is there any reliable diesel anymore

corkgsxr

With rafts of sensors, dpfs, dmfs, egrs, long service intervals, mafs and huge pressure rails outside the 3ish year warranty is there is there any reliable diesel anymore?

I wonder is it just the least unreliable is the best you can go for.

166man

There are plenty of reliable diesels out there, problem is Irish people in general can't grasp this concept that newer more pressurised cars need more servicing and more importantly maintenance than a late nineties petrol Corolla.

Look after a car either new or old and in general it will look after you.

corkgsxr

No alot are unreliable even with the service interval followed

166man

corkgsxr wrote: »

No alot are unreliable even with the service interval followed

Which cars?

corkgsxr

166man wrote: »

Which cars?

Alfas In general. Any of the small diesels. Why cant manufacturers make decent timing chains anymore

YbFocus

corkgsxr wrote: »

Alfas In general. Any of the small diesels. Why cant manufacturers make decent timing chains anymore

Oh dear god do you see who you quoted and said that to
Diesels can be good, once you remove the offending bits you have a good time of it. I like to service mine at 5000 miles as the bmw's like the fresh stuff, specially the turbos.

corkgsxr

Wait till the new emissions regs come in. If you dont drive 5 miles at 50kph then 90 everywhere your in serious trouble

Outkast_IRE

Personally if I needed to buy a diesel in the morning the Honda Accord Diesel would tempt me, prob the 2.2 engine

Technoprisoner

they are all crap as are all European cars lol

166man

corkgsxr wrote: »

Alfas In general. Any of the small diesels. Why cant manufacturers make decent timing chains anymore

Not sure on what small diesels you're referring to, but I'd agree with you on the BMW timing chain issue alright, shocking error.

Busted Flat.

corkgsxr wrote: »

With rafts of sensors, dpfs, dmfs, egrs, long service intervals, mafs and huge pressure rails outside the 3ish year warranty is there is there any reliable diesel anymore?

I wonder is it just the least unreliable is the best you can go for.

I f you translated your thread into english it would be a help in understanding your question. I have driven diesel transport of all makes with no particular problem.

YbFocus

166man wrote: »

Not sure on what small diesels you're referring to, but I'd agree with you on the BMW timing chain issue alright, shocking error.

That particular error will destroy their name for eternity

Ronnie Beck

Busted Flat. wrote: »

I f you translated your thread into english it would be a help in understanding your question. I have driven diesel transport of all makes with no particular problem.

Google them. They are systems introduced to diesel engines over the last twenty years or so to increase performance and reduce emissions at the expense of reliability. Unfortunately you can't have your cake and eat it.

Busted Flat.

Ronnie Beck wrote: »

Google them. They are systems introduced to diesel engines over the last twenty years or so to increase performance and reduce emissions at the expense of reliability. Unfortunately you can't have your cake and eat it.

Your right, just drive them, when you get into the technicalities, you will find you will come to the conclusion by listening to some a$$hole, Oh I wouldn't drive a Hyundia, Renault, or some other brand because some clown in the pub knows a mechanic who declares, Jaysus I would keep away from that type of car. Have you heard that said. It is called Bolli(ksoligy.

166man

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_Conrad_

Same as the old school diesels? in the way that an ancient 1.9d vento will just continue to run as long as it's got a tiny trickle of diesel and a bit of oil, despite having 300k miles and never being looked after, or a w123 mercedes 300d will rack up half a million miles when treated right... No.
There isn't that kind of "never service it, never clean it, abuse it all the time and it'll still work" reliability anymore.

As someone else said above they need more attention now due to all the silly emissions crap that's attached to them and modern injection systems and the new breed of soft light duty modern turbos designed for as little lag as possible but compromising on durability.

Most of them are fine when looked after as much as they need to be, but people's just don't do it, and on top of that cars have become throwaway items so the makers don't build them to last.

Much like mobile phones? Remember the nokia 3310 and it's kind? Well i've one through 2 "smart" phones this year and many others since they got all fancy, but the 3310 in the drawer still works after what must be 10-12 years anyway.

jamesr123

I suppose anything that's looked after will last a long time. Although, I have a mate who bought a 2008 1.6 tdci focus and it has been nothing but trouble with sensors, dpf additive tank, now over heating and the car is in a garage lock up as we speak. :o

Victor Meldrew

YbFocus wrote: »

Oh dear god do you see who you quoted and said that to
Diesels can be good, once you remove the offending bits you have a good time of it. I like to service mine at 5000 miles as the bmw's like the fresh stuff, specially the turbos.

I blame the greens and marketing departments in car firms. Many uber-economical, small capacity, high output (relative to capacity) diesels are either peaky and bad to drive, (opel 1.3CDTI), or have been screwed up by over-zealous engineers (n47 timing chain, engine installed backwards,..) or are unrefined in terms of NVH (N47 again).

There are no free lunches. We were never going to get consequence free power.

Manufacturers should not have gone to market with untested technology which had seen an effective doubling in power output in 15 years.

None of this is helped by the public being convinced that they need cars that big and bloated. Finally manufacturers are realising that cutting weight is the solution.

It is a bit silly, that to have a reliable car, you have to service it 3 times as often as they recommend and remove/blank off the swirl-flaps

HandsomeDan

Victor Meldrew wrote: »

I blame the greens and marketing departments in car firms. Many uber-economical, small capacity, high output (relative to capacity) diesels are either peaky and bad to drive, (opel 1.3CDTI), or have been screwed up by over-zealous engineers (n47 timing chain, engine installed backwards,..) or are unrefined in terms of NVH (N47 again).

There are no free lunches. We were never going to get consequence free power.

Manufacturers should not have gone to market with untested technology which had seen an effective doubling in power output in 15 years.

None of this is helped by the public being convinced that they need cars that big and bloated. Finally manufacturers are realising that cutting weight is the solution.

It is a bit silly, that to have a reliable car, you have to service it 3 times as often as they recommend and remove/blank off the swirl-flaps

Sorry VM, have a dreaded N47 engine based 320d; 120k miles, serviced according to manu's 'long' intervals, and the thing'll still do 5l/100, put a smile on my face, and ... not a single issue.

Now will ye moonbats and Gaia --it was the greens--worshipers ever **** off and die!