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water at the out farm

  • 04-08-2013 9:56am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭


    Hi folks,

    I am going to sink a well in the out farm but instead of paying a 3rd standing charge for electricity I have been thinking outside the box! Heres the plan;
    Farm is on a hill
    Sink a well close to the top
    Petrol driven pump with an electric start engine
    2 ibc tanks linked together fitted with flaot switches
    Gravity feed from ibc tanks to troughs
    Water level drops below the min switch automatically starting the engine until the ibc tanks are full and the second float switch cuts off the engine

    Only watering approx 20 dry stock so my reckoning is 2-3 days supply per fill.. anyone do anything like this?

    I have done rough costs for it and €500 would do a lot on it.. and I would need 3 poles for tje esb too!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    sinking a well .... on a hill


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    larthehar wrote: »
    Hi folks,

    I am going to sink a well in the out farm but instead of paying a 3rd standing charge for electricity I have been thinking outside the box! Heres the plan;
    Farm is on a hill
    Sink a well close to the top
    Petrol driven pump with an electric start engine
    2 ibc tanks linked together fitted with flaot switches
    Gravity feed from ibc tanks to troughs
    Water level drops below the min switch automatically starting the engine until the ibc tanks are full and the second float switch cuts off the engine

    Only watering approx 20 dry stock so my reckoning is 2-3 days supply per fill.. anyone do anything like this?

    I have done rough costs for it and €500 would do a lot on it.. and I would need 3 poles for tje esb too!
    I recon drawing water in 50kg fertiliser bags would be less hardship
    Drill where the water is and bring power to it once and be finished with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    No need to sink the well on the hill, couldn't you pump the water up to the tanks.
    Starting the pump on a signal isn't as easy as you think, sometimes they start in a flash and sometimes they have to run the starter for 10/15 sec, how about choke operation? The circuit would need to know the pump had started or it would keep running the starter.

    It's not impossible, but not so simple to get right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    If there is water at the top of the hill would it be possible to syphon the water to the drinkers/header tank?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    would one of those pasture pumps not be worth aa try. reilig has them i think.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I reckon have the well lower down and pump it up to a tank on higher ground. You'd need a foot valve on the pump so it wouldn't need priming every time it starts. If it is only a few cattle forget about automation, just turn it on manually once or twice a week.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    ask a neighbor for water and tell him you will give them a 100 quid a year or work out how many cubic meters you will use and paid him X a meter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭reilig


    Get in a digger. Dig a hole in the wettest part. Put down 3 manhole rings one on top of the other. Drill several holes in each ring. Fill around each ring with gravel. Put a concrete biscuit on top and a steel manhole lid. Will cost no more than 300 euro. Get a pasture pump for 300 euro. It'll supply enough water for up to 20 cows with no automation, no drilling and no bills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,828 ✭✭✭yellow50HX


    reilig wrote: »
    Get in a digger. Dig a hole in the wettest part. Put down 3 manhole rings one on top of the other. Drill several holes in each ring. Fill around each ring with gravel. Put a concrete biscuit on top and a steel manhole lid. Will cost no more than 300 euro. Get a pasture pump for 300 euro. It'll supply enough water for up to 20 cows with no automation, no drilling and no bills.

    Depends on your land, pasture pump wouldn't be worth much round here no springs or water at high level so you need the drill a bore hole, average well round here are from 150 to 300ft

    My neighbour has an outside farm where that had an old hand pump, well is about 70 ft. Esb connection to it would be a couple grand. Only has the cattle there during the summer so got himself a new submersible pump, got a petrol generator and a big plastic tank. He fixed up a pump house and has the generator in it. Starts the generator when he calls over to check the cattle, it runs to fill the tank and troughs then turns off its self from the float valve. The tank will store enough for 2-3 days and he checks the cattle every day.

    A tank of petrol will do a month. I'd say €70-80 of petrol will do him for the year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭leg wax


    i could do with a petrol pump let us know when you have it in,i will come for a look its still there:rolleyes::rolleyes: save cents waste euros comes to mind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    Ya cant even leave a battery fencer on an outfarm around ere not to mind a generator.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭1chippy


    check to see if there is a water scheme around. a b connection for drinkers and the likes is only around 700 around here anyway.


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