Preserved Diesels

Conorman25

Hello I am new to the board , I wanted to start of with asking a few questions on what diesel locos does the RPSI own and where they are based at present, are they in working order


Another question would be the same as above but with the ITG

Look forward to all the replies

Conor

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I'll try to do this one.

The RPSI have 134, 141, 142 and 175. All are stopped but should still be functional with a little TLC. All in Inchicore except for 142 which is at their base in Whitehead.

The ITG have:

003 (A3R): Stored at Moyasta with a faulty cooling fan but otherwise functional.
039 (A39): In service at Downpatrick
103 (B103): Stored at Carrick-on-Suir. Needs serious work
124: Stored at Moyasta. Stopped but should be functional.
146: In service at Downpatrick
152: Stored at Moyasta. Cabs partially disassembled but could be reinstated.
190: Stored at Moyasta. Stopped but should be functional.
C226: Stored at Carrick-on-Suir. Under rebuild since 1992, engine was started recently
C231: Stored at Moyasta. Needs some work, not sure how much
G601: Stored at Carrick-on-Suir. Needs serious work. New engine purchased recently.
G611: In service at Downpatrick
G616: Stored at Carrick-on-Suir. Under rebuild.
G617: In service at Downpatrick

Conorman25

Karsini wrote: »

I'll try to do this one.

The RPSI have 134, 141, 142 and 175. All are stopped but should still be functional with a little TLC. All in Inchicore except for 142 which is at their base in Whitehead.

The ITG have:

003 (A3R): Stored at Moyasta with a faulty cooling fan but otherwise functional.
039 (A39): In service at Downpatrick
103 (B103): Stored at Carrick-on-Suir. Needs serious work
124: Stored at Moyasta. Stopped but should be functional.
146: In service at Downpatrick
152: Stored at Moyasta. Cabs partially disassembled but could be reinstated.
190: Stored at Moyasta. Stopped but should be functional.
C226: Stored at Carrick-on-Suir. Under rebuild since 1992, engine was started recently
C231: Stored at Moyasta. Needs some work, not sure how much
G601: Stored at Carrick-on-Suir. Needs serious work. New engine purchased recently.
G611: In service at Downpatrick
G616: Stored at Carrick-on-Suir. Under rebuild.
G617: In service at Downpatrick

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Karsini many thanks for that information , never knew the RPSI had 4 locos brilliant stuff is there any truth that they had been looking for a new base other than Inchicore .I had heard Dundalk had been one location that had been talked about

corktina

re C226...work is on-going on the engine and at the same time the spare engine is being inspected in case it might be more effective to use that engine. A large portion of the accessible side of the loco is now painted in a similar livery to the recent repaints of the 071 class :-)


PS more volunteers welcome...(I'm a new boy myself and enjoying myself immensely

Captain Chaos

Thought 142 was a regular shunter for the RPSI at Whitehead. There are recent enough youtube clips of her in action around the base.

Conorman25

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Thought 142 was a regular shunter for the RPSI at Whitehead. There are recent enough youtube clips of her in action around the base.

I have been down a few times to Whitehead lately and 142 is not in working order ,one of the guys had said something to do with the wrong oil was put in the engine down there and it has done some harmful damage , I don't know anymore other than that , they also said theres no interest either in it from some of the guys there, which I thought strange as it would be a great loco for shunting the site, whats the future plans for the other 3 locos 141 .. 175.. 134, the guys at Whitehead said they don't know as its upto the Dublin guys as they are based there, also they knew there was another 1 or 2 locos saved but didn't know the numbers of them I would say they mean 175 & 134

Niles

Conorman25 wrote: »

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Karsini many thanks for that information , never knew the RPSI had 4 locos brilliant stuff is there any truth that they had been looking for a new base other than Inchicore .I had heard Dundalk had been one location that had been talked about

As mentioned in newsletters, Dundalk was considered as a carriage storage facility/possible museum but not as a operational base - too far from Dublin.

TheBody

Do the RPSI do any restoration in Mullingar?

flyingsnail

TheBody wrote: »

Do the RPSI do any restoration in Mullingar?

Yes

TheBody

flyingsnail wrote: »

Yes

I might volunteer there. Any idea of the work currently taking place there?

Losty Dublin

Karsini wrote: »

I'll try to do this one.

The RPSI have 134, 141, 142 and 175. All are stopped but should still be functional with a little TLC. All in Inchicore except for 142 which is at their base in Whitehead.

The ITG have:

003 (A3R): Stored at Moyasta with a faulty cooling fan but otherwise functional.
039 (A39): In service at Downpatrick
103 (B103): Stored at Carrick-on-Suir. Needs serious work
124: Stored at Moyasta. Stopped but should be functional.
146: In service at Downpatrick
152: Stored at Moyasta. Cabs partially disassembled but could be reinstated.
190: Stored at Moyasta. Stopped but should be functional.
C226: Stored at Carrick-on-Suir. Under rebuild since 1992, engine was started recently
C231: Stored at Moyasta. Needs some work, not sure how much
G601: Stored at Carrick-on-Suir. Needs serious work. New engine purchased recently.
G611: In service at Downpatrick
G616: Stored at Carrick-on-Suir. Under rebuild.
G617: In service at Downpatrick

To add, the RPSI have ex Comhucht Suicre Eireann Ruston and ex irish Shell loco 23; both are on site in Whitehead and currently unused. Unilok shunter is in traffic though rarely used. It lives in the museum at Cultra along with ex NIR Hunslet 102, "Falcon" which is now preserved for show.

Ex Irish Rail A 15 is preserved in Moyasta while ex Irish Rail B 113 is in Cultra.

flyingsnail

TheBody wrote: »

I might volunteer there. Any idea of the work currently taking place there?

BR van 3173 is currenty undergoing overhaul. If you would like to volunteer the best point of contact would be "Carriage & Wagon (Dublin), the contact details are on the bottom of every email bulletin.

corktina

corktina wrote: »

re C226...work is on-going on the engine and at the same time the spare engine is being inspected in case it might be more effective to use that engine. A large portion of the accessible side of the loco is now painted in a similar livery to the recent repaints of the 071 class :-)


PS more volunteers welcome...(I'm a new boy myself and enjoying myself immensely

That's interesting about the engine. The previous engine has a crack in the block so I didn't think it would have been much use.

To me, RPSI only appear to care about steam so I'm not surprised that there's no interest in the GMs.

Conorman25

Karsini wrote: »

That's interesting about the engine. The previous engine has a crack in the block so I didn't think it would have been much use.

To me, RPSI only appear to care about steam so I'm not surprised that there's no interest in the GMs.

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I have to agree that the RPSI would be more about steam rather than diesels the thing I find so strange is why have they saved 4 diesels locos but don't make use of them or have future plans, I might be be wrong about future plans for them ,


This might be a silly idea but would these locos be better put to good use if they were to be put on long term loan to say DCDR saying that mybe DCDR don't have space for them at present.

corktina

Karsini wrote: »

That's interesting about the engine. The previous engine has a crack in the block so I didn't think it would have been much use.

To me, RPSI only appear to care about steam so I'm not surprised that there's no interest in the GMs.

the spare engine has a welded repair to what I'd call a bracket that holds the camshaft, that's what is being looked at...assessing the weld quality.

RPSI have at least secured the engines for the future. Rome wasn't built in a day

DCDR have enough diesels to go on with I suspect.

dregin

corktina wrote: »

PS more volunteers welcome...(I'm a new boy myself and enjoying myself immensely

I think I saw you mention you were down at Inchicore. I'm living in Kilmainham, so it would just be a stroll up the road from me.

I'd be interested in getting invovled. I assume I'd have to join the ITG for insurance purposes. Are there clothing requirements too? i.e. steel toe working boots.

Thanks

corktina

not me, ITG seem to have got the bums rush out of Inchicore. RPSI have a team there with their diesels so it seems.


ITG are in Carrick on Suir, Moyasta junction and at the DCDR

Losty Dublin

corktina wrote: »

RPSI have a team there with their diesels so it seems.

RPSI have two teams working on carriages in Inchicore.

Losty Dublin

Conorman25 wrote: »

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I have to agree that the RPSI would be more about steam rather than diesels the thing I find so strange is why have they saved 4 diesels locos but don't make use of them or have future plans, I might be be wrong about future plans for them ,


This might be a silly idea but would these locos be better put to good use if they were to be put on long term loan to say DCDR saying that mybe DCDR don't have space for them at present.

All the RPSI diesel engines were either gifted to them or purchased via special fundraising drives so in essense it hasn't cost anything to buy them. There are tentative plans to run them in the future subject to time, money and manpower but for now the priority is to keep the steam fleet in traffic, they being the main draw to the general public.

flyingsnail

The RPSI main focus is steam and will continue to be so, this is largely due to commercial realities. The majority of the RPSI income comes from selling steam trips to the public, joe public doesn’t really care what steam engine is up top as long as its a steam engine. Enthusiasts here are very much in the minority, and most enthusiast orientated trips rely heavily on UK based enthusiasts to make up numbers.

As volunteers we mostly work one day a week, so that’s 1 day in 7 where something can be done and priority must be given to revenue earning stock, in this case steam. While it may seem like nothing is happening on the diesel front things are progressing albeit slowly. As with many things, future plans progress slowly in the background.

cbl593h

Losty Dublin wrote: »

All the RPSI diesel engines were either gifted to them or purchased via special fundraising drives so in essense it hasn't cost anything to buy them. There are tentative plans to run them in the future subject to time, money and manpower but for now the priority is to keep the steam fleet in traffic, they being the main draw to the general public.

While indeed the public want steam end of, surely it's not unfair to say that there must be some disappointed benefactors if they bought into working condition locomotives that are now broken or that the RPSI are not interested in using.

Not a dig, just an observation.

Losty Dublin

cbl593h wrote: »

While indeed the public want steam end of, surely it's not unfair to say that there must be some disappointed benefactors if they bought into working condition locomotives that are now broken or that the RPSI are not interested in using.

Not a dig, just an observation.

Those involved with the diesel purchases are aware that the engines will not be in traffic for a long time. They know what the story is

BuffyBot

I've just had to perform surgery on this thread. Folks, you know the worst thing to do with a troll is to feed it.

Cookie_Monster

Honest question and not trying to have a dig at anyone but how did the wrong type of oil end up in the loco in the first place?
Seems a careless thing to happen and potentially could have caused a huge amount of damage if not sorted quickly.

Temp101

Cookie Monster, that seems a little harsh to me. Given the number of oils encountered in railway preservation (especially at a site with mixed steam and diesel) I wouldn't say it was the first time someone got mixed up and I dare say it won't be the last. People do make mistakes, and at least this one was caught without doing any lasting damage.

corktina

having recently filled 226s sump, I was a bit surprised that there was enough oil on hand to put the wrong stuff in. Presumably the wrong stuff was ordered