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Shipping guns into Ireland

  • 12-08-2013 9:06pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭


    Is it still possible to get guns from Asia into Ireland? I know there's supposed to be a ban on it, but is it in yet? Is it still possible? Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Untamedlemon


    VFCM4ster wrote: »
    Is it still possible to get guns from Asia into Ireland? I know there's supposed to be a ban on it, but is it in yet? Is it still possible? Thanks

    You can get them into Ireland as long as they are firing under 328 fps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭The_Outlaw


    VFCM4ster wrote: »
    Is it still possible to get guns from Asia into Ireland? I know there's supposed to be a ban on it, but is it in yet? Is it still possible? Thanks


    Once the gun is firing under 1J and is under 328 fps it's fine...... Nothing to stop you importing at all......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭VFCM4ster


    I know about the fps limits.. duh :p But I've heard talk of a ban completely on imports.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭The_Outlaw


    Nah, not going to happen, sure even guns that are sold in stores are imports..... If you import and its above 1j customs will cease it and you loose your money....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭VFCM4ster


    How do customs know if it's under 1J?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,808 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    The personal import ban hasnt come into effect yet but they can enforce it at any time. The retailer licencing system has never been completed so it probably won't be enforced for a while.

    They measure the power with a chronograph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭jayod30


    The best thing you can do if your importing a gun is to send at least 2 emails to whatever company your buying from stressing the importance of the gun firing at below the 328fps limit. That way if an issue arises with customs seizing and destroying it then you have a strong case should you need to open a PayPal dispute to retrieve your money.

    This is just a measure I use when importing but to be honest, the chances of your gun being seized for testing is very slim. Myself and friends of mine have imported numerous aegs, a lot shooting well over the legal limit, even after paying for the downgrade and never once was there an issue. Even guns that they advertise as below the 1 joule limit have arrived well over the 1 joule, one as high as 390fps:eek:. The likes of UPS, whom most large foreign airsoft shops use just fast track the parcel through customs, claiming themselves on their website that most parcels are cleared through customs while your parcel is still in the air. I'm not saying your 100% safe when it comes to you importing an airsoft gun but in my experience and others I know it's relatively hassle free, all customs want is your hard earned cash:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭VFCM4ster


    @Blay: They actually take the guns out of their packages to measure the velocity?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭The_Outlaw


    VFCM4ster wrote: »
    @Blay: They actually take the guns out of their packages to measure the velocity?

    They can do if they feel there may be an issue with it but in most cases a customs agent never even sees the Aeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Garzard


    Do international airsoft sites give downgrades to Irish orders?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭VFCM4ster


    @Garzard I believe so yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Garzard wrote: »
    Do international airsoft sites give downgrades to Irish orders?
    VFCM4ster wrote: »
    @Garzard I believe so yes.

    They *say* they do but even retailers here have posted that it's not always the case and have had shipments seized and destroyed.

    I'm not saying you shouldn't do it but there's a lot to be said for letting others take the pain and risk and also supporting Irish businesses. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭The_Outlaw


    Garzard wrote: »
    Do international airsoft sites give downgrades to Irish orders?

    Some companies will be happy to do it (for a premium charge of course) but after customs charges etc there really isn't much of a savings.... I recommend talking to the guys at airsoft Eire, hobby Airsofters or airsoft guns.ie depending on where you are based..... They will have a good selection and if its something they don't have they will do their best to get it for you....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭VFCM4ster


    Steve wrote: »
    They *say* they do but even retailers here have posted that it's not always the case and have had shipments seized and destroyed.

    I'm not saying you shouldn't do it but there's a lot to be said for letting others take the pain and risk and also supporting Irish businesses. :)

    Thanks for the correction ;). I'm all for supporting irish retailers, I buy all of my guns/bb's from AirsoftEire, but sometimes, You have no choice but to order something from overseas. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Garzard


    The_Outlaw wrote: »
    Some companies will be happy to do it (for a premium charge of course) but after customs charges etc there really isn't much of a savings.... I recommend talking to the guys at airsoft Eire, hobby Airsofters or airsoft guns.ie depending on where you are based..... They will have a good selection and if its something they don't have they will do their best to get it for you....

    The Irish velocity limit is 328fps - many AEG's I've looked at on the likes of AirSplat say 330fps. Would an import of one of those that be let away with without a downgrade?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,377 ✭✭✭zenno


    I'm just curious, but how many joules can these air-soft guns go to ? What is the highest joules possible in one of these things ? is there a limit ?.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭The_Outlaw


    Normally I have seen guns shooting at 2 joules outside of Ireland, however I have seen some shoot as hot as 4 joules in the past.... Would never want to be on the receiving end of that...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭dublinscot


    If i ordered from gunfire.pl would i have to pay customs taxes? Or are there no import taxes since Poland is in the EU?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,062 ✭✭✭whydave




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭The_Outlaw


    One a country is in the euro zone you don need to pay Vat. It has nothing to do with what countries use the Euro and the ones that don't.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭dublinscot


    The_Outlaw wrote: »
    One a country is in the euro zone you don need to pay Vat.
    Do you mean EU?
    It has nothing to do with what countries use the Euro and the ones that don't.....
    That's what i wasn't sure about, thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭The_Outlaw


    Yeah Poland is in the European Union, so you don't have to pay tax....the guy above put in euro zone which put me off..... Sorry for confusion.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭The_Outlaw


    Due to free trade laws amount all European countries no extra taxes can be charged by law by the Irish government on any item imported into the country....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,561 ✭✭✭andy_g


    The_Outlaw wrote: »
    Due to free trade laws amount all European countries no extra taxes can be charged by law by the Irish government on any item imported into the country....

    Shhhh dont tell Enda that he may change it.


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