Van losing power, dash lights issue

Mossym24

My van started to chug away and lost power and would not start then for a minute wat wud be wrong

Bpmull

Make ?
Model ?
Year ?
Engine ?
Did it chug when cold or was it up to operating temperature ?
Is it down on power all the time or is it intermittent ?
Is it hard to start now all the time ?
You need to give information to get any kind of an accurate answer.

biko

Without any information there only one answer: divine intervention.

Hal1

A lack of servicing would be my guess.

Mossym24

Bpmull wrote: »

Make ?
Model ?
Year ?
Engine ?
Did it chug when cold or was it up to operating temperature ?
Is it down on power all the time or is it intermittent ?
Is it hard to start now all the time ?
You need to give information to get any kind of an accurate answer.

Citreon berlingo 03 1.9 d no it was up to temperature and started to chug then it died out when i tried starting it again and giving it a bit of gas it was trying to fire up but eventually went for about a min and died out again

Bpmull

Mossym24 wrote: »

Citreon berlingo 03 1.9 d no it was up to temperature and started to chug then it died out when i tried starting it again and giving it a bit of gas it was trying to fire up but eventually went for about a min and died out again

If the fuel filter was bad enough it could cause them symptoms when was it last changed. My fuel filter blocked and the car wouldn't restart until it was changed.

hop2it

is there any diesel in her ?

Mossym24

Mossym24 wrote: »

Citreon berlingo 03 1.9 d no it was up to temperature and started to chug then it died out when i tried starting it again and giving it a bit of gas it was trying to fire up but eventually went for about a min and died out again

It is reading quarter full on guage bt am goina put more in it tomorow jus to b sure i only bought the van so im nt sure wen fuel filter was last changed thanks for the suggestions

HurtLocker

Mossym24 wrote: »

My van started to chug away and lost power and would not start then for a minute wat wud be wrong

My car did that last week. Started chugging in 3rd approaching a red light. Cut out while I was stopped. Toke 6 or 7 ignition turns (about 20 seconds) to get rolling again.

Reason: Dirty Diesel

Tank drained, new fuel, new filter and diptaine and its running fine now..

derry

Citreon berlingo 03 1.9 is probably the answer.Both the Citreon Peugeot and Renault are all overly complex electronic systems .I wont touch either of these if they are more than ~5 years old. If the electronics start to give gremlins they drive you mad with stopping for no reason loss of power and all sorts of stupid things like lights wont function one day and will function the next .Its not just the vans that do this often they are less likely to that than the cars with the fancy no key ignitions or flappy paddle gear shifts .However when the Sh1tren does go it way out tops for fuel economy it get fantastic MPG . My mates new Peugeot van sips fuel but he will sell it off in three years as his motto French poopgeuts Sh1treaons and Renaults are only good cars for the first owner for first three years .He drives 50,000 plus year as courier service so the machine has got to work .The company I worked for in courier service had five year old mercs from the year 2003 and Renault vans new in 2005 and in ~2008 the three year old Renault were falling to bits doors hanging off interiors falling apart head gasket issues with some of them and the Mercs although older were in near perfect nick .The Renault Vans were great for driving great braking with the electronic braking and not bad on fuel but for driving a solid van give me the old 2000 era Merc any day ( not the new mercs from 2005 onwards they are dogs )
If it turn out be electronic gremlins With ~2003 van it might be the more early generation electronics that if all else fails it might be possible to bypass the problem but you need a real electronic car mechanic who really knows his onions and they are rarer than hens teeth in Ireland. Best i gather the newer electronics from 2010 onwards there is nothing you can do with them accept throw the car or van away in the bin once they get past five years old. That what my french friend said to me and he works as Renault mechanic in Paris .Thats why the Renault Megane is selling so well its got all sorts of bells and whistles is fairly cheap good on fuel but he told me the cost to replace the electronic stuff when they start to break in five to 8 years from now will often exceed the value of the car .Then Renault owner car people will be forced to buy new cars instead as the second hand market drys up from lack of useful older second hand cars . for me if its second hand more than i 5 years old its Asian every time as they often have less fancy electronic systems that are still often possible to by pass when they go wrong or not too expensive to replace

Derry

Mossym24

I have 03 citreon berlingo 1.9 d the lights on dash keep flashing bt there is no problem with engine or anything i put in different set of clocks snd same thing happened would anybody know what problem is

Mossym24

I have 1.9d citreon berlingo the lights keeps flashing in dash but there isnt any problem with engine or anything i put different clocks in but it was still the same anybody know what problem could be

cgarrad

Photo?

colm_mcm

Are they flashing or kinda flickering like a loose connection?

dgt

Mossym24 wrote: »

I have 03 citreon berlingo 1.9 d the lights on dash keep flashing bt there is no problem with engine or anything i put in different set of clocks snd same thing happened would anybody know what problem is

Check your bsi plugs inder the carpet

Wow thats a load o helpful scutter above that post :rolleyes:

visual

Probably a sensor or fuel pump.
Will need to get the codes read and experience mechanic to diagnosis the problem.

derry

visual wrote: »

Probably a sensor or fuel pump.
Will need to get the codes read and experience mechanic to diagnosis the problem.

Sound like €€€€
any cheaper solutions out there

A home brew mechanic guy i was taking today on these electronic problems says your lap top and programs for $50 can do a lot but it might be weeks again before i speak to him and can pick his brains how much they can do

he repaired his friend Irl Merc ECU who had got quotes from garages from €800 to €2500 He fixxed it with second hand spares bought from UK for €125 $50 program and few bob for his time.

Really we have to find good solutions to solve these electronic problems clearly made to force us to send cars to expensive garages for minor electronic ailments.

Until then i will stick to avoiding the European makes of cars with star trek systems that cost star trek prices to fix when the cars get older than 5 years old .The Asian car don't do this YET but will probably do this electronic barrier to home fixing soon


Derry

visual

There is few options open to the average guy unless a local mechanic has invested in diagnosis tools for that make.

I had my own frustrating experience with diesel laguna II. Renault dealers exploit this.
There is a renault clip that can be bought but its very expensive and only does reanult cars.

For me I rather jump ships than keep pouring money in to a sinking ship.

visual

There is few options open to the average guy unless a local mechanic has invested in diagnosis tools for that make.

I had my own frustrating experience with diesel laguna II. Renault dealers exploit this.
There is a renault clip that can be bought but its very expensive and only does reanult cars.

For me I rather jump ships than keep pouring money in to a sinking ship.

Tomk1

Don't know the make, but today ECUs and electronic components are pretty much bullet proof, most is the same stuff that has been in PCs to dvd/radios & sensors in manufacturing plants for decades. The problem is it's electronic not mechanical so a barrier for mechanics, and often more a case of getting use to & know the faults through trial & error, diagnostic equipment helps but better someone that actually understands the shoving of electrons around nevermind the other area the software. I understand the electronics but clueless with the mechanical part.

It also seems that car&truck manufactures often do not understand the best pratice for electronic units, like keeping them at a moderate temp and dry. Like sitting a coilpack -which will heat up on their own, on top of a hot engine = eventual failure. ECU should be in the cab of the car as the biggest problem for a Electronic Control Units is water. I wouldn't be surprised if thats the prob that "derry" has mentioned.
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OP I would rule out any mechanical parts, also are there any faults showing up? engine managment light on? Is the van going into Limp mode when hitting op-temp?

biko

Mossym24 wrote: »

My van started to chug away and lost power and would not start then for a minute wat wud be wrong

Mossym24 wrote: »

Citreon berlingo 03 1.9 d no it was up to temperature and started to chug then it died out when i tried starting it again and giving it a bit of gas it was trying to fire up but eventually went for about a min and died out again

Mossym24 wrote: »

I have 1.9d citreon berlingo the lights keeps flashing in dash but there isnt any problem with engine or anything i put different clocks in but it was still the same anybody know what problem could be

Mossym, this is the same van yeah for both issues? Power and dash lights?
In one thread you say van lose power, in the next engine is fine? Confusing.

I've merged the two threads but if you have two 1.9 Berlingo vans (each with a separate issue) let me know and I'll spilt them again.

Mossym24

colm_mcm wrote: »

Are they flashing or kinda flickering like a loose connection?

Jus flickering on and off