building 600-700 gaming pc

remydegreat

Hi guys, had a gaming laptop, now considering building a gaming pc, I have mouse, keyboard and 1080 monitor already.i have a few questions, where should I buy parts ? Dabs elara ? Also is it worth going to like of overclock.co.uk and getting them to build or will I pay alot for assembly.and lastly can ye recommend list for build between 600-700 euro.id like to be able to play games on best settings possible, also I will be able get win 7 of my friend, so just hardware I need.

I see people recomed xeon, what that like v i3, 5, 7

My last laptop 2 years old had i72630qm and nvidia gtx 460m, would a 600-700 hundred pc build have alot more power than

And lastly im going for a ssd and will add hdd at some other stage,

BloodBath

I know you've answered a lot of this already but fill this in please.


1. What is your budget? [€xxx]

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? [Gaming/Video editing/3D Modelling/HTPC/Internet] (If gaming include which games)

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? [Yes/No]

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? [Hard drive/DVD Drive/Case/PSU/etc.] (If possible state brand and model of the parts to ensure compatibility)

5. Do you need a monitor? [Yes/No]

5a. If yes, what size do you need. [19'/20'/22'/24'/etc.]

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [1920x1080/1440x900/etc.] [Yes/No]

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? [Keyboard/Mouse/Wireless Card/Card Reader/Speakers/etc.]

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? [Yes/No]

8. How can you pay? [Bank Transfer/Credit Card/Laser]

9. When are you purchasing? [In x days]

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? [South Dublin City/Cork City/Kerry/etc.]

BloodBath

This would do nicely anyway.

Item|Price
Intel Core i5-3330 Box, LGA1155|€154.25
ASRock B75 Pro3-M, Sockel 1155, mATX|€58.68
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 WindForce 3X OC, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort|€235.50
8GB-Kit A-DATA XPG G Series PC1600 CL9|€60.59
Samsung SSD 840 120GB SATA 6Gb/s|€85.04
Cooler Master N200, mATX-mini-Tower, schwarz, ohne Netzteil|€33.56
be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 7 500W|€53.75
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€700.36

remydegreat

BloodBath wrote: »

I know you've answered a lot of this already but fill this in please.


1. What is your budget? [€600-700

2. What will be the main purpose of the build ? Gaming and web browsing

3. Do you need a copy of Windows?no

4. Can you use any parts from an old compuer? No

5. Do you need a monitor? No

5a. If yes, what size do you need. [19'/20'/22'/24'/etc.]

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? 1920x108 No

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? Wireless card

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? No

8. How can you pay? Visa debit

9. When are you purchasing? [In 7 days]

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? Galway

remydegreat

Thx for quick reply bloodbath, what website would you recommend ? Any off that list come as bundle, is there much money saved in building myself? With that list you gave me, would it play likes if bf3 at fairly high graphics

BloodBath

No bother.

The build above is perfect then. It will run bf3 at a solid 60fps on max settings @ 1080p.

Hardwareversand is the place to go. Everybody here orders from there. You can get HWVS to build it for you for an additional €20 if you want.

I'd build it myself though. It's not hard and it's a good experience getting all your parts. It's handy having all the boxes in case you need to send anything back under warranty or sell them on as well.

remydegreat

Might consider them putting it together, only thing im condideribg changing on your list is case,are all cases standard inside the way cards fit in ?lastly I mite go as far as 800 , any other upgrade youd recomend,.like would I get much better processer for another 100

BloodBath wrote: »

No bother.

The build above is perfect then. It will run bf3 at a solid 60fps on max settings @ 1080p.

Hardwareversand is the place to go. Everybody here orders from there. You can get HWVS to build it for you for an additional €20 if you want.

I'd build it myself though. It's not hard and it's a good experience getting all your parts. It's handy having all the boxes in case you need to send anything back under warranty or sell them on as well.

remydegreat

Do cases come with fans, and xan I add additional fans, also when adding fans will they add much load to powersuppky, any other cases ye coukd recomend, like blue lights and plenty fans lol

BloodBath

They are and they aren't standard inside. Features and build quality vary. What's wrong with the case I listed? It's an amazing case for the price.

If you want to increase the buget to €800 though you could change the case to this. Comes in silver+black or silver+white as well. They come with 3 fans. It's a padded silenced case as well to reduce noise. Fans use hardly any power but you wouldn't need anymore than that for a non overclocked rig.

Change the processor to the xeon. It's basically the same as an i7 3770 running 100mhz slower and without the igp.

Change the board to the full atx version.

Add this to the cart if you want them to build it.

That will bring you up to €800.

remydegreat

Watching alot build videos so going build myself, just like fancy looking cases :)thx for your help bloodbath, is the intel standard cooling goid enough

BloodBath wrote: »

They are and they aren't standard inside. Features and build quality vary. What's wrong with the case I listed? It's an amazing case for the price.

If you want to increase the buget though you could change the case to this. Comes in silver+black or silver+white as well.

The processor to the xeon. It's basically the same as an i7 3770 running 100mhz slower and without the igp.

Change the board to the full atx version.

Add this to the cart if you want them to build it.

remydegreat

That case you listed is class in silver

remydegreat wrote: »

Watching alot build videos so going build myself, just like fancy looking cases :)thx for your help bloodbath, is the intel standard cooling goid enough

remydegreat

Going to go with 800 , lastly bloodbath, can you recommend optical drive, and how would I get optical out on pc as I have 7.1 headfines

BloodBath

The stock cooler isn't the best. It could get quite hot and louder on hot days, not that we get many of those and you should be out enjoying it when we do

If you want a cheap better one that will run cooler and quieter grab one of these.

BloodBath

Grab any cheap optical drive. It doesn't really matter. A standard cheap dvd drive will be about €12, a dvd burner will be €17.

The motherboard sound has optical out and 7.1 support.

remydegreat

Thats everything then, il get upgraded cooler aswell, like it running cool, so the xeon had no integrated graphiphics v the I series processors, graphics deals with all graphics then, do u think it he much more powerful than my old laptop i7 2630qm and gtx 460m card, sorry 4 all the questions

BloodBath wrote: »

Grab any cheap optical drive. It doesn't really matter. A standard cheap dvd drive will be about €12, a dvd burner will be €17.

The motherboard sound has optical out and 7.1 support.

BloodBath

You can get xeons with integrated graphics but they cost more and it's pointless when you are using a dedicated graphics card.

It would be miles ahead of your old laptop. Laptop parts, even with the same name, run much slower than their desktop counterparts. I would say you would be looking at around at least 3 times the performance.

remydegreat

http://www.hardwareversand.de/Midi/73549/Zalman+Z11+Plus+Midi+Tower+-+schwarz%2C+ohne+Netzteil.article will that case work with the setup you gave me ?

BloodBath

Yes with the updated parts. The full atx board.

remydegreat

http://www.hardwareversand.de/Socket+1150/78027/Intel+Core+i5-4670K+Box%2C+LGA1150.article I was thinking of going with this over xeon, what motherboard would suit this wana spend 70-80 on board , also when choosing board I know to look for lga1150 socket, but what chipset type mean, would b75 board be compatible with that processer as chipset type is b75 and its 4th generation

BloodBath

That 4670k is an overclocking version of Haswell.

You won't get an overclocking haswell board that cheap. You're looking at around at least €110 for a decent board for that. You will need a decent cpu cooler to go with it then as well. If not overclocking the xeon is the better processor. Even with overclocking on the Haswell anything using more than 4 threads will be better on the xeon.

remydegreat

Cool, does cpu chipset have to match board chipset , for example would that 4760k type work on a b75 board ? I dont mind spending 110 on board, hard to know were to stop lol , I wont be ovetclocking but might in the future.what board would you recommend with that chip,

remydegreat

So if choosing board I have to look at socket type and chipset type

BloodBath

If you aren't overclocking right away there is no point spending the extra money on those parts to be honest. It's going to cost you an extra €90 over the xeon + board combo for virtually the same stock performance. Newer games using more than 4 cores will perform better on the xeon regardless.

If you want to go ahead with it then you will need a z87 1550 mainboard. This would be one of the cheapest decent ones.

You're going to need a better cpu cooler to go with it then. A coolermaster hyper 212 evo is the cheapest option at €30.

remydegreat

Have to know were to draw the line, xeon has really good reviews alrite ,

remydegreat

B75 board and xeon v z87 biard and i5, if money wasnt an issue which combo wod u choose, will i5 be marginally better

remydegreat

Woukd i5 4760k work on b75 board ? Just wouldnt be able overclock ?

BloodBath

A z77 board + 3570k + cpu cooler is still going to cost €45 more than the b75 + xeon combo. When overclocked it will outperform the xeon in programs/games using 4 cores or less but in anything using more than 4 the xeon wins.

There is no point pairing a 4670k with anything other than a z87 board or it's a waste of money. That will total €90 more than the xeon combo.

remydegreat

http://www.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/59322/ASRock+Z77+Pro3%2C+Sockel+1155%2C+ATX.article with the i5 3570k and the cpu cooler you recommended and the ram you mentioned in build, that a good board ?

BloodBath

Yep. That's the board to go for.

remydegreat

BloodBath wrote: »

Yep. That's the board to go for.

Put that order through via bank transfer online, how long do they take to deliver to ireland, cant believe they dont do visa

BloodBath

It will take a couple of working days for the transfer to clear then 3 days for delivery I think. Assuming all of the parts are in stock.