RTE1+1 Reeling In The Years not available.

10000maniacs

Whey don't RTE just go away and die a peaceful and dignified death.
I for one won't miss them.
If they can't even afford to show Reeling In The Years 1983 on the +1 channel, just shag off and we can stop paying €160 a year.
Give TV3 or someone else the €160 and all this BS will end.

Flip Flop

Why would they bother spending extra money showing an episode of Reeling In the Years which has been shown a million times already. That would be wasting your €160.

byte

Isn't it to do with licencing of the music clips? Similarly, the whole RITY couldn't be released on DVD.

I'm also pretty sure ITV had their timeshift channels blank for certain programmes though cannot remember which now. Maybe sports.

As for paying TV3 my 160eur per year... Sweet Jesus man, don't be crazy!

10000maniacs

Flip Flop wrote: »

Why would they bother spending extra money showing an episode of Reeling In the Years which has been shown a million times already. That would be wasting your €160.

Yeah, for that matter why bother even having an RTE1 +1 channel?
You are totally missing the point.
I sat down to watch Reeling In The Years tonight on RTE1+1 and the screen message came up after 5 minutes.
You either provide a service or you don't. Take it off the air if you can't fill the slots with material.
Why bother even having an RTE channel if it will cost €60 million for them to break even?

byte

RTE didn't even want a +1 channel, but wanted an RTE Choice sorta channel with a selection of programming from 1 and 2, but weren't allowed to.

Biffo The Bare

I agree with OP. It may seem like a small point, but its the accumulation of all these small points that is annoying to RTE's customer base.

-No Premier League highlights this year.
-No HD on RTE 1
-No non Irish channels on Saorview.
-No decent guests on The Late Late Show or Saturday night chat shows.
-Crap game shows like Winning Streak.

lertsnim

Biffo The Bare wrote: »

-No non Irish channels on Saorview.

How exactly is this the fault of RTÉ? Which non Irish channels have actually tried to go on Saorview?

gordongekko

But on a positive note they no longer have pat kenny

lertsnim

Newstalks gain imo

Biffo The Bare

lertsnim wrote: »

How exactly is this the fault of RTÉ? Which non Irish channels have actually tried to go on Saorview?

They together with TV3 lobbied to scupper plans for BBC 1 and BBC 2 to broadcast on the Saorview platform as part of The Memorandum Of Understanding.
Eamonn Ryan was only too willing to capitulate at the time.

10000maniacs

Biffo The Bare wrote: »

They together with TV3 lobbied to scupper plans for BBC 1 and BBC 2 to broadcast on the Saorview platform as part of The Memorandum Of Understanding.
Eamonn Ryan was only too willing to capitulate at the time.

At least they can't use the BBC on Saorview as an excuse for losing €60 million now. And by golly they would have done iif the memorandum was carried out as originally agreed.

The Cush

Biffo The Bare wrote: »

They together with TV3 lobbied to scupper plans for BBC 1 and BBC 2 to broadcast on the Saorview platform as part of The Memorandum Of Understanding.

Not correct, discussed here in the forum previously and raised in the Dáil. The BBC aren't interested in providing their channels to Saorview and there is no requirement for them to do so on a FTA basis in the MoU. Also they expressed no interest when the BAI advertised the spare capacity on the PSB muxes in 2011.

Thursday, 13 January 2011

The MOU also provides for the carriage of TG4 on Northern Ireland’s DTT platform and facilitates the possibility of RTE being transmitted over DTT in the North and for the BBC to be carried in the South. While many viewers in Ireland and Northern Ireland watch the other country’s free-to-air TV channels through overspill, perhaps most significantly the MOU allows the possibility of broadcasting RTE on an all-island basis for the first time in the history of the State. While the BBC has not engaged in the process for the delivery of free-to-air BBC services throughout Ireland and has no legislative remit to offer service to the island of Ireland, I am happy to report that both RTE and TG4 are fully engaged in the process we have set out.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056153898

Thursday, 11 October 2012
...
On the issue of BBC coverage within Ireland, this is a commercial matter for the BBC as, unlike RTÉ, the BBC has no mandate to provide coverage within Ireland. In this regard, my understanding is that, to date, the BBC has expressed no interest in being carried on SAORVIEW. Notwithstanding, BBC programming is freely available throughout Ireland over satellite and is also available in border areas via terrestrial TV overspill from the UK and Northern Ireland. Additionally, BBC is available on pay TV platforms in Ireland.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=81250482

dohboy

The Cush wrote: »

Not correct, discussed here in the forum previously and raised in the Dáil. The BBC aren't interested in providing their channels to Saorview and there is no requirement for them to do so on a FTA basis in the MoU. Also they expressed no interest when the BAI advertised the spare capacity on the PSB muxes in 2011.

A shame to let the truth get in the way of a myopic rant.

OldRio

Biffo The Bare wrote: »

I agree with OP. It may seem like a small point, but its the accumulation of all these small points that is annoying to RTE's customer base.

-No Premier League highlights this year.

I and many people I know (some of the RTE customer base you write about)
think having no Premier League highlights is a step in the right direction.

iseegirls

Flip Flop wrote: »

Why would they bother spending extra money showing an episode of Reeling In the Years which has been shown a million times already. That would be wasting your €160.

If you look at the ratings next week for Reeling in The Years, you'll see that probably all 5 showings will be in the Top 20 for the week. It is an incredibly popular show and there is a reason why it has been shown on RTE every summer for a number of years when the news is cut down to half an hour.

Skerries

I would like another series of it where they show other things that happened in the same years but obviously not the highlights already done

Biffo The Bare

dohboy wrote: »

A shame to let the truth get in the way of a myopic rant.

Ok. Here we go again.;)
It was announced in 2010 that BBC 1 & 2 NI would be available Free to air on the Saorview platform reciprocated by RTE and TG4 being available Free to Air on the Northern Irish Freeview service. Ryan and NI Secretary of State Ben Bradshaw shook hands and the announcement and photo-opportunities appeared in the Irish Independent and Irish Times the following morning.
It also appeared on Ryan's Green Party website and The Dept. Of Communications website.
Then mysteriously:rolleyes: a few days later, the text was slightly changed on Ryan's website and the DCENR website. "Free to Air" became "On A Paid For Basis" and then Ryan started bulls**ting his way out of it for the next few months.
Are you denying this happened?

The Cush

Biffo The Bare wrote: »

Are you denying this happened?

The MoU doesn't prevent the BBC making them available on Saorview.

It will be a commercial decision for them, the DTT multiplexing tariff would be a cost with no revenue generated here thru advertising or share of a subscription fee to offset the cost of being on Saorview.

I believe both UPC and Sky pay a fee per Irish subscriber to BBC's commercial arm, BBC Worldwide, to make the channels available here so why would they provide them to Saorview at a financial loss to themselves?

Biffo The Bare

The Cush wrote: »

The MoU doesn't prevent the BBC making them available on Saorview.

It will be a commercial decision for them, the DTT multiplexing tariff would be a cost with no revenue generated here thru advertising or share of a subscription fee to offset the cost of being on Saorview.

I believe both UPC and Sky pay a fee per Irish subscriber to BBC's commercial arm, BBC Worldwide, to make the channels available here so why would they provide them to Saorview at a financial loss to themselves?

You are answering a different question to the one I asked.
You may as well have answered with "The bike is parked outside"

carrolls

Biffo The Bare wrote: »

Ok. Here we go again.;)
It was announced in 2010 that BBC 1 & 2 NI would be available Free to air on the Saorview platform reciprocated by RTE and TG4 being available Free to Air on the Northern Irish Freeview service. Ryan and NI Secretary of State Ben Bradshaw shook hands and the announcement and photo-opportunities appeared in the Irish Independent and Irish Times the following morning.
It also appeared on Ryan's Green Party website and The Dept. Of Communications website.
Then mysteriously:rolleyes: a few days later, the text was slightly changed on Ryan's website and the DCENR website. "Free to Air" became "On A Paid For Basis" and then Ryan started bulls**ting his way out of it for the next few months.
Are you denying this happened?

Thanks for the reminder. I remember that thread.:D

Digifriendly

Biffo The Bare wrote: »

Ok. Here we go again.;)
It was announced in 2010 that BBC 1 & 2 NI would be available Free to air on the Saorview platform reciprocated by RTE and TG4 being available Free to Air on the Northern Irish Freeview service. Ryan and NI Secretary of State Ben Bradshaw shook hands and the announcement and photo-opportunities appeared in the Irish Independent and Irish Times the following morning. It also appeared on Ryan's Green Party website and The Dept. Of Communications website.

NI has never had a Secretary of State by the name of Ben Bradshaw. Ben Bradshaw was UK Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport at the time.

Biffo The Bare

Digifriendly wrote: »

NI has never had a Secretary of State by the name of Ben Bradshaw. Ben Bradshaw was UK Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport at the time.

Thanks for really adding to the discussion. You must be proud of that contribution. I would be.:eek:

Digifriendly

Biffo The Bare wrote: »

Thanks for really adding to the discussion. You must be proud of that contribution. I would be.:eek:

Just ensuring facts are right that's all.

icdg

Okay, it seems like every post in this thread - including for that matter the OP - has been about something other than the thread title. I see the existence of RTÉ, the value of the licence fee, Premier League rights, the UK-Irish MOU, and even the positions of UK cabinet ministers being discussed here, but I don't think anyone wants to talk about why Reeling in the Years isn't on RTÉ One + 1 (rights issues). There's enough material here for a couple of threads but maybe if people want to discuss them (and do so civilly) they can do so either by starting new threads or contributing to existing ones.

If someone really wants to talk about Reeling in the Years, feel free to start a new thread. Nobody in this thread seems to want to, though.