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Sour Grass

  • 12-08-2013 2:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭


    Anybody else having trouble with sour grass within the last week to 10 days?

    Had to move cattle on as they just plain refused to clean out the paddock so been out with the topper.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    49801 wrote: »
    Anybody else having trouble with sour grass within the last week to 10 days?

    Had to move cattle on as they just plain refused to clean out the paddock so been out with the topper.

    Are you talking about a complete paddock or just part. I have a few patches in a few fields that cattle refuse to clean out, rest of the paddock could turn to earth before they would eat it, right in the middle of fields aswell. If its a complete paddock a bit of sodium might be the answer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Are you talking about a complete paddock or just part. I have a few patches in a few fields that cattle refuse to clean out, rest of the paddock could turn to earth before they would eat it, right in the middle of fields aswell. If its a complete paddock a bit of sodium might be the answer

    Milling salt?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭restive


    What is meant by sodium or milling salt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    restive wrote: »
    What is meant by sodium or milling salt?

    just applying salt to sweeten the grass. I works for my dinner anyway


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭restive


    Where do you get the sodium? How much do you apply? Do you leave long before grazing?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    restive wrote: »
    Where do you get the sodium? How much do you apply? Do you leave long before grazing?

    You can get it in granular form if your luck, dont apply much as it can cause serious soil problems, around 100kgs ha if I remember correctly. I usually apply it for beet


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭restive


    Who manufactures it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,534 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Use some gouldings sweetgrass ,contains na mg and 23% n and 2.5 sulpher good stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭arais


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Use some gouldings sweetgrass ,contains na mg and 23% n and 2.5 sulpher good stuff

    totally agree, great for old pastures and cows milk very well off it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    We have one. Was wrapped last May and cows plain refused it this am. Moved them on and mowed it will wrap again tomorrow. It got slurry during dry weather so that's my problem.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    delaval wrote: »
    We have one. Was wrapped last May and cows plain refused it this am. Moved them on and mowed it will wrap again tomorrow. It got slurry during dry weather so that's my problem.

    I think it's universal that ground which receives slurry is not eaten by cows. Had mine on good grass 3 weeks ago which had received slurry 4 weeks before that. They roared for 3 days and mucked up around the gap. Sheep came in and ate it down. Cows going back on it this week - hopefully second growth after slurry will be more palatable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    reilig wrote: »
    I think it's universal that ground which receives slurry is not eaten by cows. Had mine on good grass 3 weeks ago which had received slurry 4 weeks before that. They roared for 3 days and mucked up around the gap. Sheep came in and ate it down. Cows going back on it this week - hopefully second growth after slurry will be more palatable.

    you lads just have sour slurry, I could graze cattle on my sweet slurry:) under 20 days. Have bullocks in front of the house grazing where slurry was applied 13 days previous and they are happy out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Lofty0990


    you lads just have sour slurry, I could graze cattle on my sweet slurry:) under 20 days. Have bullocks in front of the house grazing where slurry was applied 13 days previous and they are happy out

    And your are happy from a disease point of view to be grazing so soon after spreading slurry?

    Fair play to you .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    you lads just have sour slurry, I could graze cattle on my sweet slurry:) under 20 days. Have bullocks in front of the house grazing where slurry was applied 13 days previous and they are happy out
    How are they milking?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    delaval wrote: »
    We have one. Was wrapped last May and cows plain refused it this am. Moved them on and mowed it will wrap again tomorrow. It got slurry during dry weather so that's my problem.
    we had one on sunday:rolleyes: dry cows on it now, its not a mowable paddock and will top it then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭loveta


    Have had the same problem for the last few weeks started pre mowing the paddocks found a 12 hr wilt not much good but a 24-36hour wilt great they cleaned the paddocks right out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    Lofty0990 wrote: »
    And your are happy from a disease point of view to be grazing so soon after spreading slurry?

    Fair play to you .
    Thanks very much, Cant see disease pressure being any higher than allot of cattle in a field a couple of weeks previous, it was well washed in after spreading, so much so you wouldnt know it was applied and was all fresh slurry made in the last few weeks
    delaval wrote: »
    How are they milking?
    Have you ever graze stock after applying pig slurry? You will be surprised. They are buffer fed adlib so have the best of both worlds, if they choose to eat grass so be it, im not too worried aslong as they are eating there buffer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Thanks very much, Cant see disease pressure being any higher than allot of cattle in a field a couple of weeks previous, it was well washed in after spreading, so much so you wouldnt know it was applied and was all fresh slurry made in the last few weeks


    Have you ever graze stock after applying pig slurry? You will be surprised. They are buffer fed adlib so have the best of both worlds, if they choose to eat grass so be it, im not too worried aslong as they are eating there buffer.

    I'd be more into a fluffer than a buffer meself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭loveta


    delaval wrote: »
    I'd be more into a fluffer than a buffer meself

    Put a bit of urea on it see will it help


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 453 ✭✭caseman


    reilig wrote: »
    I think it's universal that ground which receives slurry is not eaten by cows. Had mine on good grass 3 weeks ago which had received slurry 4 weeks before that. They roared for 3 days and mucked up around the gap. Sheep came in and ate it down. Cows going back on it this week - hopefully second growth after slurry will be more palatable.

    No problem here with cows eating grass 4 weeks after slurry 1000 gal acre


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