sky digital -- HD CHANNEL CODES?

nitna bitna

any one have any updated FTA hd channel codes such as

itv 2 HD etc etc??

obliviousgrudge

I don't think you can get those channels here. Only ones are ITV HD, BBCs, and Channel 4 if you have a UK card.

Gerry Wicklow

http://en.kingofsat.net/freqs.php?&pos=28.2E&standard=All&ordre=freq&filtre=Clear

Lists all FTA channels available from 28°. ITV2, 3 & 4 HD are subscription channels.

NUTZZ

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

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Lists all FTA channels available from 28°. ITV2, 3 & 4 HD are subscription channels.

Subscription and only available in the UK.

Tom Hanks

NUTZZ wrote: »

Subscription and only available in the UK.

Those channels open via an Irish card on the likes of Dream etc.....

NUTZZ

Tom Hanks wrote: »

Those channels open via an Irish card on the likes of Dream etc.....

Oh I know, didn't want to stray into that whole grey area on here.

radiowaves

NUTZZ wrote: »

Oh I know, didn't want to stray into that whole grey area on here.

In terms of responses to what's been claimed on this thread it's hardly a grey area though, is it?

The ITV HD subscription channels can be received here and Irish subscription cards do open them.

That is either black or white, surely

You are denied opening them using a Sky box (whether deliberately or otherwise) by the fact that they can't be tuned in via the Other Channels menu.

Neither Sky, nor instructions given to them by ITV, have blocked them from opening on the Irish card.

NUTZZ

radiowaves wrote: »

In terms of responses to what's been claimed on this thread it's hardly a grey area though, is it?

Using a Sky viewing card in a third party box like a Dreambox is very much a grey area on these forums!

radiowaves

NUTZZ wrote: »

Using a Sky viewing card in a third party box like a Dreambox is very much a grey area on these forums!

Even if that's the case it was your specific wording that the channels were

only available in the UK.

and this

obliviousgrudge wrote: »

I don't think you can get those channels here.

that I was referring to.

Gray area or not, both statements are factually incorrect.

Not to mention using a UK subscription card would also make them available on a Sky receiver.

NUTZZ

radiowaves wrote: »

Gray area or not, both statements are factually incorrect.

Not to mention using a UK subscription card would also make them available on a Sky receiver.

My statement was not incorrect, those channels are only available in the UK legally

From Sky;

ITV2 HD, ITV3 HD and ITV4 HD channels currently do not operate in the Republic of Ireland due to a decision by ITV not to offer or license these channels outside the UK.

This decision is in the hands of ITV and you would need to contact ITV directly to enquire about this.

radiowaves

NUTZZ wrote: »

My statement was not incorrect, those channels are only available in the UK legally

From Sky;

Not looking to argue with you mate,

But your original statement did not include the word legally, so I'm afraid your original statement was factually incorrect.

Your most recent statement is now up for debate.

It is certainly breaking the terms of your contract with Sky to use the card to view the ITV subscription channels, but illegal? Some might argue that it is but it's a very emotive word to use in this case.

Anyway, the fact is the channels aren't blocked on an Irish Sky card ergo, as already established, they can be viewed here (legally or not) so your original statement was factually incorrect.

NUTZZ

radiowaves wrote: »

Not looking to argue with you mate,

But your original statement did not include the word legally, so I'm afraid your original statement was factually incorrect.

Your most recent statement is now up for debate.

It is certainly breaking the terms of your contract with Sky to use the card to view the ITV subscription channels, but illegal? Some might argue that it is but it's a very emotive word to use in this case.

Anyway, the fact is the channels aren't blocked on an Irish Sky card ergo, as already established, they can be viewed here (legally or not) so your original statement was factually incorrect.

I'm not arguing? And just because you say "factually incorrect" over and over doesn't make it so.

The OP wanted "FTA hd channel" frequencies for ITV 2 HD, there is no such thing. They are subscription channels on Sky UK only. However else you manage to get them is outside of Sky's contract terms and not allowed to be discussed on this forum as is regularly pointed out by mods.

radiowaves

NUTZZ wrote: »

I'm not arguing? And just because you say "factually incorrect" over and over doesn't make it so.

The OP wanted "FTA hd channel" frequencies for ITV 2 HD, there is no such thing. They are subscription channels on Sky UK only. However else you manage to get them is outside of Sky's contract terms and not allowed to be discussed on this forum as is regularly pointed out by mods.

Well, actually, the OP wanted

any updated FTA hd channel codes such as

itv 2 HD etc etc??

It was unfortunate that the singular example he gave was not FTA but you're again making a factually incorrect statement - this time about what the OP requested.

As regards the ability to receive and view the channels in this country, your exercise in double-think is commendable, George Orwell would've been proud of you. In one of your posts you admitted to being very aware that it is possible to view ITV subscription channels channels here using a valid subscription card. Yet in all other posts you state the opposite.

Just because something is supposedly "not allowed to be discussed" on this forum doesn't make a factually incorrect statement a factually correct one.

But I'd be astonished if it is unacceptable on this, or any forum, to state that those channels are possible to view here using a valid subscription card. Otherwise discussion and debate is strangled and stifled at birth negating the fundamental point of a forum.

What I understand to be forbidden by the mods (on this forum; other forums freely allow such matters to be discussed) is discussing how it is possible to view the channels but it would be entering dangerous territory to ban mentioning something that is possible; and entering extremely dangerous territory to force members to state that it's not possible!

1984 has arrived at last.

NUTZZ

Ok well since you're clearly not reading my posts and continuing to go in circles there is no point in me posting any further.

radiowaves

NUTZZ wrote: »

Ok well since you're clearly not reading my posts and continuing to go in circles there is no point in me posting any further.

Sorry mate, the final factually incorrect statement from you. That is assuming the above is actually factually correct and you don't post any further.

I've clearly read your posts as they are what I've quoted and replied to!

I disagree with the circles thing; you have made certain statements and one thing I do hate anywhere is misinformation.

Don't say certain channels cannot be viewed in this country when they quite patently can.

If you have to say it is against Sky's terms and conditions to do so, that's fine; if you feel a subject is out of bounds according to a forum's charter then say nothing at all; but you have no right to categorically give out false information.

And the use of the word illegal? Can't say I've heard of Gardaí bashing in someone's door on suspicion of them watching The Xtra Factor or Real Housewives in HD on a subscription card they pay for. But I'll keep an eye on the papers for any updates.

Circle complete.

Digidol

radiowaves wrote: »

Sorry mate, the final factually incorrect statement from you. That is assuming the above is actually factually correct and you don't post any further.

I've clearly read your posts as they are what I've quoted and replied to!

I disagree with the circles thing; you have made certain statements and one thing I do hate anywhere is misinformation.

Don't say certain channels cannot be viewed in this country when they quite patently can.

If you have to say it is against Sky's terms and conditions to do so, that's fine; if you feel a subject is out of bounds according to a forum's charter then say nothing at all; but you have no right to categorically give out false information.

And the use of the word illegal? Can't say I've heard of Gardaí bashing in someone's door on suspicion of them watching The Xtra Factor or Real Housewives in HD on a subscription card they pay for. But I'll keep an eye on the papers for any updates.

Circle complete.

So far NUTZZ has posted corrected information, you are the one misleading people. You have described methods of receiving the channels which are against the Sky Digital Subscription Contract.

You have suggested using a UK subscription over here which is against the contract;

The Viewing Card must not be used outside the country it was supplied for use in.

You suggested using an Irish card in a third party box which is also against the SSSL

Use of a Viewing Card with any decoding apparatus we do not authorise. You can only use the Viewing Card at your Address with the Box for which it is first authorised by SSSL to receive encrypted digital satellite services.

Your last comment only proves you are out to stir trouble instead and informing people on how to break their Sky contract. If those channels where meant to be available here they would be available on a Sky Ireland sub and clear in a Sky box here, but alas, they don't.

radiowaves

Digidol wrote: »

So far NUTZZ has posted corrected information, you are the one misleading people. You have described methods of receiving the channels which are against the Sky Digital Subscription Contract.

Where exactly have I described these methods?

Digidol wrote: »

You have suggested using a UK subscription over here which is against the contract;

Oooops. Read the posts please. UK sub not mentioned by me. Not once. Not necessary in this instance.

Digidol wrote: »

Your last comment only proves you are out to stir trouble instead and informing people on how to break their Sky contract. If those channels where meant to be available here they would be available on a Sky Ireland sub and clear in a Sky box here, but alas, they don't.

Once again please tell me where, and how, I've informed people on how to break their Sky contract?

And, mate, the whole point of this is that they ARE available on a Sky Ireland sub card. The only reason they don't clear in a Sky box using an Irish card is because they can't be tuned into other channels on a Sky box.

Please get your facts straight and read the posts properly before wading in. Especially when you say Nutzzzzz is right to say the channels cannot be received here then you have a go at me because you agree they can be received here!!!

Nuts!

Digidol

Actually factually you have posted many inaccuracies;

You are denied opening them using a Sky box (whether deliberately or otherwise) by the fact that they can't be tuned in via the Other Channels menu.

Neither Sky, nor instructions given to them by ITV, have blocked them from opening on the Irish card.

Incorrect, ITV block access. ITV have chosen not to offer or license these channels outside the UK.

Oooops. Read the posts please. UK sub not mentioned by me. Not once. Not necessary in this instance.

Oh really?...

Not to mention using a UK subscription card would also make them available on a Sky receiver.

Once again please tell me where, and how, I've informed people on how to break their Sky contract?

Pretty much every way you have described to access the channels is a breach of a persons Sky contract which is legally binding.

So many factually incorrect statements from a person who claims to hate misinformation

radiowaves

Do you know what's so funny about your 2 posts Digidol? Not once have I disagreed that it is against Sky's t&c to view the ITV subscription channels so I'm not really sure why you're making the points you're making?

The thread stood thus: 2 people categorically said the channels could not be viewed here. I argued that they can. And furthermore that they can using an Irish viewing card.

So what's your point again? Oh yes, loads and loads of inaccuracies posted by me...

Inaccuracy number 1:

Digidol wrote: »

Incorrect, ITV block access. ITV have chosen not to offer or license these channels outside the UK.

Now that was a response to this quote by me that you included, so I assume you even read it more than once yet still went ahead with your claim of inaccuracy:

You are denied opening them using a Sky box (whether deliberately or otherwise) by the fact that they can't be tuned in via the Other Channels menu.

Neither Sky, nor instructions given to them by ITV, have blocked them from opening on the Irish card.

Circles that Nutzzz mentioned. Whatever instructions ITV have given Sky the channels are not blocked on an Irish card. Where's the inaccuracy please?

Number 2 (UK Card):

Digidol wrote: »

Pretty much every way you have described to access the channels is a breach of a persons Sky contract which is legally binding.

Again, once again indeed, please state exactly every way that I've described?

(I'll give you the UK card thing. I'd forgotten I'd mentioned it, it is late at night after all; but it was a last ditch example of another way that those channels can be received in Ireland. Then again Sky tend to turn a blind eye within the UK and Ireland - examples of which there are loads. That t&c is really more in place for cards being used outside these islands.

But this troublemaker has rightly received his slap on the wrist because nobody would ever have thought of it until they seen it mentioned here because they can't think for themselves of course. I'm such a bad influence me. Blame me for the influx of UK subscription cards into this country starting tomorrow. (What do you mean there are already loads?))

So, as requested in the last post that you decided to answer by just repeating the accusation, all the other ways I've described please?

Now, onto number 3 of all the many, many inaccuracies.

Oh, there were just 2.

One of them not so inaccurate.

The other an oversight about my own posts!

Right, now awaiting all those many naughty methods of accessing ITV channels that I've described.....

Digidol

radiowaves wrote: »

Do you know what's so funny about your 2 posts Digidol? Not once have I disagreed that it is against Sky's t&c to view the ITV subscription channels so I'm not really sure why you're making the points you're making?

I made the point because you said they were available here, by breaking your Sky contract.

The thread stood thus: 2 people categorically said the channels could not be viewed here. I argued that they can. And furthermore that they can using an Irish viewing card.

Again in a third party box which is not authorized.

Circles that Nutzzz mentioned. The channels are available on an Irish subscription card. How have ITV blocked access exactly? Not inaccurate.

Easily, by not having them available on the ROI EPG

Again, once again indeed, please state exactly all the ways I've described?

Once again since you like to see things repeated over and over again;
- using a Sky card in a third party box
- using a a UK card in a box

I'll give you the UK card thing. I'd forgotten I'd mentioned it; it was a last ditch example of another way that those channels can be received in Ireland.

That's no problem, everyone makes mistakes, we're all here to learn at the end of the day.

But this troublemaker has rightly received his slap on the wrist because nobody would ever have thought of it until they seen it mentioned here.

I'm such a bad influence me.


Now, onto number 3 of all the many, many inaccuracies.

Not quite sure what you're trying to prove by giving smart attitude here, it seems to be a recurring theme in your posts so I gather it's something you try and do to back up your points.

radiowaves

Digidol wrote: »

I made the point because you said they were available here, by breaking your Sky contract.

Well actually I really just said they were available here. And didn't deny it was a breach of terms and conditions. But that's old ground.

Digidol wrote: »

Again in a third party box which is not authorized.

Quote me please?

Digidol wrote: »

Easily, by not having them available on the ROI EPG

Nothing to do with the quote from me that you quoted. No inaccuracy in what I said. Not going to repeat it for a third time. Read it yourself.

FYI, and as an aside, the RoI EPG is a seperate/additional charge. There have always been channels that decide not to go on the RoI EPG - doesn't necessarily imply they were deliberately denying access here.

So, not easily at all in fairness.

Digidol wrote: »

Once again since you like to see things repeated over and over again;
- using a Sky card in a third party box
- using a a UK card in a box.

So of the many, many ways you originally claimed I'd described, you've come up with.......2. Only one of which I actually said. :rolleyes:

Oh, and where have you repeated these over and over again?

Digidol wrote: »

Not quite sure what you're trying to prove by giving smart attitude here, it seems to be a recurring theme in your posts so I gather it's something you try and do to back up your points.

Ah, so you butting in and accusing me of being here to simply stir up trouble was not displaying an attitude? The attempt to lighten the mood bypassed you?

My point, which might have been made better, was that people can think for themselves.

By simply stating that ITV subscription channels are available on an Irish Sky subscription card is not going to cause a mass outbreak of anarchy.

Indeed, apart from a UK subscription card - which people have been obtaining in this country whenever necessary and most people are aware of their existence - I have not described any method of receiving the channels, just stated that they can be received.

In fact, it is actually you that has described in detail how these channels can be received. Who's stirring it now!

Digidol wrote: »

Again in a third party box which is not authorized.

And more than once too.

Digidol wrote: »

Once again since you like to see things repeated over and over again;
- using a Sky card in a third party box.

For the final time, please provide the quotes of me doing the same.

lertsnim

What a way for a thread to go off the rails

radiowaves

lertsnim wrote: »

What a way for a thread to go off the rails

Well the OP's question was answered by post #3 so we had to entertain ourselves some way

Especially as there was nothing worth watching on any of the ITV HD channels!