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can primary school infant children stay in school until 3pm?

  • 11-08-2013 6:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2


    Hi,

    Im wondering if junior and senior infant children who get bus eireann transportation to school are entitled to stay in school until 3pm ( or until school is over) ?


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Not that I am aware of, infant day is shorter under DES results. Where would they stay, at any rate and who would supervise them?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    Not that I am aware of, infant day is shorter under DES rules. Where would they stay, at any rate and who would supervise them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 jdsb1983


    Thanks for your response. The issue is that these kids are transported to school by bus and therefore they have no choice but to wait until 3pm. What i question is if these childr e n have any right to remain in school until the bus collects them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭muckisluck


    No. Infant day is 1 hour shorter than rest of the school day. The school doesn't have personnel to provide supervision. The transport issue is the responsibility of CIE not the school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Gaeilgegodeo1


    jdsb1983 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Im wondering if junior and senior infant children who get bus eireann transportation to school are entitled to stay in school until 3pm ( or until school is over) ?

    Depends on the school. Some do it out of good will. However, due to lack of resources it is very rare. The children are not "entitled" to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 783 ✭✭✭afkasurfjunkie


    Their ticket 'entitles' them to travel on the bus. It does not 'entitle' them to what amounts to an hour of free child care in school.
    Perhaps arrange with a parent or somebody to pick them up after school and watch them until they get on the bus.

    Larger schools often provide after school care but this is rarely feasible in smaller rural schools.
    The class teacher will supervise pupils if' parents are running late or if an emergency arises but it is not his/her job supervise until 3, as there is preparation/photocopying/meetings to be done during that valuable hour.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    In our school ,there are some activities run for that hour, paid for by the parent, but we are lucky to have a spare room for this. Most schools wouldn't have the space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 216 ✭✭brónaim cád??


    We used to when we were in school. There was a few of us and we just used to sit in the class with one of the infant teachers. I think it is up to the discretion of the school and or teacher. I don't think they are obliged to though.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    It's not up to the discretion of the school/teacher -that presumes kids can and that the only obstacle is an unhelpful school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭kilco


    they are alowed in our school but I don't know if it's just goodwill


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,973 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    kilco wrote: »
    they are alowed in our school but I don't know if it's just goodwill

    I think there was always a lot of that in schools - but nowadays it certainly is disappearing.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    Talk to the school and see if they provide the service.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    I think there was always a lot of that in schools - but nowadays it certainly is disappearing.
    That would be due to things like the Croke Park deal where things like training teams, going to matches, sacraments, concerts, quizzes, extra meetings with parents/ HSE /OT etc. and other extracurricular activities don't count towards the Croke Park extra hours that teachers have always done on their own time. It's a slap in the face for those who had been putting extra- it's the DES saying "yeah ,so what ,these don't count"


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,973 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    That would be due to things like the Croke Park deal where things like training teams, going to matches, sacraments, concerts, quizzes, extra meetings with parents/ HSE /OT etc. and other extracurricular activities don't count towards the Croke Park extra hours that teachers have always done on their own time. It's a slap in the face for those who had been putting extra- it's the DES saying "yeah ,so what ,these don't count"

    Correct.


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