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Moving back home to Ireland from UK - working for UK plc.

  • 09-08-2013 11:08am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone know what I need to do to pay my taxes here in Ireland while still working for a UK company that has no Irish office? The CFO of the company said I should make a company here in Ireland and they would invoice that company but they are also going to pay me all my due holidays which is worrying me as it sounds like I'm no longer a permanent employee.

    Is there an easier way for me to be clean with the revenue here?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭brrabus


    You are correct in thinking that you would no longer be a permanent employee and additionally you would responsible to pay all taxes including PRSI (as a self-employed individual you would be a Class S regardless if you set up a Ltd Company or not). Additionally, depending on your earning you would be required to register for VAT but this is cross border invoicing so a little be more complicated than invoicing an Irish Company but this varies depending on your activities. You really need to seek professional advice on this from a tax specialist. Also you would need to familarise yourself on payment of preliminary tax.

    The company may say that they will give you a contract to say that this is only for a certain time period and you job is secure to which you would need to seek legal advice but in general these are not worth the paper they are written on unless (and there are no guarantees) totally legal binding with forfeiture clauses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    Thank you very much for your reply brrabus, it was very helpful. I decided to call the Revenue about this issue and they didn't seem to know how to handle the situation but they said they'd call me back.

    They've just called me back and said that I could get the company I work for not to tax me in the UK and that I would need to fill out a self assessment form at the end of the year in Ireland and pay my taxes then.

    This looks like a better approach, I'm sure I'll pay more taxes but I think it sounds the least painful/safest approach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭brrabus


    Thank you very much for your reply brrabus, it was very helpful. I decided to call the Revenue about this issue and they didn't seem to know how to handle the situation but they said they'd call me back.

    They've just called me back and said that I could get the company I work for not to tax me in the UK and that I would need to fill out a self assessment form at the end of the year in Ireland and pay my taxes then.

    This looks like a better approach, I'm sure I'll pay more taxes but I think it sounds the least painful/safest approach.

    This would probably make your income Case I/II which is self employed. Don't rely on the Revenue to give you advice on this, they do not give advice and are not qualified or in a position to do so. You have a number of issues, one being your employment with the company and the other which contains a number of issues is your tax status and whether you are established correctly for all taxes and this is not just Income Tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭dbran


    Hi

    Where is the work carried out or the duties of employment exercised. What does it say in your contract of employment.

    dbran


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,334 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    Sorry for the delay in replying; things have been somewhat hectic of late for me, thank you for all your replies. Even if they are worrying me a bit :)

    @brrabus

    Well my only source of income are my wages. So I'm not really worried about other tax liabilities.

    Whom exactly would be in a position to offer advice? Some sort of citizens advice office or tax specialist?

    When the Revenue phoned me back they said I would have to register with them before I could complete any self assessment forms so I would imagine any issues would be raised by them upon my registration?

    @dbran

    I would work in Ireland, remoting in to my London office. I'm not even sure where my contract is, I will have to dig it up and see if it says anything relevant.

    The revenue did respond to me with a TR1 form and a guide to self assessment.

    Foreign income is highlighted on the front page, so I guess the Revenue think my wages can be classed as foreign income?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭brrabus


    Sorry for the delay in replying; things have been somewhat hectic of late for me, thank you for all your replies. Even if they are worrying me a bit :)

    @brrabus

    Well my only source of income are my wages. So I'm not really worried about other tax liabilities.

    Whom exactly would be in a position to offer advice? Some sort of citizens advice office or tax specialist?

    When the Revenue phoned me back they said I would have to register with them before I could complete any self assessment forms so I would imagine any issues would be raised by them upon my registration?

    @dbran

    I would work in Ireland, remoting in to my London office. I'm not even sure where my contract is, I will have to dig it up and see if it says anything relevant.

    The revenue did respond to me with a TR1 form and a guide to self assessment.

    Foreign income is highlighted on the front page, so I guess the Revenue think my wages can be classed as foreign income?

    Revenue will not give you advice on what you need to know. You say that your only form of income is your wages but if you are self employed it is not wages in the way you are thinking, ie setting up your own company and invoicing them then you need to know do you have to register for VAT, this will be dependent on your level of income and also the type of work that you are doing. You also have to get your head around how tax is paid under self assessment, eg Preliminary Tax, etc. You will not get that advice from any Citizen Board, you need to go to a good accountant or tax advisor, particularly one who knows all about setting up companies. Have you decided if you are going Limited or not, for example. I have no idea on what type of industry you are in nor what your earning are going to be so have to be vague on this. Even if I did, you need to get all this info before you decide what avenue you are going to take. If you live in this country and are invoicing from this country it is not foreign income, even if it is coming from a foreign company but this obviously depends on how long you live here for. There are no simple answers or straighforward answers as it is all very vague. Lots of if's and but's.


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