Cant get signal

yoloc

My uncle gave me a freeview box with dish, i stuck it up earlier and had to connect it to another piece of same wire that was attached to it. Pluged it into the box,scart lead into tv and cant get no channels. went down and had a look at where my da's dish was pointing, pointed in same direction and still no channels appearing. Anyone know what the problem could be. I have pointed it above some trees thinking the trees where blocking the signal but still nothing. TBH, the tree's wherent even that close, say about 50-75m away from the dish.

FanadMan

yoloc wrote: »

My uncle gave me a freeview box with dish, i stuck it up earlier and had to connect it to another piece of same wire that was attached to it. Pluged it into the box,scart lead into tv and cant get no channels. went down and had a look at where my da's dish was pointing, pointed in same direction and still no channels appearing. Anyone know what the problem could be. I have pointed it above some trees thinking the trees where blocking the signal but still nothing. TBH, the tree's wherent even that close, say about 50-75m away from the dish.

Can you connect the box to the other dish? This would rule out whether the box is faulty or not. If it works, get a multi-port LNB so you can connect 2 or more boxes to the one dish.

yoloc

FanadMan wrote: »

Can you connect the box to the other dish? This would rule out whether the box is faulty or not. If it works, get a multi-port LNB so you can connect 2 or more boxes to the one dish.

What other dish ?

FanadMan

yoloc wrote: »

What other dish ?

" had a look at where my da's dish was pointing"

Thought there was another dish there.....

Peter Rhea

A satellite dish is very directional & needs to be precisely aligned horizontally (azimuth) & vertically (elevation). One way to go about it is to get the tv in view of the dish, manually tune the box to one of the 'Freesat' frequencies, get a signal quality display on screen & use this to align the dish for best possible signal.

hallo dare

You can't just point and hope. To get your channels and good reception you need a sat finder to find the satellite your looking for. Typically 28.2.

Peter Rhea

This site might be useful to the OP, if there is high-res. imagery for their location.

Enter your location & select '28.2E ASTRA 1N | ASTRA 2A | ASTRA 2B | ASTRA 2D | ASTRA 2F' from the 'Most Popular Satellites' list. The line on the map should give you a landmark to aim at & will provide a good starting point for the azimuth setting. Elevation & lnb skew can be found in 'Dish Setup Data', below the map.

yoloc

FanadMan wrote: »

" had a look at where my da's dish was pointing"

Thought there was another dish there.....

Sorry lol. Theres no chance because its about 4 acres away

yoloc

Peter Rhea wrote: »

This site might be useful to the OP, if there is high-res. imagery for their location.

Enter your location & select '28.2E ASTRA 1N | ASTRA 2A | ASTRA 2B | ASTRA 2D | ASTRA 2F' from the 'Most Popular Satellites' list. The line on the map should give you a landmark to aim at & will provide a good starting point for the azimuth setting. Elevation & lnb skew can be found in 'Dish Setup Data', below the map.

That site mustin be for us here in uk/ireland because its pointing a completly different direction to where my fathers is pointed. I even checked this on my girlfriends dish and hers isnt pointing to where it should be on this site and she has sky

Peter Rhea

Dishpointer works fine for Ireland. Do you have '28.2E ASTRA 1N | ASTRA 2A | ASTRA 2B | ASTRA 2D | ASTRA 2F' showing in the bar above the map?

yoloc

Peter Rhea wrote: »

Dishpointer works fine for Ireland. Do you have '28.2E ASTRA 1N | ASTRA 2A | ASTRA 2B | ASTRA 2D | ASTRA 2F' showing in the bar above the map?

O rgt, sorry, no i had something else. As for where its pointed at now, well, that where my dish is pointing give or take a few degrees.

Ronnie Raygun

yoloc wrote: »

My uncle gave me a freeview box with dish, i stuck it up earlier and had to connect it to another piece of same wire that was attached to it. Pluged it into the box

What did you use to connect the extra cable?

yoloc

Ronnie Raygun wrote: »

What did you use to connect the extra cable?

The one that says fm fm or something liek it anyway. I pulled it out of the back of an old hifi

Ronnie Raygun

The FF-FF (female-female) would be the usual type, with each cable having a male f-connector.

yoloc

Ronnie Raygun wrote: »

The FF-FF (female-female) would be the usual type, with each cable having a male f-connector.

Think it was a ff ff because the bits attached to both ends of the wire, it fitted perfectly.

Liameter

yoloc wrote: »

My uncle gave me a freeview box with dish, i stuck it up earlier and had to connect it to another piece of same wire that was attached to it. Pluged it into the box,scart lead into tv and cant get no channels.

I think you mean "can get no channels?"
The problem here is obvious. A freeview receiver is designed for use with an aerial, not a dish. You need a satellite TV receiver.

Ronnie Raygun

Not everyone knows that "Freeview" (capital F) is the UK terrestrial service.

Stop trying to be funny/smart/desparate to post anything.

Peter Rhea

yoloc wrote: »

My uncle gave me a freeview box with dish, i stuck it up earlier and had to connect it to another piece of same wire that was attached to it. Pluged it into the box

Ronnie Raygun wrote: »

Not everyone knows that "Freeview" (capital F) is the UK terrestrial service.

Might be a good time to ask the OP what they meant by 'plugged it into the box'?

Presume it's actually an f-connector that needed screwing in?

Liameter

Ronnie Raygun wrote: »

Not everyone knows that "Freeview" (capital F) is the UK terrestrial service.

Stop trying to be funny/smart/desparate (sic) to post anything.

He specifically typed "freeview box" so my reply was based on the information provided. If he was mistaken then I suggest he states specifically the make and model number.

(I didn't care to correct his non capitalisation but, as you are so keen to make corrections, you might like to check the correct spelling of "desparate".)

muffler

I have seen children behaving better :rolleyes:

yoloc

Ill get pics of dish,box and what i connected the wire together with and post later. Checking on the link provided, my dish might be out of alinment just abit, would this make much difference.

Peter Rhea

Dishpointer is just to give you a rough starting point for alignment. You need some kind of indication of signal to align properly. If you can't get a tv within view of the dish, one of these type satellite finders might do the job.

Don't forget dish elevation too. There should be markings on the dish, but again these will probably just give a rough idea, as they may not be particularly accurate, or your mounting might not be dead vertical.

yoloc

Peter Rhea wrote: »

Dishpointer is just to give you a rough starting point for alignment. You need some kind of indication of signal to align properly. If you can't get a tv within view of the dish, one of these type satellite finders might do the job.

Don't forget dish elevation too. There should be markings on the dish, but again these will probably just give a rough idea, as they may not be particularly accurate, or your mounting might not be dead vertical.

What do you mean my markings being dead vertical ?

Peter Rhea

For a fixed dish, it doesn't really matter if the pole/arm the dish is on is perfectly vertical. It would just mean that any markings on the dish or lnb won't be reading true, depending on which way the mounting is off. You would only use the markings as a starting point anyway & fine tune alignment with a signal display of some kind.

yoloc

Much would it cost to get someone out to tune this in for me. I have the hard part out of the way now so cant see it being that much TBH

S28382

I had the same problem installing sat for my GFs dad i had everything set correct ans still couldnt get a signal after alot of troubleshooting it turned out the LNB which was new was faulty.:mad:

yoloc

S28382 wrote: »

I had the same problem installing sat for my GFs dad i had everything set correct ans still couldnt get a signal after alot of troubleshooting it turned out the LNB which was new was faulty.:mad:

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S28382

The LNB is the unit at the end of the arm on the dish.

yoloc

S28382 wrote: »

The LNB is the unit at the end of the arm on the dish.

Are they expensive ?

So if i have my dish pointing in right direction and not getting a signal, then i get a new connector thats connecting the 2 wires. If it still doesnt work then it should be the LNB not working. What else could it be why im not receiving a signal

Peter Rhea

You don't seem to have any way of knowing if your dish is aligned properly, so you can't start condemning lnbs etc.

What's the make & model of the receiver? Is it from one of the Lidl or Aldi kits?

S28382

yoloc wrote: »

Are they expensive ?

So if i have my dish pointing in right direction and not getting a signal, then i get a new connector thats connecting the 2 wires. If it still doesnt work then it should be the LNB not working. What else could it be why im not receiving a signal

No an LNB is not expensive, my advice would be make sure you have the correct box then check all connections check and see if the cable if not frayed of damaged somewhere if you can get a sat finder it will make it a little bit easier as said tho if the dish is not aligned in the correct manner then you wont find the satellite regardless of what set up you have going on.

Apogee

yoloc wrote: »

Ill get pics of dish,box and what i connected the wire together with and post later. Checking on the link provided, my dish might be out of alinment just abit, would this make much difference.

To repeat what others have already said, you cannot expect to align a dish using online alignment tools. As best it will give you a rough idea where the dish should be pointed, but that is all. You need to align the dish using either a separate signal meter, or using the signal meter in the receiver.

See here:
https://sites.google.com/site/freetoairinfo/home/how-to-align-a-satellite

yoloc

Have took of the LNB, connected it to my fathers dish and it didnt work then put my fathers back on his and his worked straight away without having to tune in again. Didnt have time to put the LNB on my own and check it but will buy a new one tomorrow and hopefully it'll work.

yoloc

Peter Rhea wrote: »

You don't seem to have any way of knowing if your dish is aligned properly, so you can't start condemning lnbs etc.

What's the make & model of the receiver? Is it from one of the Lidl or Aldi kits?

Havent a clue what make or model it is. Al i know is that my uncle paid 100euro for someone to come out and install it for him with all materials in that price. Its one that picks up the scottish channels etc.. if that makes any sense.

yoloc

Apogee wrote: »

To repeat what others have already said, you cannot expect to align a dish using online alignment tools. As best it will give you a rough idea where the dish should be pointed, but that is all. You need to align the dish using either a separate signal meter, or using the signal meter in the receiver.

See here:
https://sites.google.com/site/freetoairinfo/home/how-to-align-a-satellite

Its telling me in that link that i can do it without a meter

Apogee

yoloc wrote: »

Its telling me in that link that i can do it without a meter

Reread what I wrote - either a separate signal meter or the signal meter in the receiver.

The Cush

yoloc wrote: »

Its telling me in that link that i can do it without a meter

This is the meter I use, not too expensive - http://www.creativesatellite.co.uk/contents/en-uk/p2170.html

FanadMan

Just thinking - if it was one of the Lidl or Aldi kits, it prob should have a meter with it. I still have one from my first box. Have never used it but still have it........somewhere.

If you are going to buy a new LNB, get a multi-port one in case you ever want to connect more boxes to the dish. Also, when you are getting the LNB, see what they are charging for a meter.