Wagon Silage

agriman27

Always used to get a fella with a single chop to cut but I want to get away from this method too much hassle and time. I have my own mower and tedder for bale making. Just wondering if I mow and ted my own silage how much would it cost per acre to just row up, pick up and push up only. All silage ground nearby the yard.

fastrac

Cash ?

agriman27

fastrac wrote: »

Cash ?

Yeah roll of notes goin out the gate when jobs done:pac:

yellow50HX

agriman27 wrote: »

Always used to get a fella with a single chop to cut but I want to get away from this method too much hassle and time. I have my own mower and tedder for bale making. Just wondering if I mow and ted my own silage how much would it cost per acre to just row up, pick up and push up only. All silage ground nearby the yard.

if you have your own tedder then you should be able to row up too.

what your looking at so would be the silage wagon and pushing up then.

agriman27

yellow50HX wrote: »

if you have your own tedder then you should be able to row up too.

what your looking at so would be the silage wagon and pushing up then.

The local wagon contractor rows it up in 30ft rows don't think he'd be to impressed if he had ta follow the haybob around

rs8

you right you would only annoy him with haybob rows, I would say you would be looking at €70 acre

agriman27

rs8 wrote: »

you right you would only annoy him with haybob rows, I would say you would be looking at €70 acre

That is round about what I was thinking myself hardly get it done any cheaper

delaval

Short draw rake and wagon €40/acre €45/hr for loader and with short draw 7ac/hr if wagon is big one.

Going forward...

Should be a seamless transition for your cows anyway. Modern day single chops. :pac:

bob charles

get it done by the hour:), cut quality and you dont have to worry about a high per acre cost

case 956

want the wagon route myself, mowed with 8ft disc mower, bought a krone wagon and made 8ft fork for front loader, 1.5 days 40 acres in. my own time cut wen i want and how much i want and not waiting on contractor... well worth it

simx

Around here €80/ac for mowing picking and backing up with wagon

delaval

We moved to wagon on cost and quality grounds. Will never go back to chopper.

We mow and push up contractor raked and wagons in.

What I love is you can do as little as 10 acres or as much as 70 acres per day, short draw

stanflt

Have 3 wagons coming early next week-- short draw is 4km round trip and long draw is 20 km

I have to pull one wagon as part of the deal

So I'll have self propelled silage jf precision chop wagon and bales all in different pits- it will be interesting to prove that there will be no difference between them as all grass will be 5-7 weeks growing

delaval

stanflt wrote: »

Have 3 wagons coming early next week-- short draw is 4km round trip and long draw is 20 km

I have to pull one wagon as part of the deal

So I'll have self propelled silage jf precision chop wagon and bales all in different pits- it will be interesting to prove that there will be no difference between them as all grass will be 5-7 weeks growing

Is it a trial or just the way it worked out.

I found no difference in the test but cows love the wagon silage longer material I suspect.

Dry cows stay very fit in it. Winter milkers will be on bales while they last as here to fore they have always been the best of our silage. No test done toe but I suspect the same this year. Then again most are only 20 days growth so should always be superior.

bob charles

stanflt wrote: »

Have 3 wagons coming early next week-- short draw is 4km round trip and long draw is 20 km

I have to pull one wagon as part of the deal

So I'll have self propelled silage jf precision chop wagon and bales all in different pits- it will be interesting to prove that there will be no difference between them as all grass will be 5-7 weeks growing

only difference you will find is higher intakes of the P/C vs you can reduced straw in the diet for wagon and bales so probably square 1 for them all. Each has its merits depending on diet

yellow50HX

case 956 wrote: »

want the wagon route myself, mowed with 8ft disc mower, bought a krone wagon and made 8ft fork for front loader, 1.5 days 40 acres in. my own time cut wen i want and how much i want and not waiting on contractor... well worth it

What are pulling the wagon with? And what have you pushing up?

yellow50HX

delaval wrote: »

We moved to wagon on cost and quality grounds. Will never go back to chopper.

We mow and push up contractor raked and wagons in.

What I love is you can do as little as 10 acres or as much as 70 acres per day, short draw

What do you have on the pit and how much silage would you get through in an hour?

case 956

yellow50HX wrote: »

What are pulling the wagon with? And what have you pushing up?

pulling wagon with a john deere 6506 and pushing up with case 5150, case well able for it as has plenty time between loads

delaval

yellow50HX wrote: »

What do you have on the pit and how much silage would you get through in an hour?

JCB 310s on the pit 60-80 acres per day one wagon short draw
100+ with two but one would be doing long draw other wise you'd never keep out af the way precision chop a lot esier to handle

grazeaway

case 956 wrote: »

pulling wagon with a john deere 6506 and pushing up with case 5150, case well able for it as has plenty time between loads

Decent enough sized yokes for it alright. You see plenty of lads using small tractors and gear that takes ages. How do you find the case with a loader? They look a bit awkward around a yard with one. How do you find the knee from the clutching. I remember we used to put to double chop ourselves with a buck rake, my dads knee used to swell up, I used to get a very sore knee too but I was only a teenager and 'twas hard work on the clutch.

Loaders with trouqe converters or power shuttles are far more superior for this kind of work IMO.

st1979

grazeaway wrote: »

Decent enough sized yokes for it alright. You see plenty of lads using small tractors and gear that takes ages. How do you find the case with a loader? They look a bit awkward around a yard with one. How do you find the knee from the clutching. I remember we used to put to double chop ourselves with a buck rake, my dads knee used to swell up, I used to get a very sore knee too but I was only a teenager and 'twas hard work on the clutch.

Loaders with trouqe converters or power shuttles are far more superior for this kind of work IMO.

A Case 5150 would be clutchless shuttle and probably got 4 powershifts unless its a sychro. I have a 5140 and found it handy with loader. No bad knees.

delaval

st1979 wrote: »

A Case 5150 would be clutchless shuttle and probably got 4 powershifts unless its a sychro. I have a 5140 and found it handy with loader. No bad knees.

Only ever had knee trouble when I was single:D:D

jersey101

delaval wrote: »

Only ever had knee trouble when I was single:D:D

On the knees too much

keep going

delaval wrote: »

We moved to wagon on cost and quality grounds. Will never go back to chopper.

We mow and push up contractor raked and wagons in.

What I love is you can do as little as 10 acres or as much as 70 acres per day, short draw

Yeah I like the flexiblity too and it just gives you abit of control when you mow.also you are inclined to cut a bit better when youare not paying big money