Handheld speed camera

markoire

Hey guys, was on the way to work this morning and noticed the cops had a handheld speed gun pointed out their squad car window.. Does anybody know if they have to pull somebody over on the spot or can they issue points from a photograph taken on the handheld device?! Thanks, Mark.

Anan1

I'm pretty sure that's a speed gun rather than a camera - ie they have to pull you.

Hateart

They will come out after you so all ok if they stayed hiding. Not a camera anyway.

markoire

Thanks folks, was wondering could they photograph with that thing!!

doughef

Sorry to open this again.

Did you get a fine?

same hapened to me today. I was doing approx 130kph on the M8. Spotted a Garda car and slowed down but I'd say he got me.
He was sitting in the car with his camera.

A colleague in my car said they have to pull you over to issue a fine?
They didnt but I'm wondering if I will get one in the post?

air

doughef wrote: »

Sorry to open this again.

Did you get a fine?

same hapened to me today. I was doing approx 130kph on the M8. Spotted a Garda car and slowed down but I'd say he got me.
He was sitting in the car with his camera.

A colleague in my car said they have to pull you over to issue a fine?
They didnt but I'm wondering if I will get one in the post?

1.At an indicated 130 kph you're not likely to have been doing much over 122/123 kph
2. It's not a camera
=> You're fine

doughef

air wrote: »

1.At an indicated 130 kph you're not likely to have been doing much over 122/123 kph
2. It's not a camera
=> You're fine

Thanks.. Hope so!!

markoire

No fine for me so far anyway, as everyone has said, its not actually a camera. Once he didn't chase you and pull you over you're fine!!

mike2084

I passed one of these up on a tripod this morning - I think I was 1 kph according to my sat nav it was last minute when I saw it. Am I caught?

air

mike2084 wrote: »

I passed one of these up on a tripod this morning - I think I was 1 kph according to my sat nav it was last minute when I saw it. Am I caught?

I'd say the SWAT team are circling you right now.

mike2084

air wrote: »

I'd say the SWAT team are circling you right now.

Might sound trivial but I've never got points and don't want to start now

bazzachazza

mike2084 wrote: »

I passed one of these up on a tripod this morning - I think I was 1 kph according to my sat nav it was last minute when I saw it. Am I caught?

Straight to mountjoy ! But if you pay me €1000 I can get that sorted for you and you'll hear no more about it ;-) ;-)

bazzachazza

mike2084 wrote: »

Might sound trivial but I've never got points and don't want to start now

Not a hope you were done not a hope. If they start doing people for being .6 of a mile per hour over a limit then we are all farked.

mike2084

bazzachazza wrote: »

Not a hope you were done not a hope. If they start doing people for being .6 of a mile per hour over a limit then we are all farked.

Hopefully, I'm normally pretty careful so just annoyed with myself more than anything.

britie

How do they prove it was you doing the speed on the gun? With the Gatso's and other camera devices there is photographic proof. Is it gps and time stamped?

_Kaiser_

britie wrote: »

How do they prove it was you doing the speed on the gun? With the Gatso's and other camera devices there is photographic proof. Is it gps and time stamped?

"I saw you do it" is all that's needed in this country :rolleyes:

pa990

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

"I saw you do it" is all that's needed in this country :rolleyes:

You would be referring to a witness. ..

That's how Courts work.

Witness states what they saw' and judge decides.

That's democracy at work , perhaps you know of how police in other countries operate hand held speed guns.

_Kaiser_

pa990 wrote: »

You would be referring to a witness. ..

That's how Courts work.

Witness states what they saw' and judge decides.

That's democracy at work , perhaps you know of how police in other countries operate hand held speed guns.

Alas "democracy" in this context is heavily biased on the word of a representative of an organisation shown time and again to be fundamentally flawed (money going missing from evidence, penalty points write-offs and so on).

When the Gardai start to take their responsibilities and duties seriously as an organisation (I'm fully aware there are individuals who do of course!) then maybe I'd have more respect for their credibility.

Oh and incidentally, no penalty points, never been done for speeding etc, but I've had enough direct experience with our boys n girls in blue over the years that unfortunately meeting a decent one is the exception rather than the norm - but I'm fully aware that the apologists/fanboys that inhabit these forums will dismiss anyone who doesn't agree as having a chip etc.

Personally however I think it's a danger to democracy when we stop questioning and challenging those "in charge" - especially when we're given cause time and again to do so.

pa990

Kaiser2000 wrote: »

Alas "democracy" in this context is heavily biased on the word of a representative of an organisation ...........

and again.. how does this differ to other police forces using hand held speed guns?



all police forces have similar fundamental flaws

pa990

going a bit OT,

but worth a read.

appears to state that Ireland is somewhere in the top 20 of least corrupt

Among the least corrupt nations, the United States has slipped to No. 20 this year from No. 17 last year, while France, Belgium, Ireland and Japan leap-frogged over the U.S. in the rankings. The top 10–the world’s least corrupt countries–has remained virtually unchanged with Finland, Iceland and New Zealand tied for the lead, followed closely by Denmark, Singapore and Sweden.

http://www.forbes.com/2007/04/03/corruption-countries-nations-biz-07caphosp-cx_da_0403corrupt.html