Looking for new road bike

Tintown

First post here but new to cycling getting new bike in next couple weeks thinking of getting the ridley Orion 105 my budget will be 1500€ I would have bit more but preferably I'd like to keep extra money for the accessories ie pedals, shoes cleats helmet etc etc any suggestions greatly appreciated

Carpenter

Yes buy 2th hand

Buzwaldo

Carpenter wrote: »

Yes buy 2th hand

That's the advice usually given to somebody with a budget of 500, but surely he could get something decent for 1500? Even get entry level carbon at that?
Lots of threads on best value bike for x euros.
You need to decide LBS vs online. Entry level carbon vs good alloy bike with more going into components. Lots of decisions which only you can make.
Search the web, this forum, bikeradar, ask friends who are cyclists.
Get a bike which you like and get out on it. Have fun.

Sarz91

Tintown wrote: »

First post here but new to cycling getting new bike in next couple weeks thinking of getting the ridley Orion 105 my budget will be 1500€ I would have bit more but preferably I'd like to keep extra money for the accessories ie pedals, shoes cleats helmet etc etc any suggestions greatly appreciated

Are you sure you wanna sped that amount on a sport you haven't really tried? It's a pretty big commitment. Do you have any intentions to race or is it to just get out on the bike and do events like the Wicklow 200 etc.

If you're dead set on spending a decent amount of money on a bike Id look at something like this. You choose groupset etc and they build it for you. Fantastic frames and great service. Have bought a full bike and ordered a frame from them recently.

Tintown

Buzwaldo wrote: »

That's the advice usually given to somebody with a budget of 500, but surely he could get something decent for 1500? Even get entry level carbon at that?
Lots of threads on best value bike for x euros.
You need to decide LBS vs online. Entry level carbon vs good alloy bike with more going into components. Lots of decisions which only you can make.
Search the web, this forum, bikeradar, ask friends who are cyclists.
Get a bike which you like and get out on it. Have fun.

Thanks for reply ,, Ill probally buy from buckleys in tullamore it's a lot of info to try decipher on these bikes some have pros some have cons thinking more to aluminium frame cause currently I'm 240lbs but that will drop to 215 with in a month of dieting and training,, so I won't have money to upgrade for year or two

Tintown

Sarz91 wrote: »

Are you sure you wanna sped that amount on a sport you haven't really tried? It's a pretty big commitment. Do you have any intentions to race or is it to just get out on the bike and do events like the Wicklow 200 etc.

If you're dead set on spending a decent amount of money on a bike Id look at something like this. You choose groupset etc and they build it for you. Fantastic frames and great service. Have bought a full bike and ordered a frame from them recently.

On that website now think that's the way I might go thanks for the link

Sarz91

Tintown wrote: »

On that website now think that's the way I might go thanks for the link

Do you know what frame size you are? It'd probably be best to get measured for a frame first before buying.

Bigus

Drop up to these lads in athlone http://planetxireland.com/

at least you'll get to try out the bike for size and feel

Buzwaldo

That Orion looks good value for that money - have seen a few around, and they look the business, but not that common so you don't feel one of the herd. Despite the 'value' that can be got online, it's worth a bit to be able to go into a shop, try it for size on a turbo trainer, get fitted, develop a bit of a relationship with your LBS, and usually can get a bit of discount on extras, pedals etc.
(Honest, I don't work for Buckleys)
Edit - just saw other posts (was away from computer while posting this)
Decisions, Decisions, Decisions!!!!

Tintown

Buzwaldo wrote: »

That Orion looks good value for that money - have seen a few around, and they look the business, but not that common so you don't feel one of the herd. Despite the 'value' that can be got online, it's worth a bit to be able to go into a shop, try it for size on a turbo trainer, get fitted, develop a bit of a relationship with your LBS, and usually can get a bit of discount on extras, pedals etc.
(Honest, I don't work for Buckleys)
Edit - just saw other posts (was away from computer while posting this)
Decisions, Decisions, Decisions!!!!

It's a very difficult decision hopefully ill get to buckleys next week to look/buy a bike the uncle does a lot of cycling and he only deals with buckleys so ill go with him for some guidance he rates the ridley he has the Noah I think, what's the minimum group set you'd go for sora, tiagra, 105 etc etc

MajesticDonkey

Tintown wrote: »

It's a very difficult decision hopefully ill get to buckleys next week to look/buy a bike the uncle does a lot of cycling and he only deals with buckleys so ill go with him for some guidance he rates the ridley he has the Noah I think, what's the minimum group set you'd go for sora, tiagra, 105 etc etc

I think for €1500 you'd be better off get a top-end alu frame and a 105 groupset. The only problem with doing that is upgrading in the future.

Buzwaldo

Tintown wrote: »

It's a very difficult decision hopefully ill get to buckleys next week to look/buy a bike the uncle does a lot of cycling and he only deals with buckleys so ill go with him for some guidance he rates the ridley he has the Noah I think, what's the minimum group set you'd go for sora, tiagra, 105 etc etc

As a relative novice (2 years), I might not be qualified to advise on this, but from what I know and from parroting some of the reliable guys here, I believe the new tiagra is now 10 speed (was 9 speed before) and as good as older 105. Will be slightly heavier but that will only be a few grams. So 10 speed tiagra at least for that budget.

Tintown

Buzwaldo wrote: »

As a relative novice (2 years), I might not be qualified to advise on this, but from what I know and from parroting some of the reliable guys here, I believe the new tiagra is now 10 speed (was 9 speed before) and as good as older 105. Will be slightly heavier but that will only be a few grams. So 10 speed tiagra at least for that budget.

what do you think of this bike http://http://www.buckleycycles.ie/ridley%20icarus%20sls%202012.html

seems good value at the price

Tintown

MajesticDonkey wrote: »

I think for €1500 you'd be better off get a top-end alu frame and a 105 groupset. The only problem with doing that is upgrading in the future.

what i thinking of doing is keeping a aluminium bike for winter and after year or 2 ill invest in carbon bike

Roger Hassenforder

Tintown wrote: »

what do you think of this bike http://http://www.buckleycycles.ie/ridley%20icarus%20sls%202012.html

seems good value at the price

link doesnt work. is it the Ridley Orion 105 @ 1599?
nice bike
if your carrying the groceries, look for at least a 28 (11-28) on your cassette.

Tintown

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

link doesnt work. is it the Ridley Orion 105 @ 1599?
nice bike
if your carrying the groceries, look for at least a 28 (11-28) on your cassette.

It's the ridley Icarus sls with 105 shimano that's the aluminium bike I'd be thinking of going for €1299 and frame is only 200g heavier than carbon fibre Orion

Roger Hassenforder

Tintown wrote: »

It's the ridley Icarus sls with 105 shimano that's the aluminium bike I'd be thinking of going for €1299 and frame is only 200g heavier than carbon fibre Orion

not to get hung up on weight (at over 100kg), but the bike difference is 500g?
for the pure snobbery element I'd try and rise to the Orion, & it might save you having to upgrade in a few months!!
get him to change the 12-25 to a 11-28 (you'll thank me!)

Tintown

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

not to get hung up on weight (at over 100kg), but the bike difference is 500g?
for the pure snobbery element I'd try and rise to the Orion, & it might save you having to upgrade in a few months!!
get him to change the 12-25 to a 11-28 (you'll thank me!)

What's the strength like in carbon frames I was looking durianrider on YouTube and I sort of pick up from him that any crash will snap it up then others are saying its stronger than steel confused is an understatement

billyhead

Theres a cannondale caad 10 (compact 105) for sale on Evans cycles website for €1400 (highly recommended according to other users)

Brian?

Tintown wrote: »

What's the strength like in carbon frames I was looking durianrider on YouTube and I sort of pick up from him that any crash will snap it up then others are saying its stronger than steel confused is an understatement

Carbon is extremely strong, if you spend your time worrying about crashing you'll never cycle .

If I was you, I'd go with the Orion once it's in your budget. A fine looking bike.

Cee-Jay-Cee

The Icarus is last years bike (or even 2011) they dont feature in Ridleys 2013 line-up.

Tintown

CJC999 wrote: »

The Icarus is last years bike (or even 2011) they dont feature in Ridleys 2013 line-up.

I don't know I'm literally very new to this but only after been on Ridleys website they have it there under 2013 line up the ridley Icarus summer bike

Tintown

If I buy bike for 1400€ or there abouts should I expect voucher for shop or discount on accessories I sort of want to get all kit in the same shop the same day and want to know what to expect,, maybe if you share your past experiences

Tonyandthewhale

Carbon is plenty strong, it's not going to break any quicker than aluminium. The problem is it can be hard to tell when carbon is broken so if you have a bad crash it might seem fine but you could have a hairline crack which develops and then you're in trouble. Any frame can break or crack after a crash though but sudden catastrophic frame failures are very rare and not something I worry about despite spending untold hours on various bikes damn near every year of my life.

When choosing between alu and carbon don't think about which one is going to break because you shouldn't be planning crashes anyway. Think about your priorities in terms of ride quality and components and where you can get most bang for your buck.

Roger Hassenforder

Tintown wrote: »

If I buy bike for 1400€ or there abouts should I expect voucher for shop or discount on accessories I sort of want to get all kit in the same shop the same day and want to know what to expect,, maybe if you share your past experiences

Id spend as much as I can on the bike and the best padded shorts I could afford. Get your accessories in lidl/aldi to start u off, and replace as you go along. This time next year, you'll probably be giving stuff away to buddies startin off.