Tallaght in freefall

photofinish

For those of you who don't know Tallaght Cross was a retail office and Apartment complex almost turning Tallaght into a city well that was the plan.:rolleyes:
Very few Irish people and even fewer Tallaght people got jobs building it and now it stands empty and in the hands of NAMA for the most part.

There were two hotels now gone a Gym and pool now gone Marks and Spencers and Captian Americas now also gone leaving the entire area empty.
Most retail units were never occupied or even finished.

Tallaght has also had more then it's fair share of immigrants who seem to get houses but never seem to find a job.
What is the thinking that goes into putting unskilled immigrants into an unemployment black spot?
Tallaght has more then it's fair share of junkies and scumbags who never seem to get locked up.
Tallaght only has one decent Restaurant left for an area with a population of over 71,000.
There are over 1,000 empty Apartments standing idol.

Greedy property developers have wasted hundreds of millions in Tallaght on white elepent projects that have given no jobs to the people of Tallaght and are now part of the national debt.

I seen another thread saying that there was no real recession maybe that is true for Foxrock and areas on the Luas green line but it getting much worse in areas like Tallaght.

Tipsy McSwagger

Well ye still have Tallafornia.

listermint

If you didnt know the entire development was bought by the Comer Group a group owned by two brothers from Galway.

This deal was signed off this year and they are in the progress of completing the incompleted apartments.

I would imagine they are on top of trying to attract anchor tenants. There is actually a need for a good hotel in Tallaght as there is a market for it.

wazky

photofinish wrote: »

Tallaght only has one decent Restaurant left for an area with a population of over 71,000.

Last time I was there Tallaght had a Mcdonalds AND a Burger King!?

Mr.Crinklewood

photofinish wrote: »

For those of you who don't know Tallaght Cross was a retail office and Apartment complex almost turning Tallaght into a city well that was the plan.:rolleyes:
Very few Irish people and even fewer Tallaght people got jobs building it and now it stands empty and in the hands of NAMA for the most part.

There were two hotels now gone a Gym and pool now gone Marks and Spencers and Captian Americas now also gone leaving the entire area empty.
Most retail units were never occupied or even finished.

Tallaght has also had more then it's fair share of immigrants who seem to get houses but never seem to find a job.
What is the thinking that goes into putting unskilled immigrants into an unemployment black spot?
Tallaght has more then it's fair share of junkies and scumbags who never seem to get locked up.
Tallaght only has one decent Restaurant left for an area with a population of over 71,000.
There are over 1,000 empty Apartments standing idol.

Greedy property developers have wasted hundreds of millions in Tallaght on white elepent projects that have given no jobs to the people of Tallaght and are now part of the national debt.

I seen another thread saying that there was no real recession maybe that is true for Foxrock and areas on the Luas green line but it getting much worse in areas like Tallaght.

Could explain the tenants position in the league.

Banjo String

Tallaght.

lived in it for 4 years and I loved it.

Sure it has its "rough spots".

Name me one place in Ireland with a similar population that doesn't though?

listermint

Link for you perusal


http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/ireland/article1251706.ece

Nodin

photofinish wrote: »

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Tallaght has also had more then it's fair share of immigrants who seem to get houses but never seem to find a job.
What is the thinking that goes into putting unskilled immigrants into an unemployment black spot?
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How do you know these immigrants (a) never have a job and (b) are unskilled?

photofinish

listermint wrote: »

There is actually a need for a good hotel in Tallaght as there is a market for it.

I am from Tallaght and I can say who in their right mind would book a Hotel to stay in Tallaght?

Tourists?
International businessmen?

Nodin

photofinish wrote: »

I am from Tallaght and I can say who in their right mind would book a Hotel to stay in Tallaght?

Tourists?
International businessmen?

...hotels were built to avail of a tax break.

bnt

We've got to take off and nuke the place from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

FatherLen

I am in one of the 'empty' apartment blocks right now. Some of what op has said has been exaggerated to make his point.

listermint

photofinish wrote: »

I am from Tallaght and I can say who in their right mind would book a Hotel to stay in Tallaght?

Tourists?
International businessmen?

Your obviously completely inept with what you are discussing because of the 3 hotels that are there they have quite a large and regular custom. This is a fact.

The quality of all the hotels is questionable tbh as our multinational has stopped using one of them down to service related problems.

But a well serviced 48 bed would have no issue being filled.


Back over to you sir..

Banjo String

photofinish wrote: »

I am from Tallaght and I can say who in their right mind would book a Hotel to stay in Tallaght?

Tourists?
International businessmen?

Erm.

Someone whom had business in the D24 area?

A tourist whom wanted a hub to explore Dublin and the Wicklow/Dublin mountains?

Jesus have some pride in the place you reside in.

P_1

photofinish wrote: »

I am from Tallaght and I can say who in their right mind would book a Hotel to stay in Tallaght?

Tourists?
International businessmen?

That's one thing that always confused me with the massive building spree during the boom, why so many hotels in non-tourist/airport areas. I mean there's only so many business conferences and weddings that you can have

listermint

SamHall wrote: »

Erm.

Someone whom had business in the D24 area?

A tourist whom wanted a hub to explore Dublin and the Wicklow/Dublin mountains?

Jesus have some pride in the place you reside in.

Comes across as a clueless rant tbf. OP did you research your post before you started ?

photofinish

Nodin wrote: »

How do you know these immigrants (a) never have a job and (b) are unskilled?

Loads of Women with loads of children.
The last thing we need is large family's of young kids in an unemployment black spot Tallaght had plenty of that already.

listermint

P_1 wrote: »

That's one thing that always confused me with the massive building spree during the boom, why so many hotels in non-tourist/airport areas. I mean there's only so many business conferences and weddings that you can have

Tough work getting a new hotel room in central dublin for ~75 a night. Or you could be on the luas line with M50 transport connections..

I think the choice is fairly obvious and is taken based on the custom that they receive.

dirtyden

photofinish wrote: »

Loads of Women with loads of children.
The last thing we need is large family's of young kids in an unemployment black spot Tallaght had plenty of that already.

Do you drive a taxi?

listermint

photofinish wrote: »

Loads of Women with loads of children.
The last thing we need is large family's of young kids in an unemployment black spot Tallaght had plenty of that already.

I have a shovel here you can borrow. I bought it in Woodies, theyre beside rovers.

Gatling

Its a shame to see actually ,parts of area is just a hang out for what seems half the junkie population of Dublin ,
Theres a lot of potential there ,
Wonder would it make sense as part of the square town centre extension

FatherLen

photofinish wrote: »

Loads of Women with loads of children.
The last thing we need is large family's of young kids in an unemployment black spot Tallaght had plenty of that already.

Jesus, you're actually just talking through your arse now.

listermint

Gatling wrote: »

Its a shame to see actually ,parts of area is just a hang out for what seems half the junkie population of Dublin ,
Theres a lot of potential there ,
Wonder would it make sense as part of the square town centre extension

Needs an anchor tenant to pull traffic into the area, e,g. Pennys for instance

P_1

listermint wrote: »

Tough work getting a new hotel room in central dublin for ~75 a night. Or you could be on the luas line with M50 transport connections..

I think the choice is fairly obvious and is taken based on the custom that they receive.

True fair point, to be honest I was thinking more of the likes of the hotel in the middle of nowhere by the M1 than hotels in Tallaght

photofinish

FatherLen wrote: »

Jesus, you're actually just talking through your arse now.

How so?
The schools are full and so is the social welfare office.

Kids grow up fast and the area had just lost another 90 jobs this week.

wazky

photofinish wrote: »

How so?
The schools are full and so is the social welfare office.

Kids grow up fast and the area had just lost another 90 jobs this week.

So declare open season on women and children is it?

GerardKeating

wazky wrote: »

Last time I was there Tallaght had a Mcdonalds AND a Burger King!?

Is there not also a KFC and an Eddie Rockets?

listermint

photofinish wrote: »

How so?
The schools are full and so is the social welfare office.

Kids grow up fast and the area had just lost another 90 jobs this week.

So what are you going to do about it PH ? Realistically speaking that section has some small units and is screaming out for a well managed and functional cafe to properly service the hospital and the surrounding business. Something with a bit of atmosphere and perhaps good coffee.

of you jaunt.

fussyonion

I'm from Tallaght and I think it's terrible how all those apartment/retail outlets have stayed empty for so long.

The two hotels, Glashaus and I forget the other, didn't stay open very long, did they?

The Square actually seems to have picked up trade in the last year or so, according to a few reports I read. More retailers are seeking units to rent and that's great.

Awful shame about M&S closing but I never understood how they could have done well; highly overpriced stuff.

Anyway, I think Tallaght has the potential to grow into a diverse, exciting and vibrant place.

We do need more restaurants though...and Penney's would be a big coup if they came. They were meant to take the IMC's venue but apparently it wasn't suitable.

I'm proud of being from Tallaght and I sincerely hope the area gets the boost it needs.

danniemcq

enough of the silliness, try here