New fertiliser spreader

stop thelights

Our fertiliser spinner is on the after losing its last legs. It's a rauch 1ton spinner 15 yr old! Bearing is gone in the gear box and its not throwing the fert that far anymore! So cogs in the gear box are probably fecked!!

Going ringing to see what it will cost to put it right and if its worth spending money on it! Was hoping it to last till sept and then change!

So what spinners would you recommend. Going for a 3 bag with cover! Leaning towards a sulky or a rauch again! No prices as of yet. So what do boardises recommend?

nashmach

Rauch again or Bogballe.

It may not cost as much as you think to repair.

49801

I like bogballe myself just because its what we have and it has a very good spread pattern. New think your in the 5k region.

One thing I have wondered lately is any brand better than others for ease of cleaning? And I mean proper cleaning being able to put a sponge onto every surface. (Can you tell I am obsessed about cleaning it every use)

stop thelights

nashmach wrote: »

Rauch again or Bogballe.

It may not cost as much as you think to repair.

Any idea on the cost of it?? The only thing is on repairing it the housing for the gearbox is pretty rusted so would want to be careful not to put a hole in it! Haha

If its anywhere near a thousand euro ill be going new I'd say!

stop thelights

49801 wrote: »

I like bogballe myself just because its what we have and it has a very good spread pattern. New think your in the 5k region.

One thing I have wondered lately is any brand better than others for ease of cleaning? And I mean proper cleaning being able to put a sponge onto every surface. (Can you tell I am obsessed about cleaning it every use)

I would have tought that they were all the same but I don't like spreaders with the two mini hoppers inside one for each side! By right should wash spinner after every use put in a shed to dry and spray with a diesel/ used transmission oil mix the following day wen dry to ensure a long life

loveta

Bought a new sulky in spring dpx18 "3bag" model picked it over the amazone for a few reasons, higher spec, stainless steel on most of the moving parts exposed to the fert, and VERY easy set to spread and at vari widths, has a cover but if iam honest its a piece of sh@#e lets down the sower if iam honest

lab man

if i were you i'd bring it to auction as is and sell it , i've tried to repair them before not an easy job by all means its not, your talking of well into a grand to fix it and two days work,, if your going to fix it take lots of photos for shims etc as the main shaft goes in from one side they are hard to get right but selling is easier imo,, lab man

bob charles

why not just get a contractor to spread the fert? a new spread on most farms will work out costing allot per ton spread.

stop thelights

bob charles wrote: »

why not just get a contractor to spread the fert? a new spread on most farms will work out costing allot per ton spread.

Ya I see your point but u really can't beat having your own machinery! I do a bit of contracting with it as it is and I see the next manchine lasting 20years with care!

stop thelights

lab man wrote: »

if i were you i'd bring it to auction as is and sell it , i've tried to repair them before not an easy job by all means its not, your talking of well into a grand to fix it and two days work,, if your going to fix it take lots of photos for shims etc as the main shaft goes in from one side they are hard to get right but selling is easier imo,, lab man

Ya that's what I'm afraid of! Is that price for parts or doing it yourself? I'd be able to rip and replace the parts myself and going good! But I'd reckon its a new box should go under it!

stop thelights

loveta wrote: »

Bought a new sulky in spring dpx18 "3bag" model picked it over the amazone for a few reasons, higher spec, stainless steel on most of the moving parts exposed to the fert, and VERY easy set to spread and at vari widths, has a cover but if iam honest its a piece of sh@#e lets down the sower if iam honest

Thanks for that what price was that spinner if you don't mind me asking?? I've heard the sulky is a great spinner alrite! Point taken on the cover.cheers

loveta

stop thelights wrote: »

Thanks for that what price was that spinner if you don't mind me asking?? I've heard the sulky is a great spinner alrite! Point taken on the cover.cheers

Pm sent..

nashmach

bob charles wrote: »

why not just get a contractor to spread the fert? a new spread on most farms will work out costing allot per ton spread.

But will you get a contractor to spread 50kgs to the acre on the far 5 acre field.

I very much doubt it!

farmerjack

Bought a bogballe l2 here 2 years ago, 1500 kg capacity, cover and lights 4800 vat incl, great spreader and very easy to calibrate

stop thelights

farmerjack wrote: »

Bought a bogballe l2 here 2 years ago, 1500 kg capacity, cover and lights 4800 vat incl, great spreader and very easy to calibrate

Ya I heard that there a great spreader alrite but we've narrowed it down to rauch and sulky! Neighbour had trouble with the bogballe spreader that kept breaking some thing in the gear box so that turned us off that spreader.

Sulky 4700 inc and rauch around the 5500 mark including vat. Just a quick question regards piping to tractor. One option is a single ram on rauch with a mecahinical shut off for one sided spreading....so that one ram with 2 hoses or..... U can get 2 double acting rams with 4 hoses so can shut one side off in cab. One dealer is pushing one type over the other and we're getting a little confused.

Amazon dealer kept saying it was a far superior machine to any other but was clueless when questioned on how to set up and what way the agitators worked. So nuf said about him :-)

loveta

Just a quick question regards piping to tractor. One option is a single ram on rauch with a mecahinical shut off for one sided spreading....so that one ram with 2 hoses or..... U can get 2 double acting rams with 4 hoses so can shut one side off in cab. One dealer is pushing one type over the other and we're getting a little confused.

Not sure i fully understand what your explaining here. does the raunch only spread one side "from one side" or from either side?
The reason i ask is because it can be a problem when you start to get low and nothing in one side of the sower and the other side has 50-100kgs still left

stop thelights

loveta wrote: »

Just a quick question regards piping to tractor. One option is a single ram on rauch with a mecahinical shut off for one sided spreading....so that one ram with 2 hoses or..... U can get 2 double acting rams with 4 hoses so can shut one side off in cab. One dealer is pushing one type over the other and we're getting a little confused.

Not sure i fully understand what your explaining here. does the raunch only spread one side "from one side" or from either side?
The reason i ask is because it can be a problem when you start to get low and nothing in one side of the sower and the other side has 50-100kgs still left

It's kinda hard to explain but basically it's got to do with the method of opening and closing. One has a single double acting ram for opening and closing with 2 hoses. To open one side you have to hop off the trac and pull a lever preventing one side from opening and work lever in cab as normal to open and close but only opening one side if ya follow.

The other option has 2 double acting rams taking up 2 spools on the trac(4 hoses) but u can open and shut either side or open both at the same time all from the cab!

Rauch has only the single hopper no divisions which I prefer.

loveta

Mine has a spring loaded ram which always is under pressure to stay "open" you put oil to it to close it but there is only one oil pipe to each ram

delaval

stop thelights wrote: »

Ya I heard that there a great spreader alrite but we've narrowed it down to rauch and sulky! Neighbour had trouble with the bogballe spreader that kept breaking some thing in the gear box so that turned us off that spreader.

Sulky 4700 inc and rauch around the 5500 mark including vat. Just a quick question regards piping to tractor. One option is a single ram on rauch with a mecahinical shut off for one sided spreading....so that one ram with 2 hoses or..... U can get 2 double acting rams with 4 hoses so can shut one side off in cab. One dealer is pushing one type over the other and we're getting a little confused.

Amazon dealer kept saying it was a far superior machine to any other but was clueless when questioned on how to set up and what way the agitators worked. So nuf said about him :-)

Really not important if spreading at 12m. You really only need to close one side if spreading at 18+ meters in short ground.

Do not consider any make other than Amazone all others are trying to be Amazone. Very accurate, easy set and very important easily cleaned. Stainless steel base and agitator.
Down side vanes are expensive to replace. Unless you are spreading 200+ tonnes per year a set should last a lifetime.

E mac

Got a one tonne Amazonne in 2009 great even spread/ quick/ no mechanical trouble so far. However it's a basterd to put on a John Deere (gotta 6620 /6630) too close to rear mudguard very difficult to put on pto shaft and toplink without getting covered in ****e....

bob charles

delaval wrote: »

Really not important if spreading at 12m. You really only need to close one side if spreading at 18+ meters in short ground.

Do not consider any make other than Amazone all others are trying to be Amazone. Very accurate, easy set and very important easily cleaned. Stainless steel base and agitator.
Down side vanes are expensive to replace. Unless you are spreading 200+ tonnes per year a set should last a lifetime.

And my view of amazones is that they are the greatest heaps of sh*te ever. so much so I refuse to use mine anymore. Even my contractor managed to stripe my land with his fancy amazone:rolleyes:

flat out !!

Letter in the journal this week some lad looking for an end to 50 kg bags of fert on health and safety concerns, 25 kg bags anyone?

nashmach

bob charles wrote: »

And my view of amazones is that they are the greatest heaps of sh*te ever. so much so I refuse to use mine anymore. Even my contractor managed to stripe my land with his fancy amazone:rolleyes:

Most with tillage would agree too!

I wonder is the OP referring to headland spreading?

bob charles

nashmach wrote: »

Most with tillage would agree too!

I wonder is the OP referring to headland spreading?

bredal is my favourite, load up once to spread 100ac:cool:

nashmach

bob charles wrote: »

bredal is my favourite, load up once to spread 100ac:cool:

How does the 165 find it

bob charles

nashmach wrote: »

How does the 165 find it

grand on the flat, but you need to have your wits about you on hills

delaval

bob charles wrote: »

bredal is my favourite, load up once to spread 100ac:cool:

I had one never again, closest comparison would be a 'dung spreader' and they would be more accurate. Great for beet fert at 10 bags per acre

moy83

flat out !! wrote: »

Letter in the journal this week some lad looking for an end to 50 kg bags of fert on health and safety concerns, 25 kg bags anyone?

I think that letter originated on this forum . They are definitely the way to go

delaval

bob charles wrote: »

And my view of amazones is that they are the greatest heaps of sh*te ever. so much so I refuse to use mine anymore. Even my contractor managed to stripe my land with his fancy amazone:rolleyes:

Either a setting or operator issue. Does the guy who sprayed for you while you were away use spreader.

loveta

delaval wrote: »

Really not important if spreading at 12m. You really only need to close one side if spreading at 18+ meters in short ground.

Do not consider any make other than Amazone all others are trying to be Amazone. Very accurate, easy set and very important easily cleaned. Stainless steel base and agitator.
Down side vanes are expensive to replace. Unless you are spreading 200+ tonnes per year a set should last alifetime

The standard sulky is actually of a higher spec than the Zam amazon s let alone the Zax models

bob charles

delaval wrote: »

Either a setting or operator issue. Does the guy who sprayed for you while you were away use spreader.

that tool used to use it in the past but I have better things to be doing nowadays so get contractor with mounted amazone or bredal. All I have to do now is top dress the beet, surprised my yoke didnt stripe it this year.