Planning for mobile home while doing up cottage...

dharma200

I'm sorry if it has been asked before, I have looked at many many pages but haven't found the answer.

If you are renovating an old rural cottage, which has water and flushing toilet etc. do you need planning permission to have a mobile home on site ?

many thanks in advance

Poor Uncle Tom

You can store a mobile home on site for 9 months without planning permission as long as it is not connected to services.

If you intend to use the mobile to live in (in this case yes) then it needs planning permission.

dharma200

Ok, many thanks. Storing on site means not being able to sleep in it then, ie. house has all services but whilst doing up a bedroom alternative accommodation as in mobile home would be required... The house is exceptionally rural surroundings, I wonder how many people who self build or renovate actually seek planning( I am not suggesting ofcourse breaking planning laws ).

Can I ask as I have seen many many mobiles on new builds and renovations, is planning for a mobile incredibly hard to get if there is adequate waste treatment on site , thanks again

Poor Uncle Tom

Actually it is not hard to get planning for the temporary use of a mobile home on site at all. Some LA's that I know actually give a letter of easement for people to use a mobile on site for a short period without the need for a formal application, however, this is actually bending the rules, but it may be worth asking.

Incidentally, why didn't you include the mobile in the overall planning application, I would have thought it wouldn't have cost any extra at the time.

dharma200

Many thanks for the reply... No applications of any sort have been made thus far, the cottage is an old rural building, with two rooms, toilet, that was occupied up until ten years ago, then sporadically occupied by current owners, who live abroad and who now wish to sell. The house is very close to my own parents and is in an ideal setting for us, however ofcourse it is extremely daunting. I have browsed through 94 pages of this forum lol, and intend in doing a lot of research and luckily family friend is architect and other brother is engineer.. At the moment this property is only one of six we are looking at a t the moment, all in varying states of disrepair, some liveable.

We would have to live in a mobile home on the land for a period, I just presumed you could stick a mobile anywhere, and be grand lol... How wrong am I, but at least this is indicative to my niavety... I a, going again to this property tomorrow, the real sticking point is it is a good half km up a lane and I know the house is not serviced by electricity however there are poles in the vacinity. Anyway, thanks for your reply. I understand ofcourse a project of this nature needs months and months of research and work, I adjust not sure how viable it is, even though it is almost liveable... And in the exact location I want... Regards

muffler

Just to point out also that when applying for an electricity connection for a mobile home you will be asked for a copy of the planning permission.

From a planning point of view there is never usually a problem with getting permission for a mobile home if a permission has been obtained/has been applied for in relation to the development of a new house or improvements/extensions to an existing house. Permissions of this type are generally granted on a temporary basis i.e. 2/3/4 years duration.

dharma200

Many thanks, so basically, if renovating or extending the old cottage, planning would be sought first, and included in that planning a mobile home, or if planning for works approved, then planning for a temporary mobile home would be pretty straight forward..

Now if anyone has any links to the hideous cost of getting electricity onto a site like that.... I am suspecting that it will be well into the thousands won't it.... I tried to find a specific thread or sub section to do with renovating old rural properties, found one or two... If anyone has any definitive web sites or threads here of examples I would be grateful if you shared, or anyone who has experience of rural cottage with no electricity but almost liveable.... I understand the cost involved in this type of project are huge, but this property is everything we want really.... And a home for life for us... Or perhaps years of turmoil and hardship:(

muffler

Many thanks, so basically, if renovating or extending the old cottage, planning would be sought first, and included in that planning a mobile home, or if planning for works approved, then planning for a temporary mobile home would be pretty straight forward..

Thats pretty much the way to go.

Now if anyone has any links to the hideous cost of getting electricity onto a site like that.... I am suspecting that it will be well into the thousands won't it....

Im not sure of the present situation (may still be the same) but several years ago you would have paid the standard installation charge which I think is around €1800 and that included the first 3 poles. It was around €600 per pole if you needed more than 3. A quick phone call to the local ESB engineer's office would confirm

dharma200

Thanyou... I suspect it's a fair few poles need going up, I am thinking the current owners have priced electricity in the past four or five years so will be asking them and ofcourse the e.s.b.. Anyway it's all pie in the sky at the minute but going back down the country to have a full look again at the house and the land etc tomorrow... Ofcourse there is no rush, it isn't on the market as such with the sellers and my family having a good friendship.. And the fact there are may properties in the market similar that are not budging an inch....