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Rewiring old phone socket.

  • 15-08-2013 7:47pm
    #1
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭


    Hi all. After a few years of just having an NTL phone from cable TV line, I've recently switched to Sky and I need my phone line active again. I had some building done in my hallway and I see the phone socket has been bashed off the skirting board. Inside the only wire still connected was an orange one, to pin number 6.
    I found this image elsewhere on boards.ie
    http://bogpeople.com/blog/images/eircom_master_socket/eircom_master_socket-photo_big.jpg
    There's also a green, black and white wire coming from the cable, but the black and white don't appear to be stripped at all and may never have been used?
    So from what I'm reading on the web, the orange and green wires should be connected to pins 4 and 3, as in the image here?
    http://homepage.eircom.net/~leslie/testpage/wiring.htm
    This line is supposed to go active today some time, but I've not been able to get a dial tone with orange at pin 3 and green at pin 4.
    Have I got this completely ar5eways?
    Thanks all!


Comments

  • #2
    red sean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,917 ✭✭✭red sean


    How did you connect the wires? There's a special tool, a punch-down tool for inserting those wires in the terminals.
    Might just be that one or both are not making contact. No need to strip them when punching.


  • #3
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,158 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Yeah, 3 and 4 would be right - it's the 2 central contacts in the socket that get used.

    The line could of course be dead from somewhere outside your house like the exchange or at the pole. It's possible considering it's not been used in presumably a very long time.


  • #4
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    red sean wrote: »
    How did you connect the wires? There's a special tool, a punch-down tool for inserting those wires in the terminals.
    Might just be that one or both are not making contact. No need to strip them when punching.
    I stripped them and wrapped them around the contact pins. Probably not exactly the way it's meant to be done, but no reason they shouldn't be carrying current.
    Sky told me the line was handed over to them OK and it should be live today (thought the broadband isn't enabled until 20th).


  • #5
    reach for the stars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 ✭reach for the stars


    Should be able to get a small junction box in the likes of woodies with screw terminals linked to a female socket for phone line makes it easy.


  • #6
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    I checked my Sky account and they say my line and rental is "active". The white wire sometimes gives a little spark, which makes me think this cable is connected to something! But alas, no combination of wires on pins 3 and 4 gets me a dial tone.


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  • #7
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    byte wrote: »
    The line could of course be dead from somewhere outside your house like the exchange or at the pole. It's possible considering it's not been used in presumably a very long time.
    Assuming this is the problem, who do I go to about it would you know? If I need my phone line physically repaired, I'd need to pay an Eircom engineer to do it?:eek:


  • #8
    paddy147
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 15,858 ✭✭✭✭paddy147


    You can buy a screw terminal phone socket/junction box in any electrical wholesalers or the likes of Woodies for a few euro...and try that 1st,as it could be that the old socket is foooked.


    You simply wrap the pairs around the screw/plate and then screw the screws down with a philips screwdriver to tighten down on the wire.



    You could also have possibly shorted out the line..as in blown it,.

    Or it could have been shorted out at the time of impact/dammage to phone socket.

    So it will need an Engineer to address the problem at the exchange end and also at your end


  • #9
    Gosub
    Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Gosub


    The L1 and L2 terminals are the ones you need to connect to. It doesn't matter which side of the socket you connect to, but the left as you look at it is the normal way. The wires coming into the socket are normally paired: white/blue, white/orange, white/green, and white/brown in a 4 pair cable ( the first two in a 2 pair). If the socket is terminating on the underground cable, the colours will be orange/white and green/black.

    Shorting the wires will cause no damage at the exchange. When you have the phone 'off the hook' a short circuit condition exists.


  • #10
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Well I left it with white on 3 and orange on 4 overnight... and this morning an aunt who forgot we had no phone line rang. LOL. I guess that combination works just fine! I don't know if Sky just hadn't made the line active or if Eircom had to do their thing to test the wire pair I decided to use.
    Thanks all. Now hopefully the Sky Hub will connect as soon as the internet goes live.:cool:


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