NCT - Can it be taken off you?

sally365

Just booked my NCT test, a few months early since its going great for NOW, but i just thought, if it was to FAIL the test, i'd still be driving around with a valid NCT cert...

If my car was to fail would my old cert still be valid ?

Seems a bit ridiculously you could fail and drive around the place.

Anan1

It'll still be valid. If they find a dangerous fault, though, they are obliged to inform the Gardaí if you attempt to drive the car away.

_Kaiser_

sally365 wrote: »

Seems a bit ridiculously you could fail and drive around the place.

When you think about it though it's not surprising in a country where you can do your driving test, fail, and still drive home after :rolleyes:

CiniO

sally365 wrote: »

Just booked my NCT test, a few months early since its going great for NOW, but i just thought, if it was to FAIL the test, i'd still be driving around with a valid NCT cert...

If my car was to fail would my old cert still be valid ?

Yes, your old cert is valid to it's expiry date no matter what happens with the car.

Seems a bit ridiculously you could fail and drive around the place.

It's not.
People seem to confuse valid NCT cert with car roadworthiness.
They are two different things which have very little to do with each other, except that it's illegal to drive car without NCT, and it's illegal to drive unroadworthy car.

Requirement for having valid NCT is there to make sure people have their cars examined every year / two years.

Fact that your car failed NCT in the mean time, might mean that car is not roadworthy, but doesn't mean that previous NCT should be cancelled, as NCT cert is not a proof of roadworthiness.

kincaid

police impounded my friends car last thursday,
it was due to be mot tested today and had booking form with him,
it shouldnt be on the road he was told although its already checked over and needs nothing for test.He was told he would also be prosecuted ,
they dont give you any chances up north like up here with the garda as they are not near as strict

galwaytt

kincaid wrote: »

police impounded my friends car last thursday,
it was due to be mot tested today and had booking form with him,
it shouldnt be on the road he was told although its already checked over and needs nothing for test.He was told he would also be prosecuted ,
they dont give you any chances up north like up here with the garda as they are not near as strict

Yes, but you don't have a 12 week waiting list to get a test, either. You can use any MOT licenced garage.

mickdw

I think the only valid reason to be on the road in the UK without an mot is if your are on your way to the test centre. If you cannot show that you are indeed on your way to a pre booked test, there is no mercy. Fantastic system really although given that many garages carry out tests in UK, it is arguably more open to advise than here with regard to dodgy certs being issued.

unkel

galwaytt wrote: »

Yes, but you don't have a 12 week waiting list to get a test, either.

You can test the car 12 weeks early. So 12 weeks early minus 12 weeks means zero waiting list

slimjimmc

galwaytt wrote: »

Yes, but you don't have a 12 week waiting list to get a test, either. You can use any MOT licenced garage.

Don't they have dedicated test centres up north, similar to here?
There are 15 test centres in NI, many of which double up as driving test centres.

CiniO

kincaid wrote: »

police impounded my friends car last thursday,
it was due to be mot tested today and had booking form with him,
it shouldnt be on the road he was told although its already checked over and needs nothing for test.He was told he would also be prosecuted ,
they dont give you any chances up north like up here with the garda as they are not near as strict

And that's absolutely normal. That's how it works in most places around the world. Sadly not in Ireland.

CiniO

unkel wrote: »

You can test the car 12 weeks early. So 12 weeks early minus 12 weeks means zero waiting list

Oh come on.
My NCT is due in end of November, so earlierst I can do it is end of August.
I've been ringing them for last few weeks, checked online every day, and nothing. I can't get a test earlier than November.

And unfortunately in November I might be out of the country, so I won't be able to test it.

In countries where normal system applies, you can wake up in the morning, come up with idea that you will test your car today, drive to the testing centre and test is and get a cert valid for a year from that date.

In Ireland your options are extremally limited.

discombobulate

unkel wrote: »

You can test the car 12 weeks early. So 12 weeks early minus 12 weeks means zero waiting list

I've imported a car a month ago and its only registered on their systems now. Made my booking and best I can get is beginning of October.

quenching

CiniO wrote: »

Oh come on.
My NCT is due in end of November, so earlierst I can do it is end of August.
I've been ringing them for last few weeks, checked online every day, and nothing. I can't get a test earlier than November.

And unfortunately in November I might be out of the country, so I won't be able to test it.

They have to offer you a suitable test date and time within 28 days of you requesting one or the test is free. If you remind them of this when you call they always manage to find a suitable test time within a few days. So you can ring them today and have your car tested by mid Sept at the latest. However, if you've already accepted a test date in November you're stuck with it.

kincaid

no you can only use the mot licenced garages across the water not in Northern Ireland and its similar set up to here but all the same its very harsh to have a car impounded since he had a booking form etc for the next week.
just dont except any excuses up north, its fairly relaxed here compared to it

snaps

CiniO wrote: »

Oh come on.
My NCT is due in end of November, so earlierst I can do it is end of August.
I've been ringing them for last few weeks, checked online every day, and nothing. I can't get a test earlier than November.

And unfortunately in November I might be out of the country, so I won't be able to test it.

Im in same boat, Im moving abroad but because I cant get an nct done because of this 3 month rule, I'll be long gone, and car will only have 5 months nct on it. I would have loved to have gotten it nct'd now so i have 2 years on it. Shame.

Henry Ford III

CiniO wrote: »

...People seem to confuse valid NCT cert with car roadworthiness...

What is the function of the NCT then?

p.s. From NCT site.....

"Applus+ Car Testing Service Ltd, is responsible for the operation of the compulsory vehicle inspection programme in Ireland. This programme which falls under the directive 2009/40/EC is in its twelfth year of operation and its primary aim is to improve road safety and enhance environmental protection by reducing harmful vehicles emissions in Ireland."

CiniO

Henry Ford III wrote: »

What is the function of the NCT then?

Function of vehicle testing (pretty much anywhere in the world) is to make sure vehicles will be checked periodically for roadworthiness, which will increase a chance that those cars will be kept roadworthy.

But valid cert is not a proof of roadworthiness, and therefore shouldn't be cancelled when car is found not to be roadworthy.

There should be other systems in place to force people to fix their cars when found unroadworthy f.e. during road check.

ninty9er

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

When you think about it though it's not surprising in a country where you can do your driving test, fail, and still drive home after :rolleyes:

Only if accompanied by a fully licenced driver.