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Garda question

  • 04-08-2013 12:26am
    #1
    EmmaThomas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭


    Hi,


    I was just thinking about this if Garda was off duty can they carry the OC spray with them?


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  • #2
    thekopend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭thekopend


    Common sense applies here, the answer is no. Would a police man or off duty guard have a gun when not on duty, no. Same principal.


  • #3
    3fullback
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭3fullback


    thekopend wrote: »
    Common sense applies here, the answer is no. Would a police man or off duty guard have a gun when not on duty, no. Same principal.

    Nypd are allowed to have there gun on them off duty !


  • #4
    thekopend
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,073 ✭✭✭thekopend


    3fullback wrote: »
    Nypd are allowed to have there gun on them off duty !

    America would be an exception I spose


  • #5
    rollcall
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 153 ✭✭rollcall


    Handcuffs, spray and batons are personal issues, so there is no reason that we cant take them home, have them in the car when going to or from work etc. The issue would be justifying their use in an off duty situation if you had to use them. Personal issue firearms are the same, if an off-duty detective is passing by a armed robbery and draws their firearm, that would not be a problem.


  • #6
    TheNog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭TheNog


    Short answer to this question is no an off duty cannot have pepper spray in their possession. Reason is it is considered an offensive weapon in Irish law and technically a Garda can be prosecuted for having it while off duty but not when on duty


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  • #7
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    amazing how gardai can have their issue revolver with them off duty but not their OC spray

    very irish!


  • #8
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    Scouser wrote: »
    amazing how gardai can have their issue revolver with them off duty but not their OC spray

    very irish!

    OC spray is classified as a firearm and is therefore not allowed to be taken out of the station by a member unless on they are on duty .
    Why the hell would you want to bring it home with you ???? . Batons and Cuffs are different but then again why would you want to bring them home.???


  • #9
    goldie fish
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    The facepalm level on this thread is massive.

    ImpliedFacepalm.jpg


  • #10
    Biggles1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ✭Biggles1980


    Raider190 wrote: »
    OC spray is classified as a firearm and is therefore not allowed to be taken out of the station by a member unless on they are on duty

    Where are you getting that from? Detective Gardai with personal issue pistols can take them home off duty. It's no different with the pepper spray as it is also personal issue. There might be a problem if you used it while off duty. I'm not sure what the official position is. However if you used it legally and proportionally, ie stopping a violent crime etc I don't see a problem.


  • #11
    Scouser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scouser


    Biggles1980 wrote: »
    Where are you getting that from? Detective Gardai with personal issue pistols can take them home off duty. It's no different with the pepper spray as it is also personal issue. There might be a problem if you used it while off duty. I'm not sure what the official position is. However if you used it legally and proportionally, ie stopping a violent crime etc I don't see a problem.

    its a firearm

    armed gardai have fire arms cards which certify their use and posession on and off duty

    uniformed gardai do not have fire arms cards - but are legally entitled to carry OC spray whilst on official uniformed duty. carrying it off duty would constitute carrying a firearm which they are not allowed do

    thats the difference as far as im aware


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  • #12
    Biggles1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ✭Biggles1980


    Scouser wrote: »
    its a firearm

    armed gardai have fire arms cards which certify their use and posession on and off duty

    uniformed gardai do not have fire arms cards - but are legally entitled to carry OC spray whilst on official uniformed duty. carrying it off duty would constitute carrying a firearm which they are not allowed do


    thats the difference as far as im aware

    Yeah that makes sense. Cheers Scouser


  • #13
    Raider190
    Site Banned Posts: 819 ✭✭✭Raider190


    Biggles1980 wrote: »
    Where are you getting that from? Detective Gardai with personal issue pistols can take them home off duty. It's no different with the pepper spray as it is also personal issue. There might be a problem if you used it while off duty. I'm not sure what the official position is. However if you used it legally and proportionally, ie stopping a violent crime etc I don't see a problem.

    Amazing you give an answer and it's like a bolt out of the blue. I get it from experience and the regulations. No member brings his OC spray home. Why oh why would you want to???????


  • #14
    Biggles1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 ✭Biggles1980


    Raider190 wrote: »
    Amazing you give an answer and it's like a bolt out of the blue. I get it from experience and the regulations

    Fair enough. Was just asking as you didn't specify.
    Raider190 wrote: »
    No member brings his OC spray home. Why oh why would you want to???????

    No I suspect you wouldn't want to. Leave the job in the station!


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