Tubs v Kenny on Friday Night Telly?!

mike65

Yup, TV3 are looking to land Pat the Plank to go head to head with the LLS.

Whatever about the appalling viewing choice vista this prompts, TV3 must have short memories, you go against the Late Late at your peril. Anyone who tries comes to grief and all evidence shows that Kenny is not the man for the job anyway.

His tenure of the RTE flagship only avoided sinking it thanks to the strength of the brand and the innate lethargy/conservatism of the public.

copacetic

Jeepers Mike, making a thread based on a Sindo headline and the usual made up story where TV3 never said anything like that?

For shame Mike, for shame!

Welsh Megaman

Should Pat head to TV3, a decent Friday night schedule could be...

9.30-10.30 Pat's 'Get The Misery Porn Out Of The Way' Current Affairs Show (making sure it starts just before the LLS, of course).

10.30-12.00 Time for Fun (remember fun on a Friday night?) - music, comedians, comedy sketches, general post-pub jollity.

JonathanAnon

Pat interviewing some British politician about his memoirs, followed by a banjo band and Paddy O'Gorman talking about the dole queues.. Tubridy fawning all over the latest contestant on I'm Not A Celebrity, I Barely Qualify As The Same Species ..... It truly will be a golden age in TV..

Conmaicne Mara

I wouldn't watch either on TV tbh. Plank is still way better than the stick insect though.

Pat certainly would blend in nicely with the beige background, at TV3.

Dman001

If TV3 do land Pat, it'll just about sum up Irish television at the moment and the pittance it has become. Note to RTE and TV3 - Irish television does not, and will not, revolve around Tubridy, Kenny, Brendan O'Connor, Vincent Browne, etc. Dont be afraid to nab some young Irish talent and give them ago. It'll even end up costing ye less.

BuilderPlumber

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I wouldn't watch either on TV tbh. Plank is still way better than the stick insect though.

Pat Kenny is good when he has the right material. Tubridy is too silly and the Late Late Show has disimproved under his tenure for sure. However, it is rather ironic that 2009 marked a disimprovement in shows for both: Kenny left the Late Late and did The Frontline, which was one of the worst negative depressing talkshows ever on TV (more often than not it was a noisy circus with politicians carping at each other and it focused almost entirely on all that banking/corruption/bailout shyt and gave no hope); Tubridy's Late Late was a disimprovement on his previous Saturday Show as well.

But are they much of a difference between the two and the Late Late? Yes and no. Largely, the same source of guests has persisted across both Kenny's and Tubridy's reign with Boyzone, Westlife, Twink, etc. all predominating. Kenny would also have dealt with Jedward and others like that, so it would have more or less continued on the same. Tubridy brought in more airhead celebs and Kenny had more discussion. Both got bogged down way too much with the same guests. As the below shows:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late_Late_Show_(season_46)

Still and all, this season was way stronger than the one just gone which was the worst ever!

Conmaicne Mara

I dunno, Pat always struck me on TV as someone who couldn't think on his feet. Too much fumbling with his Q cards, and pressing to move on when a guest would catch him unawares. Maybe it's because I don't see that on radio I find him a huge amount better on that medium. He just seems a lot more able when interviewing people then, still the odd gaff but nothing like the impression he makes to me on the telly.

Tubridy, no, just no. If he has to be on TV in Ireland then stick him on TV3 where I can't see him please.

I do agree both presenters often had complete dross as guests. Also the Frontline more often than not just descended into a shouting match. Had a couple of topics on it that I was fairly interested in and to be honest they were utter junk. Possibly a big factor in that was the audience weighting, miniscule interest groups having as much speaking/interrupting/arguing time as far larger sections of society who possibly held differing views. Policies like that keep the squeaky wheel brigade in business, unfortunately.

BuilderPlumber

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

I dunno, Pat always struck me on TV as someone who couldn't think on his feet. Too much fumbling with his Q cards, and pressing to move on when a guest would catch him unawares. Maybe it's because I don't see that on radio I find him a huge amount better on that medium. He just seems a lot more able when interviewing people then, still the odd gaff but nothing like the impression he makes to me on the telly.

Tubridy, no, just no. If he has to be on TV in Ireland then stick him on TV3 where I can't see him please.

I do agree both presenters often had complete dross as guests. Also the Frontline more often than not just descended into a shouting match. Had a couple of topics on it that I was fairly interested in and to be honest they were utter junk. Possibly a big factor in that was the audience weighting, miniscule interest groups having as much speaking/interrupting/arguing time as far larger sections of society who possibly held differing views. Policies like that keep the squeaky wheel brigade in business, unfortunately.

I think they all rely too much on Q cards and the like on TV in Ireland. Surely, it could run more freely? Surely, they'd know what to ask anyway? I agree Pat is a lot better on radio. Tubridy comes across the same on both!

Still, I agree Pat is better than Tubridy a lot. Look at Tubridy's lack of control of an obviously drugged up Cuba Gooding? Or look at his childish embarrassing interview of Nigella Lawson where he said can I bake you a cake or something and kept on and on about it. Or how about his over the top idolatry over the likes of Westlife?

The Frontline was painful dross that was narrow and focused too much on this corruption/banking/recession stuff (it was always about this apart from maybe a few episodes). True, it was a platform for a lot of would be bookwriters, politicians and economists to launch their careers and voice their views. Some of its more memorable episodes include the one where a disso jinto republican attacks Pat Kenny about his salary, where some bore i can't remember tells Pat his house is a trophy and Pat gets annoyed, and the time where Pat gets Sinead O'Connor to sing! Other than that, very little out of the ordinary.

The Late Late Show v a new Pat Kenny chatshow should be interesting. Like the Eamonn Dunphy show showed before, maybe the Late Late is too big to challenge even by Kenny but it will mean Tubridy will have to make more of an effort (which he can do when he wants to: his first 2 seasons were not too bad compared to the drivel he gave us for most of last season).

expectationlost

more corrie stars

Lapin

expectationlost wrote: »

more corrie stars

They'd want to book them quick.

Before they're all suspended.

Ol' Donie

It would cause havoc on the LLS thread, for one thing.

I'd be in favour, if it meant more Twink. She could be the first guest with Tubs, then fly (on her broomstick, presumably) over to Ballymount for a decent chinwag with Pat.

World needs more Twink.

amdublin

Ah Pat was gas - so straight laced and then going all mental and ripping up tickets left right and centre

BuilderPlumber

Ol' Donie wrote: »

It would cause havoc on the LLS thread, for one thing.

I'd be in favour, if it meant more Twink. She could be the first guest with Tubs, then fly (on her broomstick, presumably) over to Ballymount for a decent chinwag with Pat.

World needs more Twink.

Twink twice in the one night? Can't wait!!

BuilderPlumber

amdublin wrote: »

Ah Pat was gas - so straight laced and then going all mental and ripping up tickets left right and centre

That was one of the bizarre moments of PKLLS. Another was the time this self styled republican nutter came up and attacked him and badmouthed Gay Byrne as well.

grey_so_what

If it did happen...........Like Eamonn tried to do?........

I'd love one of those fancy telly's that you can watch two stations at once........

God help my curiosity......:D

amdublin

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

That was one of the bizarre moments of PKLLS. Another was the time this self styled republican nutter came up and attacked him and badmouthed Gay Byrne as well.

Ah that poor man who did that was not well at all. I believe he took his own life a few years later.

BlaasForRafa

amdublin wrote: »

Ah that poor man who did that was not well at all. I believe he took his own life a few years later.

Didn't the same fella crash his car into the rte lobby another time?

amdublin

Yes that was him. He had a vendetta against rte I think. Not well as I said

BuilderPlumber

amdublin wrote: »

Ah that poor man who did that was not well at all. I believe he took his own life a few years later.

That's true. He was however the first in a series of people to have a go at Pat. 2 years later, a woman who won tickets to the toy show said she was not interested in the tickets. And on the first season of The Frontline (and one of its few memorable moments), a raging bull of a man attacked Pat over his salary and could not be shut up no matter what. Also on the same show, some bore I can't remember noted Pat's house was a trophy house whatever that means!