Drive off at topaz scam ??

Armex

So I just got a call from Garda or so they say, saying that I haven't paid for gas at 16/6/13 with "insert license plate" he told me it was 20 euro and that I need to pay it otherwise I'm going to get arrested ? O.o Now first of all I always and I mean always pay for my gas never have I once forgotten about it, so to get this call at this hour over a month from that date stating that I have to go back and pay it is well very scam like sounding to me or atleast a **** up on someone's side. Now the guy said that I have to go to the topaz give the date and tell his name then give in 20 euro and I will get a receipt some use that is to me since I've paid already... What I want to know is do I have any rights to look over their tapes and see their proof of me driving away without paying ? Logically speaking I should shouldnt I ?

HeidiHeidi

How do you know it was a guard who rang you

Do you actually know it was a guard?

If they ring back again (which is doubtful!) tell them you'll call in to the station to discuss it in person.

drunkmonkey

Are you sure your mates aren't winding you up, my local topaz stick up the pictures pop in and see are you on the wall of shame...

greenflash

Armex wrote: »

So I just got a call from Garda or so they say, saying that I haven't paid for gas at 16/6/13 with "insert license plate" he told me it was 20 euro and that I need to pay it otherwise I'm going to get arrested ? O.o Now first of all I always and I mean always pay for my gas never have I once forgotten about it, so to get this call at this hour over a month from that date stating that I have to go back and pay it is well very scam like sounding to me or atleast a **** up on someone's side. Now the guy said that I have to go to the topaz give the date and tell his name then give in 20 euro and I will get a receipt some use that is to me since I've paid already... What I want to know is do I have any rights to look over their tapes and see their proof of me driving away without paying ? Logically speaking I should shouldnt I ?

Gas? Sure it wasn't twenty bucks?

SpaceTime

Absolutely do not pay anything like that over the phone by credit / debit card.
The Gardai would definitely not ask for payment for something like that by phone and do not ring the garage (or a number given) and pay that way either.

Call your local Garda station (phone numbers here : http://www.garda.ie/stations/default.aspx )
Ask to speak to someone and explain what's happened and ask if this is really them.

It could be someone driving on false plates.

Nobody else has borrowed your car or anything?

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If it is someone winding you up, it's a criminal offense to impersonate a Garda in that kind of way.

Sh1tbag OToole

Armex wrote: »

So I just got a call from Garda or so they say, saying that I haven't paid for gas at 16/6/13 with "insert license plate" he told me it was 20 euro and that I need to pay it otherwise I'm going to get arrested ? O.o Now first of all I always and I mean always pay for my gas never have I once forgotten about it, so to get this call at this hour over a month from that date stating that I have to go back and pay it is well very scam like sounding to me or atleast a **** up on someone's side. Now the guy said that I have to go to the topaz give the date and tell his name then give in 20 euro and I will get a receipt some use that is to me since I've paid already... What I want to know is do I have any rights to look over their tapes and see their proof of me driving away without paying ? Logically speaking I should shouldnt I ?

I didnt pay for gas either. Lifted a yellow cylinder into the boot and drove off.

Calor Kosangas it was

pharmaton

would they not have to provided evidence of you not paying?

Steve

Guards have everyone's phone number.. they can get it from your tyre tracks.

OP, drop me a PM and I'll give you an account number to send the 20 quid to so it'll all be sorted. :pac:

Riesen_Meal

My friend did this before, genuinely forgot to pay for his petrol as he had got a few other things in the shop, the cops called to his door about 3 days later and reminded him to pay next time he was passing....

shruikan2553

Check the number that they called you, if its the gardai then ask to see some evidence. Otherwise tell them there is someone with this number impersonating them.

SpaceTime

It sounds a bit suss tbh.

I'd definitely ring the Gardai and see what they have to say.

You would definitely be entitled to be shown evidence that you didn't pay!

The Backwards Man

Gas thread.

Phill Ewinn

Must be a woman. Didn't even buy a mars bar.

hfallada

The Gardas deal with this pretty much ASAP. I can't see why they sat on their arse rather than deal with it at times. Other than if the CCTV is recorded on to a hard drive. The video of you at the till paying has been recorded over. Meaning there is only a picture of you driving away. Tell the gardas you want to see the CCTV evidence otherwise your not paying

theSHU

SpaceTime wrote: »

It sounds a bit suss tbh.

I'd definitely ring the Gardai and see what they have to say.

You would definitely be entitled to be shown evidence that you didn't pay!

Pfff cut-out the middle man. Talk to Joe tomorrow.

SpaceTime

It's also possible that the garage has somehow mistaken who drove off or not registered your payment somehow.

You could demand to see the video from the shop around the same few minutes which should show you paying.

If you paid by card, just get your card statement and show it.
If you ring the bank, the should be able to give you a time and date of the transaction too.

my my my

the walet inspetor works for the ttrain company

Barr

A guard calling you at midnight, looking for you to pay for somthing from the 16th June.

How did they get your number ? Seems odd to say the least.

Bazzo

When I worked in a petrol station years ago this was standard. If we had petrol filled but unaccounted for we had to check the tapes. If they confirmed somebody driving off without paying then we reported it to the gards. They usually came and took a look at the tapes to confirm and then contacted the person asking them to come in and pay.

Did you pre pay? It sometimes leads to confusion as the fuel usually can't be cleared as paid til after it's filled. Sometimes the person behind the counter puts the money in the till and forgets, but normally you can spot that on camera.

Super-Rush

Happened a friend of mine once.



He died six months later.

the_syco

Armex wrote: »

So I just got a call from Garda or so they say, saying that I haven't paid for gas at 16/6/13 with "insert license plate" he told me it was 20 euro and that I need to pay it otherwise I'm going to get arrested ?

If he rings back, ask for make, model, and colour of said car. I'd say someone just cloned your plates, and are using them when filling up.

Riesen_Meal

Super-Rush wrote: »

Happened a friend of mine once.



He died six months later.

Woah...

We must know the same person....

*Mind = Blown*

Armex

the_syco wrote: »

If he rings back, ask for make, model, and colour of said car. I'd say someone just cloned your plates, and are using them when filling up.

Well that's the thing he stated my cars make as well, I'm definitely going to call the Garda station tomorrow though. He told me I need to get there told me the guy who will be working there and that I need to give him the money so to me it sounds sorta like the guy who is working there might be scamming people, so yeah.

HeidiHeidi

How did the 'guard' get your phone number?

Steve

Armex wrote: »

I'm definitely going to call the Garda station tomorrow though.

Seriously mate, do that. This has scam written all over it.

kaimera

or or or, admit you drove off and got caught.

better story than twilight.

Riesen_Meal

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

How did the 'guard' get your phone number?

And if not a guard, how did a scam artist working in the petrol station get his number either?

Unless he gave it for a club card type thing?

old_aussie

If you drove off without paying...we call it stealing, and the cops know where you are, they will arrest you for theft.

If I knock off a bank in Ireland, will the cops just ask me to pop in and return the cash?....top system.

Sam Kade

greenflash wrote: »

Gas? Sure it wasn't twenty bucks?

He should have called the cops.

HeidiHeidi

Fieldog wrote: »

And if not a guard, how did a scam artist working in the petrol station get his number either?

Unless he gave it for a club card type thing?

Beaten to it! That was my next question!

Sam Kade

old_aussie wrote: »

If you drove off without paying...we call it stealing, and the cops know where you are, they will arrest you for theft.

If I knock off a bank in Ireland, will the cops just ask me to pop in and return the cash?....top system.

Here they are known as Gardaí

Kristopherus

Armex wrote: »

So I just got a call from Garda or so they say, saying that I haven't paid for gas at 16/6/13 with "insert license plate" he told me it was 20 euro and that I need to pay it otherwise I'm going to get arrested ? O.o Now first of all I always and I mean always pay for my gas never have I once forgotten about it, so to get this call at this hour over a month from that date stating that I have to go back and pay it is well very scam like sounding to me or atleast a **** up on someone's side. Now the guy said that I have to go to the topaz give the date and tell his name then give in 20 euro and I will get a receipt some use that is to me since I've paid already... What I want to know is do I have any rights to look over their tapes and see their proof of me driving away without paying ? Logically speaking I should shouldnt I ?

Nice try. Are you scamming After Hours:pac:?

Damien360

old_aussie wrote: »

If you drove off without paying...we call it stealing, and the cops know where you are, they will arrest you for theft.

If I knock off a bank in Ireland, will the cops just ask me to pop in and return the cash?....top system.

Not if you owe billions. They never asked any developers for the money they got. Wayyyyy off topic but the thread is silly.

old_aussie

Sam Kade wrote: »

Here they are known as Gardaí

Thanks, last time I used a shortened/possibly slang name, I got a yellow card.

freshpopcorn

How did he get your phone number and was it at a station that you normal go to?

Hoins

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Gas thread.

Beauty!

minidazzler

old_aussie wrote: »

If you drove off without paying...we call it stealing, and the cops know where you are, they will arrest you for theft.

If I knock off a bank in Ireland, will the cops just ask me to pop in and return the cash?....top system.

I'm going to presume that, given it's 20 euro or so worth of petrol, that there is a benefit of the doubt that the person isn't a serial petrol thief and only did it out of desperation due to being broke, why else would someone use their own plates to do it.

kneemos

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

How did the 'guard' get your phone number?

Get a name and address from the plates and look up the directory,handier than having to call round.

NuckingFacker

Damien360 wrote: »

Not if you owe billions. They never asked any developers for the money they got. Wayyyyy off topic but the thread is silly.

OP is going to need to get a considerably bigger car so... I can only fit €100 fuel in mine... hmm...tanker maybe??

kneemos

Any news bruv?

Arciphel

OP is waking up in a bath of ice with one of his kidneys missing...

seven_eleven

Play along op. Get the name of the petrol station, and then you know who the scumbag cashier who is in on this is.

Notify the Gardai. (the actual gardai)

Christ the Redeemer

I'm too annoyed you called petrol gas to even think about what it is you're asking.

cuana

Armex wrote: »

So I just got a call from Garda or so they say, saying that I haven't paid for gas at 16/6/13 with "insert license plate" he told me it was 20 euro and that I need to pay it otherwise I'm going to get arrested ? O.o Now first of all I always and I mean always pay for my gas never have I once forgotten about it, so to get this call at this hour over a month from that date stating that I have to go back and pay it is well very scam like sounding to me or atleast a **** up on someone's side. Now the guy said that I have to go to the topaz give the date and tell his name then give in 20 euro and I will get a receipt some use that is to me since I've paid already... What I want to know is do I have any rights to look over their tapes and see their proof of me driving away without paying ? Logically speaking I should shouldnt I ?

From experience the only time a garda will follow up on an alleged drive off is after they have seen footage proving that you have indeed driven off without paying. You would be surprised how often it happens people can get distracted & genuinely leave without paying unfortunately for operators there only means of seeking payment is too contact the Gardai.

It is unusual that the Gardai has left it a full month to contact you. Most operators will have contacted the Gardai shortly after the incident took place so ideally you should have been contacted within a few days.

You have the right to review footage. Make sure you request the data from operator in writing within a period of four weeks however if its an alleged drive off this footage should have been downloaded & given to the Gardai & noted by the operator. If you feel that you wish to dispute this then contact your local Gardai station so that they can review & confirm it is indeed the right person they have.

I would request information such as CCTV footage of you entering the forecourt, filling fuel & leaving forecourt without entering into the store! If you have entered the store & perhaps got distracted let them prove that you haven't handed over cash/credit card etc if you had entered the store it is likely your intention was to pay thus harder to prove etc Good luck

MadsL

Christ the Redeemer wrote: »

I'm too annoyed you called petrol gas to even think about what it is you're asking.

What do you usually call your propane?

thund3rbird_

Sam Kade wrote: »

Here they are known as nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnGardaí

fyp

Firefox11

MadsL wrote: »

What do you usually call your propane?

Propane/Butane = Gas

But we don't use those big fancy words in the old country.:cool: