WHAT'S WRONG WITH LEGALIZING POLYGAMY OR INCESTUOUS MARIAGE .

Erinfan

I have submitted this thread in other forum but not gotten satisfactories responses from supporters of Gay Mariage who refuse the same status for other persons who have other behaviors.
They did not support the parallels between legalizing Gay Mariage and polygamus mariage in the same logic.

pharmaton

Erinfan wrote: »

They did not support the parallels between legalizing Gay Mariage and polygamus mariage in the same logic.

they did, you just didn't like their answers

kennryyr

Ha ha hahaha.

Oh wait, you're probably serious

hatrickpatrick

I'D RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT MY EARS ARE RINGING FROM YOUR SHOUTING AND I CAN'T CONCENTRATE!!!

pablomakaveli

I suppose realistically as long as its between consenting adults there is no problem really although having children in an incestuous relationship could be an issue of contention.

Manach

Simples - it causes people to type in all uppercase caps.

princess-lala

Ah here!

kennryyr

Erinfan wrote: »

...for other persons who have other behaviors.

Homosexuality is not a behaviour

iDave

Go ahead and ride your sister then.

biko

Upper case title again OP?

wazky

Incestuous marriages?

Sure we have enough of that carry on over in Cavan.

Sleepy

The same thing that's wrong with legalizing gay marriage: some people don't like others doing things they don't want to do.

Erinfan

pharmaton wrote: »

they did, you just didn't like their answers

They argument is that it is not the same matter .

They took the example of legalizing alcoohol is not the licence for other drugs.

Guyanachronism

I assume the OP also opposed inter-racial marriage back in the day. Because allowing inter-racial marriage will surely lead to the recognition of beastiality, incestuous and polygamous marriage.

o1s1n

Sleepy wrote: »

The same thing that's wrong with legalizing gay marriage: some people don't like others doing things they don't want to do.

Well, not exactly. The whole incestuous relationship thing has the down side of genetic issues with offspring. Don't get that with gay marriage.

SEPT 23 1989

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8

pharmaton

Erinfan wrote: »

They argument is that it is not the same matter .

They took the example of legalizing alcoohol is not the licence for other drugs.

I didn't sleep much because one of my neighbours decided to have a party til stupid am and I had to be up at 8 so my eyes are having difficulty reading what you've written. There are other threads here on the topic though some recently enough maybe you could have a look for them and chew on it for a while. (Might take a while to get through though it was fairly hefty)

BeerWolf

The OP wants to marry his numerous female relatives I guess... :pac:

Ghost Buster

The Lanisters ......... King Joffrey


Close the thread now.:)

Keith300

o1s1n wrote: »

Well, not exactly. The whole incestuous relationship thing has the down side of genetic issues with offspring. Don't get that with gay marriage.

It only causes health issues for the child if both parents have the faulty gene. By the same logic we should ban women in their 40's having children.

Jimoslimos

Whilst I suspect the OP may be using this as a thinly-veiled attack against gay marriage, I actually think there is a case to be made here.

Marriage is by nature discriminatory and affords privileges to certain groups. Gay marriage won't change this bar widening the net a little. I actually don't have a problem with polygamous relationships and I can't see why cohabiting siblings in a non-sexual relationship shouldn't be entitled to the same rights as a married couple (of any gender combination).

What I'd prefer would be for the state to stop getting involved in people's personal relationships and actually properly tackle adoption, guardianship and next of kin laws instead of relying on marriage to tick every box.

Sleepy

o1s1n wrote: »

Well, not exactly. The whole incestuous relationship thing has the down side of genetic issues with offspring. Don't get that with gay marriage.

Misread the title somehow as "polygamy or polyamourous"

junior_apollo

o1s1n wrote: »

Well, not exactly. The whole incestuous relationship thing has the down side of genetic issues with offspring. Don't get that with gay marriage.

Keith300 wrote: »

It only causes health issues for the child if both parents have the faulty gene. By the same logic we should ban women in their 40's having children.

Depends on the gay marriage, take male-male for instance...
They would adopt or only one can be the donor of sperm for the child if that was the route taken.

Potentially incestuous couples could choose to have children in the same way if there was fear of implications.

Odats

Wouldn't be in favour of an incestuous marriage. That's a complete No No.

Polygamy is permitted in some religions like Mormon and Islam AFAIK.

mirekb

The difference being that polygamy and incest are a lifestyle choice and things like race and sexuality are genetic and therefore should not be subject to opinion.

mad muffin

What about gay incestuous polygamous marriages?

frag420

So is your sister any good in bed OP?? Is she as game as you seem to be? Would I have to pretend to be you if I were to get some freaky time with her?

If so you may need to teach me some of your freaky mannerisms and how to do your accent.

I am only doing this to save your soul!!

frAg

1ZRed

The thing that annoys me is that polygamous marriage, and even incestuous marriage, is always tacked onto gay marriage. They're not related. It's not my argument to deflect back, even though it's always thrown out a by those against gay marriage as a reason to oppose it.

Let's just deal with gay marriage and take it on it's own, and then after we can discuss polygamous and incestuous marriage by their own merit and deem them appropriate or not on a case by case basis using logic.

Why muddy the discussion with all these unrelated issues? Gay marriage and polygamous marriage have nothing at all in common.

Jester252

Polygamy marriage, like homosexual marriage, should be legal. I don't care what consenting adults do nor should I/other should prevent them from doing it.

1ZRed

Jester252 wrote: »

Polygamy marriage, like homosexual marriage, should be legal. I don't care what consenting adults do nor should I/other should prevent them from doing it.

I'm of the mindset that I don't care what consenting adults do either, but would there be a limit on how many partners they could marry? Could they have 10 or 12 patterns, or more? I'd imagine it'd be a headache to regulate and keep track of, not to mention divorce would be an absolute nightmare.

tritium

mirekb wrote: »

The difference being that polygamy and incest are a lifestyle choice and things like race and sexuality are genetic and therefore should not be subject to opinion.

While I don't have any particular opinion here, your point is somewhat spurious.

Marriage is the lifestyle choice that is subject to contention in all three scenarios, the question is which groups should be allowed avail of it.

For example an incestuous couple may rightly make the point that their love for each other is just as valid as any gay couple and/ or they didn't choose who they fell in love with. In effect love isn't a lifestyle choice

Guyanachronism

I never see anyone make an argument in favour of polygamy, incest etc. except as a counter point to gay marriage. It's fallacious.

Incest is attraction, nobody is only attracted to their relations, they can be attracted to others. Polygamy is a form of marriage, there aren't people out there who could only be attracted to multiple wives. LGB is a sexual orientation, the majority are only attracted to one sex.

Each of these things should be debated on their own merits and not a thinly veiled attack on gay marriage and its supporters.

It's inherently flawed to say, we can't give women the vote because if we do, they will demand better wages than men. Everyone agrees the first statement is right and it would be wrong to deny women the vote despite the potential and never realised negative consequences. Appeal to potential negative consquence isn't an effective argument.

It's the same as I posted first, if I argued back in the day that we can't allow inter-racial marriage because it will result in incestuous and polyamorous marriage. How many people are going to now oppose inter-racial marriage due to the fear of incestuous and polygamous relationships gaining recognition?

If somebody wants to argue in favor of incest and polygamy, do so but it's fallacious to thnk that everyone who supports gay marriage must now support every other change. It's been decades of campaigning and combatting negative stereotype to get to this point.

Keith300

1ZRed wrote: »

The thing that annoys me is that polygamous marriage, and even incestuous marriage, is always tacked onto gay marriage. They're not related. It's not my argument to deflect back, even though it's always thrown out a by those against gay marriage as a reason to oppose it.

Let's just deal with gay marriage and take it on it's own, and then after we can discuss polygamous and incestuous marriage by their own merit and deem them appropriate or not on a case by case basis using logic.

Why muddy the discussion with all these unrelated issues? Gay marriage and polygamous marriage have nothing at all in common.

They have one thing in common, both are subject of prejudice.

People should be allowed marry whoever they want so long as both are consenting adults.

Jester252

1ZRed wrote: »

I'm of the mindset that I don't care what consenting adults do either, but would there be a limit on how many partners they could marry? Could they have 10 or 12 patterns, or more? I'd imagine it'd be a headache to regulate and keep track of, not to mention divorce would be an absolute nightmare.

That one hell of a jump to make but if you can find 10 or more people who love you and each other your one lucky guy.

But regulation wise that something that they would have to deal with if it ever gets to that.

Guyanachronism

If polygamy was legalised, I could make a fortune as an Irish visa factory. €500 for a marriage and do the paperwork to get them a residency card in Ireland, and cheerio.

And with gay marriage legalised, I would double my market!

danniemcq

Just because you didn't get the answers you were looking for elsewhere on boards does not mean you can then try another forum for support.

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