Massey ferguson 3000 series

MFdaveIreland

Does anyone have any experience on the mf 3000 series. I'm not looking for one , but have noticed a few on done deal, eg 3125, 3120 3095. I was thinking that a older 6 cylinder ticking over wud be easier on juice than a 3 or 4 cylinder working harder, or am I wrong .

MFdaveIreland

Does anyone have any experience on the mf 3000 series. I'm not looking for one , but have noticed a few on done deal, eg 3125, 3120 3095. I was thinking that a older 6 cylinder ticking over wud be easier on juice than a 3 or 4 cylinder working harder, or am I wrong .

crackcrack30

I know they can be got a good deal cheaper than other series......what work do u have in mind for it?

MFdaveIreland

Yes, i have noticed that they are slowly reducing in value. Just wondering was there a catch with them. Have 2 MF 165s, but will possibly need something in the future fit to lift and transport silage bales, possibly slurry spreading. Not a major neccessity , but i would imagine that heavy silage bales will be doing a bit of damage to a mf 165, and was thinking of possibly changing sometime to something more powerful as reasonable money. I was thinking that would it be possible to have overkill regards power and size rather than strugglin with a small machine.

himwdah

i was once afraid of them but have no fear of them now after a 3125 which is now replaced with a 6180, good value for the spec. however i have learned that they dont like sitting up over the winter as some of the connections get corroded and can be a pain to find, if u go ahead with it make sure u have a house for it and get a dynashift if u can.

MFdaveIreland

himwdah wrote: »

i was once afraid of them but have no fear of them now after a 3125 which is now replaced with a 6180, good value for the spec. however i have learned that they dont like sitting up over the winter as some of the connections get corroded and can be a pain to find, if u go ahead with it make sure u have a house for it and get a dynashift if u can.

What were u using yours for,was it hard on diesel and did it give much trouble,

himwdah

3125 was no problem after the brakes were done on the second day we had it, cauught in time. would still be here if a van driver could drive- wrote off. closet to replace the 3125 was a 6180, no probs really with 7500hrs, 2500 which r us, only thing is the shuttle is getting new scyros tomorrw, but i would expect that as it was our general yard tractor, and used for road work, roundbaling(3-4000 bales year), mowing, harvester, discing, slurry mixing and drawing, drawing silage, hedgecuting, etc same with 3125 but it only had 12000hrs on it when we bought it:rolleyes:, needed the hp as 399 wasnt on top of the job. would deffinatly have another 3125 possibly before a 6180, but both good, have had small wiring faulst with the 3125 being parked up outside the first winter-damp and corrosion, but not when we decided to use it for all yard work which means at least 800hrs a year.

the 6180 is getting the gearbox fixed as we have no plans to replace it as there is nothing id rather bale or mow with most of the time, valmet nicer on mower but normally bros and dad tractor, mine is 6180 for baling, hrs arent much of an issue it seems i i dont worry much about them with the dyna gearbox.

only three tractor on our yard to stay, valmet, mf 6180 and mf390, irreplacable by anything newer.

nashmach

Probably two key considerations.

Have you a good MF mechanic/dealer nearby who knows these?

Are you reasonably handy with electronics yourself?

These were more of a tillage tractor to be fair than a livestock tractor. Some lads swear by them but perhaps the residuals say more.

In your situation, would an older 390 or 398 be better with the 3 stick box - they seem to have come down in price lately and would be a tractor for life.

himwdah

nashmach wrote: »

Probably two key considerations.

Have you a good MF mechanic/dealer nearby who knows these?

Are you reasonably handy with electronics yourself?

These were more of a tillage tractor to be fair than a livestock tractor. Some lads swear by them but perhaps the residuals say more.

In your situation, would an older 390 or 398 be better with the 3 stick box - they seem to have come down in price lately and would be a tractor for life.

u would think that nash as i used to but have to say the 3000 is easier to work on as the 300 series wear out quite quick and can be awkward to fix but r a very good no frills farm machine, the 390 we have was fully rebuilt between 7 and 8000hrs, our old 399 though is still going strong at 9000hrs and no spanners other than clutch from 4000hrs, just the 3000series seem a better built tractor for heavy work but electrics is the worst of them.

MFdaveIreland

Quote:
Originally Posted by nashmach
Probably two key considerations.

Have you a good MF mechanic/dealer nearby who knows these?

Are you reasonably handy with electronics yourself?

These were more of a tillage tractor to be fair than a livestock tractor. Some lads swear by them but perhaps the residuals say more.

In your situation, would an older 390 or 398 be better with the 3 stick box - they seem to have come down in price lately and would be a tractor for life.


Lads interesting points, regards the 300 series, very high residual prices, in my opinion not worth what they are selling for, 12-13k etc, not easy for a MF fan to say either. A sense of reality is required with some of these models, and i just dont think that the 300 series is all that people claim. I have had experience before with a mf 398 with terrible shuttle problems, to the point where it was blind luck wether you could back and forth.

I must say that i liked the fact that even the smallest of the 3000 series were relatively high spec in comparison to others, but as nashmach has said, the 300 series are definately a no-frills stockmans tractor. what would you suggest as a possible MF upgrade from a mf 165 with relative mod-cons and sufficient lift and pulling power. I think that after the 3000 series they didnt get any more advanced so to speak, and dont see any reason for looking past them.

MFdaveIreland

MFdaveIreland wrote: »

Quote:
Originally Posted by nashmach
Probably two key considerations.

Have you a good MF mechanic/dealer nearby who knows these?

Are you reasonably handy with electronics yourself?

These were more of a tillage tractor to be fair than a livestock tractor. Some lads swear by them but perhaps the residuals say more.

In your situation, would an older 390 or 398 be better with the 3 stick box - they seem to have come down in price lately and would be a tractor for life.


Lads interesting points, regards the 300 series, very high residual prices, in my opinion not worth what they are selling for, 12-13k etc, not easy for a MF fan to say either. A sense of reality is required with some of these models, and i just dont think that the 300 series is all that people claim. I have had experience before with a mf 398 with terrible shuttle problems, to the point where it was blind luck wether you could back and forth.

I must say that i liked the fact that even the smallest of the 3000 series were relatively high spec in comparison to others, but as nashmach has said, the 300 series are definately a no-frills stockmans tractor. what would you suggest as a possible MF upgrade from a mf 165 with relative mod-cons and sufficient lift and pulling power. I think that after the 3000 series they didnt get any more advanced so to speak, and dont see any reason for looking past them.[/


Any more opinions???

himwdah

landini legend!

MFdaveIreland

himwdah wrote: »

landini legend!

Wouldn't be up for one of them, reliability??

nashmach

MFdaveIreland wrote: »

Wouldn't be up for one of them, reliability??

Bombproof especially in Techno spec.

Going forward...

Techno as in they say no to technology?

To use your own words against you about your beloved Landini, perhaps the residuals say more.:pac:

nashmach

Going forward... wrote: »

Techno as in they say no to technology?

To use your own words against you about your beloved Landini, perhaps the residuals say more.:pac:

Top is the high specification, Techno is the basic specification.

And yes residuals show it in this case.

There are several of those in this area with over 15k hours and still going strong on loader work and spreading lime.

himwdah

if rh op thinks a bigger massey that would be on top of the work load would be better for him yet the 3000 series might be to much electrical trouble, landini would be the next value tractor with the same perkins engine and a basic no hassle set up with a fair good rep from contractors.

perhaps i an wrong but i did say legend, and i wouldnt mind one of them for back up, long before any other brand

f140

himwdah wrote: »

if rh op thinks a bigger massey that would be on top of the work load would be better for him yet the 3000 series might be to much electrical trouble, landini would be the next value tractor with the same perkins engine and a basic no hassle set up with a fair good rep from contractors.

perhaps i an wrong but i did say legend, and i wouldnt mind one of them for back up, long before any other brand

I heard from my mechanic that actually in reality the electronics are bullet proof its just the 32 speed gearbox that gives the problems but is sorted when a 16 speed box is fitted.

himwdah

f140 wrote: »

I heard from my mechanic that actually in reality the electronics are bullet proof its just the 32 speed gearbox that gives the problems but is sorted when a 16 speed box is fitted.

i find the 3125 and 6180 ok but electics can be hard to track down if it has a broken wire but correded connections are most common with the faults and connections r general knowledge of most mf mechanics.