Cemetery Sunday Mullingar.

Reggie 123

CemeterySunday Mullingar.

Anybody who attended Cemetery Sunday in Mullingar this afternoon would be forgiven in thinking that it had transformed into a film set of the next blockbuster horror movie such was the disgusting behaviour of the minority who attended, up to 150 members of the travelling community staged a pitched battle with each other just after 2.30pm in the grave yard, 150 thugs who were hell bent of starting trouble, and believe me that is exactly what happened, they charged at each other using rocks and anything they could pick up from other graves and use as weapons, shocked families ran from the cemetery in haste as gardai tried to maintain lawand order, children ran in terror as these thugs had no more notion of respecting those who had gone before them, animals!

I have to say that the ERU Gardai Unit was on hand and played a blinder, it got so bad that the Garda helicopter was called in and maintained a presence (at a cost of €400/600 per hour), I would say that if you added up the Garda overtime and the price of the extra resources that was used if would up to a fairly big bill.

But then it is mugs like you and me that will have to cough up. I believe that will all the cctv andrecording equipment that Gardai used these cowards should be rounded up and dealt with in such a manner that they won’t do it again, it was these thugs who smashed up a public house in Mullingar on Saturday night last, they have no fear of law and order and no respect for same, Name them, shame them and make them pay for every last bit of damage they have created. .

roosterman71

NIce rant, but don't get worked up and expecting any justice to be dealt with. These boyos do this cos they know there are no repercussions. Sad I know, but thats the reality

If you or me had a little battle, then had a pint afterwards by way of apology, we'd be hauled up into court in double quick time and be put behind bars in no time. One rule for the scum, another for the decent man

irishpancake

roosterman71 wrote: »

NIce rant, but don't get worked up and expecting any justice to be dealt with. These boyos do this cos they know there are no repercussions. Sad I know, but thats the reality

If you or me had a little battle, then had a pint afterwards by way of apology, we'd be hauled up into court in double quick time and be put behind bars in no time. One rule for the scum, another for the decent man

I don't think the OP is a rant.....

it is precisely what happened. I was there, at my mother and fathers grave, with my brothers and sisters, and my own children, and my other extended family.

Unfortunately, the grave is located in close proximity to the wall which separates the graveyard from the settlement where these travelers live, and they were coming and going over that wall.....

disgraceful and blasphemous stuff was done, like taking ornate stone chippings from our grave and other graves for use as weapons....

also, theses thugs had stored weapons, like golf clubs and lengths of piping under a seat which had been provided by our neighboring grave, good decent Christian people saw their thoughtful and decent act turned into a cache of weaponry for use by thugs, who cared nothing for those thousands who gathered to pay their respects to deceased loved ones.

The priest said not one word if remonstration to these thugs, instead just proceeded.

I was very disappointed he did not use his moral authority to call out these thugs and tell them to leave.

I always thought we lived in a free country, which had law as its basis....it appears that travelers are now immune to law.

Reggie 123

Why don't the good people of Mullingar stand up to these scumbags? you might have guessed that I am not a native but I attended because some of my wife's family are buried there, the solution to this existing problem regarding travellers who visit or who are resident in Mullingar lies in the hands of law the law biding people from Mullingar.

Anybody that was present Ballyglass cemetery will know what I mean, these guys had it good for long enough.

irishpancake

Reggie 123 wrote: »

Why don't the good people of Mullingar stand up to these scumbags? you might have guessed that I am not a native but I attended because some of my wife's family are buried there, the solution to this existing problem regarding travellers who visit or who are resident in Mullingar lies in the hands of law the law biding people from Mullingar.

Anybody that was present Ballyglass cemetery will know what I mean, these guys had it good for long enough.

Would you like to point out exactly what the people of Mullingar can, or could have done on Sunday??

Take the law into their own hands, like the thugs??

I hope, and I suspect, you don't mean that the gathered 2000 or so Christian, decent people, who were there to commemorate and pray for their deceased relatives and loved one's, should have tackled this mob themselves......???

The gathered people were mostly older couples, grannies and grandads, young children and babies, recently bereaved people, and those who go every year.

In other words, a cross section of society....

who certainly did not expect to see this Holy Day turned into a battlefield for thugs with no respect, no real religion, although they profess to have superstitious beliefs, no manners, no sense of decorum, their women dressed like common whores.....an affront to decency.....

basically uncivilised scum.

The decent people of Mullingar deserve much more, these thugs should have been tackled forcibly by the Guards and their Special units, using the Army if necessary.....the only way to treat these criminal thugs is to meet force with force.

We have laws to deal with terrorists, and special courts in which to try them, and CAB to investigate their obvious wealth from unknown sources, but you and I know it is from drug dealing and other criminal activities, it is not hard to hazard a guess.....

So, why are we, as a society, not utilising the tools at our disposal to wipe out this thuggery?

Why is the law imposed on every other section of society, quite correctly, yet these thugs get treated with kid gloves??

I say enough is enough, they have gone too far, and they need to be tackled head on, or it will get worse, and decent people will be afraid and in fear of their lives...

in such fear that they will not be able to commemorate their deceased relatives and loved ones, leaving Ballyglass to the thugs, as their battleground.

nice_guy80

and while all the gardai were drafted into deal with this there was no police cover for areas surrounding mullingar

wouldn't be a bit surprised if a few of the thugs took advantage of this

castration wouldn't be good enough for some of the scum around the county.
between fighting, fly tipping and stealing these people only take from society

An Ri rua

Cemetery Sunday was cancelled in Tullamore a few years ago due to an incendiary device being discovered under Clonminch Bridge.

A number of years ago, when I was a young lad, the men of our townsland had to stand up to a large contingent of traveller men who were intent on enlarging a camp quite sizeably. The existing camp was accepted and interactions were amicable. But an attempt was made, by local councillors (landowners) and unfortunately the Gardai to allow the invasion to happen. Over 100 men stood their ground and more would have followed; to stand up to the brute force that was occurring. The Gardaí were also warned of their perilous stance. Eventually, the locals won and the few travellers who were living there originally CONTINUED to live peacefully for over a decade. Everyone recognises thuggery when they see it; whether its against non-travellers or travellers themselves. Thuggery should be met by brute force, such as specialist garda units. Normal Gardaí should not have to be put into these situations either. Those who pick up weapons should be 'tested'.
In smaller towns that are poorly policed (not the Gardaí's fault) like Mountmellick, locals have warned they will take the law into their own hands where thugs (occasionally travellers, often not) have decided there is no law enforcement. That cuts both ways and there have already been vigilante incidences.
Until travellers are treated like citizens in regards to crime, then these outrages will continue to happen. I know a good number of travellers who have bettered themselves. PHds etc. Good jobs. There is NO CULTURAL EXCUSE that covers disturbing and harrassing other law-abiding citizens in a Republic. Until traveller spokespeople stop talking through their a*ses and start condemning antisocial actions (which is what the dopey priest should have done and is what, finally, led to movement in the Northern Ireland peace process), then nothing will change. Traveller men think they are back in the 19th century with their pride and their faction fights. This is the 21st century and policing needs to show its hard edge on occasion. Otherwise even local Gardaí, unequipped or untrained for such violence, will get hurt or killed.

Reggie 123

@ Rosterman - I hear what you are saying, but what is the solution??

Reggie 123

I was talking to a Garda friend of mine who in the past was stationed in Mullingar, at the time she said that Mullingar will shortly become the 'new Limerick' as the travellers from Mullingar don't even respect their own so called culture let alone the law of the land.

roosterman71

Reggie 123 wrote: »

@ Rosterman - I hear what you are saying, but what is the solution??

None of my solutions would most likely be socially acceptable, and Amnesty would definitely go crazy