Weeds in reseed

Sam Kade

I reseeded a field with westerwolds during the dry weather. The weeds mostly red shank germinated before the rain came and took off and are smothering the grassseeds. What's the best thing to do now? I was going to spray the weeds and go over the field with more seed when they die off and roll the field after. I don't expect to see too much grass after spraying :mad:

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Any other suggestions?

49801

Sam Kade wrote: »

Any other suggestions?

Nope!

Just crack on with spraying ASAP. Only worry would be amount of decaying trash... Gran lime perhaps... I'd prob chance it as is.

Sam Kade

49801 wrote: »

Nope!

Just crack on with spraying ASAP. Only worry would be amount of decaying trash... Gran lime perhaps... I'd prob chance it as is.

I gave it 100kgs gran lime/ac at sowing. I would have sprayed earlier but the grass seeds were too weak.

dharn

You could try topping it ,weeds dont like being cut close

funny man

it's a hard one to call looking at a picture if it's as bad as pic 2 i'd spray it with round-up and run a one pass on it, but if there is a reasonable amount of grass on it as in pic 3 i would spray it with pastor 2litres/Hec and graze it bare (shave it!) with all the stock that you can practically put on it to graze it off as quickly as possiable.
This advice is based on 3 pics would strongly advise someone to look at it (agri advisor)

49801

Sam Kade wrote: »

I gave it 100kgs gran lime/ac at sowing. I would have sprayed earlier but the grass seeds were too weak.

I ran into not dissimilar trouble here with very uneven emergence. I too was afraid to spraying as grass was very young in patches. It is not an easy one! I spread grass by hand after 1st grazing into the bad bits and it is starting to come.

I don't think you should go topping though. That will only make it more difficult to spray as you will have to wait till there is good leaf a again

reilig

Have you access to lambs?
We are often approached by neighbours for the loan of our lambs to let them in to eat it to the butt. The weeds won't grow in the second growth. If you top it, you are left with a pile of dirt on left on top. Lambs would eat it to the root and give the second growth of grass a great chance to come through!

Sam Kade

reilig wrote: »

Have you access to lambs?
We are often approached by neighbours for the loan of our lambs to let them in to eat it to the butt. The weeds won't grow in the second growth. If you top it, you are left with a pile of dirt on left on top. Lambs would eat it to the root and give the second growth of grass a great chance to come through!

No, only calves and they would take too long to graze it. I have year and a half bullocks but they would be too heavy.

reilig

Sam Kade wrote: »

No, only calves and they would take too long to graze it. I have year and a half bullocks but they would be too heavy.

I personally wouldn't be a fan of letting any type of cattle into it. They would be too selective of what they would eat and still leave clumps. You could always borrow sheep of a neighbour - I'm sure they would be glad of the free feeding - at the end of the day you would get more benefit out of it than the sheep owners.

GERMAN ROCKS

how much fert have you given it so far? if I was you I would get the local sprays man from the coop or whoever you deal with out and ask him whats the best course of action as he can inspect the whole field whereas we are only guessing from 3 small snaps.

Sam Kade

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

how much fert have you given it so far? if I was you I would get the local sprays man from the coop or whoever you deal with out and ask him whats the best course of action as he can inspect the whole field whereas we are only guessing from 3 small snaps.

3 cwt 18:6:12/ac and 2 cwt/ gran lime/acre

orchardfarmer

i had an identical problem with a re seed this year, serious crop of red shank.
Sprayed it first with 'clovermax' - a herbicide that protects the clover. Waste of time, only stunted the growth for a week and away it went again.
Then tried to graze it with the neighbours sheep but couldn't keep them in the field!!
Finally i strip grazed it with cattle and then topped whatever was left, gave it a couple of bags of pasture sward and 3 weeks later the grass has thickened up lovely with frig all weed left.
reilig is right, the red shank doesnt come in the second growth, at the same time the seed of this weed must be versatile stuff, this field hadnt been reseeded in 25+ years so the seed must have been in the ground for at least this long and still survived!!

F.D

we had various weeds coming up in our reseed, was sprayed with roundup before ploughing etc but because of the dry weather once we reseeded the weeds are after coming up stronger than the grass
anyway i sprayed with UNDERSOWN DB PLUS over the weekend, its clover safe but expensive, seems to be doing the trick but time will tell
we only have calves available to let out on it so it will have to wait until its thickened up before we can chance grazing it
i noticed under the weeds there is little shoots of grass coming since the rain has come so i'm hoping there will be no spots i have to seed again

jd06

Hi. Would de under sown kill seedling docks too. I was like you I sprayed off 4weeks before sowing. De evening I sowed I noticed de seedling docks in it . Hopefully de under sown will take care of them.?????

49801

jd06 wrote: »

Hi. Would de under sown kill seedling docks too. I was like you I sprayed off 4weeks before sowing. De evening I sowed I noticed de seedling docks in it . Hopefully de under sown will take care of them.?????

Yes it will.
Just spray as soon as the grass is strong enough to take a spraying

That said I am a big advocate of bringing a 5l garden sprayer of grazon 90 with you when your walking the place so you catch strays early.

razor8

I have patches of redshank coming into my reseed. seed is in 3 weeks, have spread gran lime and 10-10-20. when could i let lambs into it?? or should i spray. in places the redshank is completely smothering grass but only in one corner of field

is crowesfoot similar to redshank?

C4d78

Can anyone identify this weed. Took over when grass slow coming in reseeds during dry spell.