Spreading fertiliser for aftergrass

Muckit

OK just for the beef/sheep lads, ye dairy lads have money coming out yer ears....:pac:

Is spreading bag manure cost effective for aftergrass (for grazing)?

delaval

Muckit wrote: »

OK just for the beef/sheep lads, ye dairy lads have money coming out yer ears....:pac:

Is spreading bag manure cost effective for aftergrass (for grazing)?

Sorry I'm dairy but you know the answer or you wouldn't have asked the question

I'll get my coat now:)

Sam Kade

I have bullocks and a few heifers this year I don't normally spread fert this time of year but I will now to get a good bit of growth so that I can keep them grazing until mid December. The last time I spread fert in August was in 09 I had bullocks that year. I was able to keep them grazing until after Christmas that year and they thrived better from Sept-Dec than they did during the summer even though it rained almost every day.

Good loser

Muckit wrote: »

OK just for the beef/sheep lads, ye dairy lads have money coming out yer ears....:pac:

Is spreading bag manure cost effective for aftergrass (for grazing)?

Always depends on stocking. But yes generally. One bag 27:2.5:5 or 24:x:10.

Muckit

Good loser wrote: »

Always depends on stocking. But yes generally. One bag 27:2.5:5 or 24:x:10.

Yes I agree. I was going to add that if you knew that you would have enough grass without spreading... but I'm more thinking about keeping quality in the sward and keeping weeds out.

But also from now on, does it depend on stocking rate? Perhaps dairy lads would think a bit early to start buiding the 'wedge', but couldn't heavy covers be strip grazed later on to shorten the winter?

I suppose what I'm asking is

'will it give a return on beef/sheep farms spreading fertiliser on aftergrass??'

delaval

Muckit wrote: »

Yes I agree. I was going to add that if you knew that you would have enough grass without spreading... but I'm more thinking about keeping quality in the sward and keeping weeds out.

But also from now on, does it depend on stocking rate? Perhaps dairy lads would think a bit early to start buiding the 'wedge', but couldn't heavy covers be strip grazed later on to shorten the winter?

I suppose what I'm asking is

'will it give a return on beef/sheep farms spreading fertiliser on aftergrass??'

No need to shout;);)

Sam Kade

Muckit wrote: »

Yes I agree. I was going to add that if you knew that you would have enough grass without spreading... but I'm more thinking about keeping quality in the sward and keeping weeds out.

But also from now on, does it depend on stocking rate? Perhaps dairy lads would think a bit early to start buiding the 'wedge', but couldn't heavy covers be strip grazed later on to shorten the winter?

I suppose what I'm asking is

'will it give a return on beef/sheep farms spreading fertiliser on aftergrass??'

Yes it will

Good loser

Depends on the figures. Can't see it not paying this time of year. Generally the tipping point - prob for good stocking - is mid Sept.

The test is value of extra kgs dry matter against cost of N (or mix) per kg. The P and K is maintenance for the longer term.

delaval

Jaysus, ye beef boys are a rough crowd with ye're shouting and roaring at each other. I think I'll go back to the IHFA thread a much more civilised row going on there. It never gets this rough even with Bob in grass measuring

Muckit

delaval wrote: »

Jaysus, ye beef boys are a rough crowd with ye're shouting and roaring at each other. I think I'll go back to the IHFA thread a much more civilised row going on there. It never gets this rough even with Bob in grass measuring

Arra, forgot that increasing font size meant shouting! :pac:

delaval

Muckit wrote: »

Arra, forgot that increasing font size meant shouting! :pac:

I didn't know 'till Mrs Delaval walked past the puter and said what are ye shouting about