmers. many of the younger guys in our STAP group are buying into the idea

Cran

Must say I'm convinced, and prices for farmers rams at the sales I've been at prove others are too. Stars seem to be having an impact on price up to €100 from what I could see, especially production stars.

As for one figure no way, when picking a Charollais ram to go with my commercials I have no interest in Overall and Maternal stars. Main interest is in Production stars, and have a quick look at lambing stars to make sure nothing unusual there. For Lleyns for keeping ewe lambs I will defo have a look at maternal and also at overall.
Having recorded the pedigrees this year and seeing their stars after scanning this week, have to say no surprises and seems to be giving me a good indication on how my stock rams are performing and which maternal lines are.

razor8

agreed, have a 5 star production ram that was in top 1% and really seeing the benefits
as well as looking at 5star for production for terminal breed I would consider lamb survival as an important trait

sheeper

But the fact that the farmer is getting the money back from being in STAP is the driving force

sea12

sheeper wrote: »

But the fact that the farmer is getting the money back from being in STAP is the driving force

I posted in one if the other ram threads but got no response. Anyone at the Charolais sale in tullamore mart yesterday. What prices were they making?