Mod issue

lala88

Biz mod dudara i have found to be very bias when it comes to his jobs. Will comment on issues that suit him but will ignore others. Prime example giving warnings about attacks on posters who dont agree with his view wile others who do agree with his view nothing is said to them.

Says to send him PM is there is a problem but when one is sent its ignored.

Another mod iv had issues with is rebelgirl on the GAA form. She is clearly bias when it comes to matters to do with Cork GAA, and much like dudara will act on comments she doesnt agree with but will let people who do agree with her say anything. When i raised the issue the others mods just played dumb and claimed they didnt notice anything despite the fact itd very clearly happening

lala88

41 0s wrote: »

His name was lala88.

Complaining in Feedback, that's a paddling. 3 Mods in Recent Visitors to profile page....expect your name here, soon.

Strange how someone with only one posts knows so much about the site, i wonder why that is....

returnNull

might want to show some examples.

returnNull

lala88 wrote: »

Strange how someone with only one posts knows so much about the site, i wonder why that is....

looks like a re-reg troll but did you report the post?Mods arent omnipotent....

Nody

returnNull wrote: »

looks like a re-reg troll but did you report the post?Mods arent omnipotent....

Since when did we get nerfed?!

Tom Dunne

One of the first things I always do when faced with a complaint, whether it is here or at work, for example, is to look for context. The context in this case are the Mods themselves and yourself.

Having been involved in the selection process for Mods, I can say it is reasonably robust, as good as we can get it. All Mods, believe it or not, are human and on occasion have a bad day or make mistakes. So despite what you think, we are receptive to potential issues with Mods, Cmods and Admins. Hence the discussion we are having here.

At this point, I usually take into account the poster's history and I can't help but notice the extensive rap sheet you have. The odd infraction here or there is fine, but you appear to be having a lot of issues, especially on the GAA forum.

So, at what point does personal responsibility come into your thoughts about the manner in which you conduct yourself on this site? Genuine question, btw. I'm not having a go at you.

returnNull

Nody wrote: »

Since when did we get nerfed?!

did Dav not mention it ??:pac:

lala88

Tom Dunne wrote: »

One of the first things I always do when faced with a complaint, whether it is here or at work, for example, is to look for context. The context in this case are the Mods themselves and yourself.

Having been involved in the selection process for Mods, I can say it is reasonably robust, as good as we can get it. All Mods, believe it or not, are human and on occasion have a bad day or make mistakes. So despite what you think, we are receptive to potential issues with Mods, Cmods and Admins. Hence the discussion we are having here.

At this point, I usually take into account the poster's history and I can't help but notice the extensive rap sheet you have. The odd infraction here or there is fine, but you appear to be having a lot of issues, especially on the GAA forum.

So, at what point does personal responsibility come into your thoughts about the manner in which you conduct yourself on this site? Genuine question, btw. I'm not having a go at you.

As i said the GAA forum is a prime example, more over in the Cork thread. The mod rebelgirl will let posters say anything they like about Cork county board officials, Cork management teams etc aslong as its negative but once someone disagrees with her she'll act on it. How ever if someone makes negative comments Cork players she'll act on that as he doesnt agree or want negative comments said about players.

Another example when players were dropped from the Cork hurling panel by JBM she said it was him making his mark on the panel and agree with others who said they same, but when the same thing was done by another manager she said he was wrong and let others comment as they wished as along as it was negative and gave out bans to people who disagreed with her.

Another example in another forum is in the Jobs one. Mod Eoin sets up a thread where people can post about jobs and can post them. He bans agencies or organisations and says its just for established boards.ie users. And to not sign up just to post a vacancy here. He himself posts more jobs then anyone for the company he works for yet claims he has nothing to do with recruitment within the company. It seems strange to me that someone who has nothing to do with recruitment would be so keen on posting up sp many jobs

returnNull

lala88 wrote: »

As i said the GAA forum is a prime example, more over in the Cork thread. The mod rebelgirl will let posters say anything they like about Cork county board officials, Cork management teams etc aslong as its negative but once someone disagrees with her she'll act on it. How ever if someone makes negative comments Cork players she'll act on that as he doesnt agree or want negative comments said about players.

Another example when players were dropped from the Cork hurling panel by JBM she said it was him making his mark on the panel and agree with others who said they same, but when the same thing was done by another manager she said he was wrong and let others comment as they wished as along as it was negative and gave out bans to people who disagreed with her.

could you link to the posts/threads?At a guess I'd say the mods would be acting on charter infringements or possibly tackling defamation or other legal sh1te

He himself posts more jobs then anyone for the company he works for yet claims he has nothing to do with recruitment within the company. It seems strange to me that someone who has nothing to do with recruitment would be so keen on posting up sp many jobs

And why would people post about jobs in a company they dont work for?And as for posting available jobs(which is a nice thing to do is it not esp. in a recession?)is sound and is one of the plus's of being a member of boards .

Cabaal

You've not posted any links to any examples, you've only posted your view on a situation.

From what I've seen on consumer issues you've ignored mod warnings on thread and then questioned a mod decision on thread, in fairness you're on boards.ie long enough to know not to start questioning a mod on thread when a warning is given.

In fairness if I start questioning a mod on thread or ignored a mod warning I would be treated no different

padd b1975

Very shoddy moderating from rebel girl here, clinical piece of ass handing from poster Stinicker...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80449713&postcount=277


http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80449855&postcount=281


What makes her petty little dig worse is that she posted in the Kerry discussion thread for maximum impact.

Not very cool moderation.

Cabaal

Ok, so since nobody's asked it yet,

OP have you followed the dispute resolution process or did you just create this thread as a witch hunt by nit picking specific posts?

padd b1975

Cabaal wrote: »

Ok, so since nobody's asked it yet,

OP have you followed the dispute resolution process or did you just create this thread as a witch hunt by nit picking specific posts?[/QUOTE]



How do you expect to be provided with examples without posters doing this??

lala88

returnNull wrote: »

could you link to the posts/threads?At a guess I'd say the mods would be acting on charter infringements or possibly tackling defamation or other legal sh1te


And why would people post about jobs in a company they dont work for?And as for posting available jobs(which is a nice thing to do is it not esp. in a recession?)is sound and is one of the plus's of being a member of boards .

I just said its on the GAA forum in the Cork thread.

For for the jobs thread This is not for agencies or organisations - just for established boards.ie users. Do not sign up just to post a vacancy here. this is first ''rule'' seems to me he doesn't want people who are working within a company to post jobs. To me someone who posts as many jobs as he has is doing it for there own interest and not to be ''sound'' and at the end of the day whos going to stop him?

Dades

Cabaal wrote: »

Ok, so since nobody's asked it yet,

OP have you followed the dispute resolution process or did you just create this thread as a witch hunt by nit picking specific posts?

The DR process is only to appeal individual cards/bans.

General gripes (such as this) about particular moderators really belong in Help Desk.

lala88

Cabaal wrote: »

Ok, so since nobody's asked it yet,

OP have you followed the dispute resolution process or did you just create this thread as a witch hunt by nit picking specific posts?

I highlighted it with another mod and the forum but as i said they just played dumb and claimed it wasnt happening even after showing examples of this.

Even if you look at it now you'll see example of it, the poster ShamoBuc being one of the main ones whos let say what he likes as he agrees with rebelgirls views

returnNull

lala88 wrote: »

I just said its on the GAA forum in the Cork thread.

thats not the way it works,thats your job to present the context of your feedback,Im not going trawling through forums

For for the jobs thread This is not for agencies or organisations - just for established boards.ie users. Do not sign up just to post a vacancy here. this is first ''rule'' seems to me he doesn't want people who are working within a company to post jobs. To me someone who posts as many jobs as he has is doing it for there own interest and not to be ''sound'' and at the end of the day whos going to stop him?

I think you're getting this wrong,that thread doesnt want to be spammed by agencies or a HR dept.

tbh honest I think you're on a witch hunt

lala88

returnNull wrote: »

thats not the way it works,thats your job to present the context of your feedback,Im not going trawling through forums


I think you're getting this wrong,that thread doesnt want to be spammed by agencies or a HR dept.

tbh honest I think you're on a witch hunt

nor am i. its there for you to see if your really that worried. iv shown you an example of it already anyway

like i said i find it strange that someone who claims to have nothing to do with recruitment or HR would be posting up so many jobs and not get anything out of it themselves

lala88

Cabaal wrote: »

You've not posted any links to any examples, you've only posted your view on a situation.

From what I've seen on consumer issues you've ignored mod warnings on thread and then questioned a mod decision on thread, in fairness you're on boards.ie long enough to know not to start questioning a mod on thread when a warning is given.

In fairness if I start questioning a mod on thread or ignored a mod warning I would be treated no different

Why should a mod not have to answer questions if there being bias on a matter? or ignoring others who are doing the same thing there giving out warnings to others for?

Dades

lala88 wrote: »

like i said i find it strange that someone who claims to have nothing to do with recruitment or HR would be posting up so many jobs and not get anything out of it themselves

Sometimes people do things not to get anything out it themselves.

Mimikyu

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returnNull

lala88 wrote: »

nor am i. its there for you to see if your really that worried. iv shown you an example of it already anyway

wanna know what I think ? I think you've been on the recieving end for breaking forum charters and now you wanna p1ss and moan about the mods,because without examples(provided by yourself) thats the way it comes across.

Overheal

It would probably behoof you to give examples.

You said the GAA forum. Didn't give the courtesy to link there, for one. Said it was "in the Cork thread" which I assume is the "Cork GAA Discussion Thread" with over 3,700 posts in it.

"Hi yes, I ordered 10 haystacks from you and I found a needle in one of them.."

You know whats a lot easier to trawl through than that? the 997 posts of a disgruntled user. And the people who would end up doing it won't be happy you wasted their time. Frankly.

Especially because you're wasting it in feedback. This is the desert. This is Arrakis. And you are the Thumper and the admin is the Sandworm. Should you continue stomping around or do you not think its a bit more cordial to just give in and provide specific examples?

/Im on a rock.

Beasty

The OP is permanently banned from the GAA Forum, and I would firstly ask why they chose not to contest this ban but instead start a Feedback thread several weeks later?

Of course being permabanned they have to log out to view the forum - perhaps that's why the have struggled to find examples, so let me help

Let's start here

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Do not post in this thread for the rest of the month.
If you return and continue to post the way you have been, you will be banned for a long time.

Oh no how will i cope? People are already blaming the county board for it but sure just ignore that like mods do with everything they dont agree with....

Then there was this one

Not doing a very good job as a mod if you missed that. But then again you most likely agree with that and just so happened to miss it...

followed up by this one

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Ah sorry, did miss it, I only skimmed the posts - thanks for pointing it out, use the report post function next time please!!! Don't try and derail the threads, and if you have a problem with the way I moderate, you are free to take it further, but don't use these threads for any personal agenda you may have against me and derail it for the rest of those people who post on here!!

Seems to me if your a mod you should be doing more then ''skim'' posts, im sure you have an excuse for why thats all you do.... Dont see why i should be reporting posts when its supposed to be your job..

I have reported the way you ''moderate'' but surprise surprise nothing was done. Funny how other mobs claim not not notice there follow mobs being bias, i wonder why that is....

3 different GAA mods have either infracted or banned you and it seems pretty clear to me (supported by a couple of Admins who have posted about you in the GAA mods forum) that the problem lies with you and your approach to mods both in GAA and other forums

Overheal

People with the 'its not my problem its your problem' attitude.

Its delusional to think mods read every post. Its never been a requirement. If you have issues with posts, report them. Simple as. Mods are people not robots, reports direct their attention to potential hotspots in the forum that need attention, they don't have the time or capability to process through everything that is posted. The report post button is there to be used, just like 999 is there to be dialed, its not the emergency service's onus to telepathically infer you might be experiencing a heart failure. Neither can you sue them for your death because you didn't alert them, anymore than you can fault moderators for not responding to issues they were never alerted to.

Nothing to see here. If you're upset about your ban post a dispute in DRP as instructed in your ban message.

Beasty

I would add that in some sports forums it is virtually impossible to keep up with certain threads (particularly match threads where you can have several very busy ones running simultaneously). Mods are heavily reliant on reported posts. You cannot be expected to read the 1000+ posts that some sports forums can attract in a day

dudara

lala88 - I replied to your PM today. I was remiss in responding to it, and I apologise for that.

As I explained in my PM to you, I hope that I am perceived as unbiased in my moderating. I generally tend not to intervene unless someone is blatently trolling, or until I have received several Reported Posts on the matter. Let's just say that you have been reported more than once. This is the opinion of the Boards community, not me. I act on their reports.

I called you out last night, as you persisted in attacking a single poster. I don't know what grievance you may have with that poster, but I did not want it being pulled into discussions.

Zaph

What I'm seeing here is a thread started by someone with 7 infractions and 11 forum bans handed out by 9 different mods across 6 forums and one category. So to claim persecution by one or two named mods is missing the mark somewhat when it completely avoids the issue of the OP's general behaviour on the site. There is only one person posting on this thread with a credibility problem, and people with better overall records than the OP's have found themselves sitebanned due to their persistent inability to not act the dick. So OP I would suggest that you cop on and start playing by the same rules that 99.9% of posters on this site have no problem adhering to, or you'll find yourself needing to find some other site to post on.

lala88

Beasty wrote: »

The OP is permanently banned from the GAA Forum, and I would firstly ask why they chose not to contest this ban but instead start a Feedback thread several weeks later?

Of course being permabanned they have to log out to view the forum - perhaps that's why the have struggled to find examples, so let me help

Let's start here

Then there was this one

followed up by this one


3 different GAA mods have either infracted or banned you and it seems pretty clear to me (supported by a couple of Admins who have posted about you in the GAA mods forum) that the problem lies with you and your approach to mods both in GAA and other forums

Not doing a very good job as a mod if you missed that. But then again you most likely agree with that and just so happened to miss it...


funny how you didnt say anything about the post thats related to, a prime example of rebelgirls bias on matters

lala88

Overheal wrote: »

It would probably behoof you to give examples.

You said the GAA forum. Didn't give the courtesy to link there, for one. Said it was "in the Cork thread" which I assume is the "Cork GAA Discussion Thread" with over 3,700 posts in it.

"Hi yes, I ordered 10 haystacks from you and I found a needle in one of them.."

You know whats a lot easier to trawl through than that? the 997 posts of a disgruntled user. And the people who would end up doing it won't be happy you wasted their time. Frankly.

Especially because you're wasting it in feedback. This is the desert. This is Arrakis. And you are the Thumper and the admin is the Sandworm. Should you continue stomping around or do you not think its a bit more cordial to just give in and provide specific examples?

/Im on a rock.

Iv shown 2 example of it but you and others seem to have ignored this. There are plenty of examples of it there for you to see or is it your scared incase you might be wrong?

lala88

Beasty wrote: »

I would add that in some sports forums it is virtually impossible to keep up with certain threads (particularly match threads where you can have several very busy ones running simultaneously). Mods are heavily reliant on reported posts. You cannot be expected to read the 1000+ posts that some sports forums can attract in a day

there job is to moderate is it not? not to get other people to do it for them?

lala88

returnNull wrote: »

wanna know what I think ? I think you've been on the recieving end for breaking forum charters and now you wanna p1ss and moan about the mods,because without examples(provided by yourself) thats the way it comes across.

Iv shown you example but you've ignored them, also like i said if it worries you so much you and go look yourself

lala88

Overheal wrote: »

People with the 'its not my problem its your problem' attitude.

Its delusional to think mods read every post. Its never been a requirement. If you have issues with posts, report them. Simple as. Mods are people not robots, reports direct their attention to potential hotspots in the forum that need attention, they don't have the time or capability to process through everything that is posted. The report post button is there to be used, just like 999 is there to be dialed, its not the emergency service's onus to telepathically infer you might be experiencing a heart failure. Neither can you sue them for your death because you didn't alert them, anymore than you can fault moderators for not responding to issues they were never alerted to.

Nothing to see here. If you're upset about your ban post a dispute in DRP as instructed in your ban message.

Why is it then you see the same mod acting on the same kind of posts by themselves? They just so happen to see the ones they disagree with is it?

There are plenty of examples more over in the consumer forum for it, plenty of company's that mods have issues with and will let anything negative said about them but when someone tries to tell the other side there told there wrong or a boards favorite they work with the company, yet boards have no problem talking money from the same company's for ads

endacl

Beasty wrote: »

this one

^^
Interesting parapraxis in that last quoted bit! Is somebody feeling a little persecuted by a mob of mods?

Insect Overlord

The word is "biased".

lala88

Insect Overlord wrote: »

The word is "biased".

great comeback.....

returnNull

lala88 wrote: »

Iv shown you example but you've ignored them, also like i said if it worries you so much you and go look yourself

you make the claims,you back it up.Its not fukking rocket science.

You havent shown any example of mod bias.

lala88

returnNull wrote: »

you make the claims,you back it up.Its not fukking rocket science.

You havent shown any example of mod bias.

can you not read? i showed you where she was being bias in 2 examples on 2 matters. like iv told you for the third time now its there for you to see it. you seem very worried about this, in fact you sound a lot like rebelgirl who when someone says something she doesn't like will keep asking for examples, but im sure thats just a coincidence...

returnNull

lala88 wrote: »

can you not read? i showed you where she was being bias in 2 examples on 2 matters. like iv told you for the third time now its there for you to see it. you seem very worried about this, in fact you sound a lot like rebelgirl who when someone says something she doesn't like will keep asking for examples, but im sure thats just a coincidence...

lol

lala88

returnNull wrote: »

lol

how did you come up with such a great reply like that?

returnNull

lala88 wrote: »

how did you come up with such a great reply like that?

go away,you're showing your true colour's now...

lala88

returnNull wrote: »

go away,you're showing your true colour's now...

another comment very much like rebelgirl, then again the same can be said for alot of boards posters there ''you dont agree with me so im not talking to you anymore''

oscarBravo

If this thread hasn't transformed from a whingefest into some useful feedback by tomorrow morning, I'll be locking it - if it's still open by then.

lala88

oscarBravo wrote: »

If this thread hasn't transformed from a whingefest into some useful feedback by tomorrow morning, I'll be locking it - if it's still open by then.

oh look a mod on a power trip what a surprise. does it make you feel like a big man when you lock threads?

fussyonion

Finding it hard to read so much text-speak, OP.

returnNull

fussyonion wrote: »

Finding it hard to read so much text-speak, OP.

don't think its text speak,just bad english.

darced

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Zaph

lala88 wrote: »

oh look a mod on a power trip what a surprise. does it make you feel like a big man when you lock threads?

It doesn't make me feel like a big man, but I'm fed up reading your nonsense so I'm going to lock it anyway. If you have something useful and constructive to say then we genuinely would like to hear it, but getting arsey with other posters because you're not getting your own way isn't the way to approach things.