Ceart??

tony stark

An bhfuil na abairt a leanas ceart no ní ceart? Go raibh maith agat!

Tá siad ábhar an spéisiúl agus tá cinniúint á usaid iomlánaigh i ceol agus stair.
Credim go bhfuil sé an-tábhachtach a labhairt i rith an lá mar tá sé spréagúil . Rachaidh siad i bhfeabhas nuair a cloiseadh siad focail as gaeilge gach lá chomh maith.
Tá ullmhú is fear nuair a bhínn mé ag labairt gach lá.

Insect Overlord

tony stark wrote: »

An bhfuil na abairt a leanas ceart no ní ceart? Go raibh maith agat!

Tá siad ábhar an spéisiúl agus tá cinniúint á usaid iomlánaigh i ceol agus stair.
Credim go bhfuil sé an-tábhachtach a labhairt i rith an lá mar tá sé spréagúil . Rachaidh siad i bhfeabhas nuair a cloiseadh siad focail as gaeilge gach lá chomh maith.
Tá ullmhú is fear nuair a bhínn mé ag labairt gach lá.

Níl siad ceart ar chor ar bith! :eek:

Cad ba mhaith leat a rá, as Béarla?

tony stark

Didnt realise Id let my Irish go this bad!!! Trying to say...
They are interesting subjects and there is a chance for integration with music and history.
I believe its important to speak it during the day because it is encouraging. They will improve when they hear Irish words every day. Preparation is what will help me to speak on each topic.
Go raibh maith agat

Insect Overlord

tony stark wrote: »

Didnt realise Id let my Irish go this bad!!! Trying to say...
They are interesting subjects and there is a chance for integration with music and history.
I believe its important to speak it during the day because it is encouraging. They will improve when they hear Irish words every day. Preparation is what will help me to speak on each topic.
Go raibh maith agat

I'd say it should be something more like this so:

Is ábhair suimiúla iad agus tá an deis ann idirdhealú a dhéanamh le Ceol agus le Stair.
Creidim go bhfuil sé an-tábhachtach í a labhairt i rith an lae toisc go mbíonn an cleachtadh sin spreagúil.
Rachaidh siad i bhfeabhas nuair a cloisfidh siad focail Gaeilge chuile lá. Is é an t-ullmhúchán an príomhrud a cabhróidh liom gach topaic a phlé.

The above may not be 100% correct though, so wait for confirmation before using it in writing.

Gumbi

Rachaidh siad i bhfeabhas nuair a cloisfidh siad focail Gaeilge chuile lá.

It should be "a chl..." but I'm not confident I how it's phrased. It doesn't sound right to use the future tense for something that you are saying WILL occur every day. I would use the conditional as something qualify it.

Rachaidh siad i bhfeabhas má chloiseann siad focail Gaeilge chuile lá.

Also, it should be "a cHabhróidh...". Am on phone, apologies for formatting and potential striking of autocorrect

Oh, and did you look up integration and accidentally use differentiation? :P Idirdhealú a dhéanamh means to differentiate between things (not necessarily mathematical) . I would suggest simply using "ceangal" in this case.

Insect Overlord

Gumbi wrote: »

Oh, and did you look up integration and accidentally use differentiation? :P Idirdhealú a dhéanamh means to differentiate between things (not necessarily mathematical) . I would suggest simply using "ceangal" in this case.

I didn't look it up, but it was the first word that came back to me from Teaching Practice! :P

"Chomhtháthú" is the official word for integration in an educational context. Used with the réamhfhocal "le".

Gumbi

Insect Overlord wrote: »

I didn't look it up, but it was the first word that came back to me from Teaching Practice! :P

"Chomhtháthú" is the official word for integration in an educational context. Used with the réamhfhocal "le".

Ah, no bother.

Insect Overlord

Gumbi wrote: »

Ah, no bother.

I should have looked it up, in fairness.

pog it

Re 'focail Gaeilge' as above.

I'm a little rusty on some of my grammar at the mo but should this not be 'focail Ghaeilge' with the séimhiú due to the consan caol and plural of the leading noun?

Gumbi

pog it wrote: »

Re 'focail Gaeilge' as above.

I'm a little rusty on some of my grammar at the mo but should this not be 'focail Ghaeilge' with the séimhiú due to the consan caol and plural of the leading noun?

I thought of this, but I'm not sure it applies when the genitive is involved. Again, I could be wrong, but that was my initial thought.

Focail mhóra...but focail Gaeilge.

pog it

Gumbi wrote: »

I thought of this, but I'm not sure it applies when the genitive is involved. Again, I could be wrong, but that was my initial thought.

Focail mhóra...but focail Gaeilge.

I'm not sure that is the case. I don't have my grammar books but I have access to a free chapter on adjectives from ranganna.com and there is a section on this:

Séimhítear aidiacht san iolra, áfach, nuair leanann sé ainmfhocal a chríochnaíonn ar chonsan caol, fiú nuair a bhíonn na litreacha d, n, t, l, s ag teacht le chéile ag deireadh an ainmfhocail agus ag tús an haidiachta:

na teaghlaigh bheaga

turais dheacra

amhráin dheasa

Ní bhaineann an riail seo leis an ainmfhocal, áfach. Ní shéimhítear ainmfhocail éiginnte dar tús d, t, s i ndiaidh ainmfhocal iolra a chríochnaíonn ar d, n, t, l, s caol.

báid seoil

eastáit tithíochta

cumainn trádála

Ní shéimhítear ainmfhocail dar tús f i ndiaidh ainmfhocal iolra a chríochnaíonn ar chonsan caol.

comhaid fuaime

baill foirne

So this is dealing with adjectives, and then nouns as adjectives and since it is saying specifically that 'Ní shéimhítear ainmfhocail éiginnte dar tús d, t, s i ndiaidh ainmfhocal iolra a chríochnaíonn ar d, n, t, l, s caol' (and adjective- nouns beginning with f), can it be safe to deduce that otherwise the séimhiú does apply after the consan caol of the preceding noun?

pog it

Here's an example that might show it: 'Painéil ghréine' with ghréine here being in genitive relation.

From focal.ie

http://www.focal.ie/Search.aspx?term=solar%20panel

Gumbi

pog it wrote: »

Here's an example that might show it: 'Painéil ghréine' with ghréine here being in genitive relation.

From focal.ie

http://www.focal.ie/Search.aspx?term=solar%20panel

I think you're right

ChemHickey

Insect Overlord wrote: »

"Chomhtháthú" is the official word for integration in an educational context. Used with the réamhfhocal "le".

Just with this point, I did maths through Irish in 1st Year (NUIG) and the word we used throughout was suimeáil; is this word just a homonym because I've never heard of or used chomhtháthú before.

Insect Overlord

ChemHickey wrote: »

Just with this point, I did maths through Irish in 1st Year (NUIG) and the word we used throughout was suimeáil; is this word just a homonym because I've never heard of or used chomhtháthú before.

It's not the mathematical concept, but rather the idea of linking multiple school subjects to teach a particular topic in detail. Like using music in PE or performing a piece of drama based on a text in English or Gaeilge. One word (integration) in English, different words in Irish. "Chomhtháthú le hábhair eile"

ChemHickey

Insect Overlord wrote: »

It's not the mathematical concept, but rather the idea of linking multiple school subjects to teach a particular topic in detail. Like using music in PE or performing a piece of drama based on a text in English or Gaeilge. One word (integration) in English, different words in Irish. "Chomhtháthú le hábhair eile"

Oh yes, I understand now! It's a useful word to know Thank you

HansHolzel

tony stark wrote: »

Tá siad ábhar...

Identity and Occupation

When talking about the identity or occupation of a person or thing, you should use Is, Ní, Ba, Níor

Is fear é He is a man
Ní fear é He’s not a man
An fear tú? Are you a man?
Fear ab ea é He was a man
Níor fear é He wasn’t a man


*DO NOT SAY Tá sé fear!*


There is nonetheless also another way around this barrier, by using the normal verb ‘to be’, together with the construction used for standing (e.g. ina sheasamh), sitting (e.g. ina shuí) etc.

THIS IS MOST USEFUL FOR FUTURE IDENTITY OR OCCUPATION

Beidh mé i mo mhúinteoir I’ll be a teacher

Beidh sé ina mhac léinn fós He’ll still be a student

RaeMae

'Tá sé fear...' Chloisim seo I bhfad ro-mhinic, cé go bhfuil an Ghaeilge à dhéanamh mar ábhar triú leibhéal. Gan amhras mura bhfuil taithí ag duine leis an ngaeilge tá sin go breá ag duine éigin ag a mbíonn an teanga á labhairt, is náireach an rud é mura bhfuil an chopaill 'Is' ar eolas acu.
Rant over :L