Best Dublin crowd to go to for puncture repair

Jesus.

Alright lads. I've got a slow puncture (screw gone through tyre) and want to get it repaired. The thing is, I'm sick of going to places who always say "sorry mate, you need a new tyre". I can't even remember the last time I've gone to get a puncture mended and not ended up being flogged a new tyre.

Now I know there are many instances where a new tyre is required but I've always got the feeling that they only want to get you through the door so they can shake you down for as much as they can. Advance Pitstop is the place I've always gone so I'm wondering does anyone know of any better places to try? I'm based in the north Dublin area.

Cheers guys.

DoctorStrange

http://www.campbellsgarage.ie/

I've used these a few times and are really sound

Even fixed a couple of punctures for me for free

Cabra / Ashtown area

ScottStorm

Get a repair kit yourself, I bought one off eBay for less than a tenner. It really is very simple and quick to repair a puncture in a car tyre.

Jesus.

DoctorStrange wrote: »

http://www.campbellsgarage.ie/
I've used these a few times and are really soundEven fixed a couple of punctures for me for freeCabra / Ashtown area

Cheers Doc. I'll check them out.

ScottStorm wrote: »

Get a repair kit yourself, I bought one off eBay for less than a tenner. It really is very simple and quick to repair a puncture in a car tyre.

I'd never thought of doing that for a car tyre. A pushbike maybe but not a car.

Interesting idea Storm. Anyone else repair their own punctures?

MuppetCheck

If you do go down that route you'll need something to pump it up with afterwards as once the screw is out it'll be flat in a couple of seconds.

visual

A puncture should have the trye removed and a patch applied to the inside.

The plug kits are only intended to make a temp repair. Although I do know places that will do and charge for a plug repair because they are lazy and greedy.

Jesus.

visual wrote: »

A puncture should have the trye removed and a patch applied to the inside. .

They don't want to do that though sure they don't mate? They'd much prefer if they wrote the tyre off and flogged you a new one.

Speaking of which, what do they do with the old tyres left behind? Send them back to Bridgestone etc to be melted down and made into new ones?

Suasdaguna1

I've run flats on a Bm.....had a nail in it, utterly plug able....had to go to a main stealer.....did they plug it? .naw they put on a new tyre...300€ thanks very much.

Collecting car I saw them vulture an old dear.....sorry mam we had to put a new tyre on....

Sorry for being slightly off thread but just a heads up.

Damien360

I have always like these guys

FastFit

Unit 3
Knockmitten Ln, Western Industrial Estate, Dublin 12

Have'nt been there in a while but they were always good and happy to point out exactly why the tyre had to be replaced. They aired on the side of caution but would always try repair first.

visual

Jesus. wrote: »

They don't want to do that though sure they don't mate? They'd much prefer if they wrote the tyre off and flogged you a new one.

Speaking of which, what do they do with the old tyres left behind? Send them back to Bridgestone etc to be melted down and made into new ones?

Have to insist they patch and balance and not get bullied into new tyres when not needed.

Now you know where the part worn tyres come from

Kace

How much does it normally run to get a puncture patch put on a car? I must say that I have never been to a tyre place where I have seen them do a patch.

5-10 Euro for the plug, so surely the patch effort must be double that ?

Ken.

Jesus. wrote: »

They don't want to do that though sure they don't mate? They'd much prefer if they wrote the tyre off and flogged you a new one.

Speaking of which, what do they do with the old tyres left behind? Send them back to Bridgestone etc to be melted down and made into new ones?

Old tyres are removed at a charge of €1 per tyre to the tyre place. They are then melted down and turned into artificial football pitches and the rubber matting that you see in some playgrounds.
That's what i was told by the guy who recently changed my tyres.

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

Hi jesus.

Why not post a pic of yhe tyre and the puncture and we can say if it can be repaired and that way you know ?

Or pop into me in the morning in atlas drumcondra and we'll give you an honest answer or at least a swing at fixing it provided its not too bad etc.

visual

Kace wrote: »

How much does it normally run to get a puncture patch put on a car? I must say that I have never been to a tyre place where I have seen them do a patch.

5-10 Euro for the plug, so surely the patch effort must be double that ?

Fast fit opposite crumlin shoping centre charged me 12 euro to patch and balance tyre for a jeep. Very reasonable in my books and would recommend.

I got another tyre repaired close to clondalkin village (waterside) can't rembemer their name.
Patch a tyre and wouldn't balance it saying marking it on side and refitting was enough. Charged 15 euro.. cowboys won't be going back there.

Jesus.

Well I came home to find that the missus had gone to get the tyre repaired and surprise surprsie, comes back with a brand new tyre. Guy said it needed replacing (don't they always).

75 quid lighter now.

(P.S. KSL, just saw your post this minute. Thanks for the offer mate. Wish I had of seen it sooner!)

VeVeX

Jesus. wrote: »

Well I came home to find that the missus had gone to get the tyre repaired and surprise surprsie, comes back with a brand new tyre. Guy said it needed replacing (don't they always).

75 quid lighter now.

(P.S. KSL, just saw your post this minute. Thanks for the offer mate. Wish I had of seen it sooner!)

http://www.btmauk.com/data/files/Minor_repairs_to_passenger_car_and_light_van_tyres_31_May_2011.pdf

Kace

VeVeX wrote: »

http://www.btmauk.com/data/files/Minor_repairs_to_passenger_car_and_light_van_tyres_31_May_2011.pdf

Interesting document. I'd say if you showed up with that to 90% of the tyre places around town, they would run you out of the place - especially when you highlighted that plugs are an unacceptable means of puncture repair.

Jesus.

[QUOTE=VeVeX;85759358http://www.btmauk.com/data/files/Minor_repairs_to_passenger_car_and_light_van_tyres_31_May_2011.pdf[/QUOTE]

Forgive my ignorance but I'm not quite sure what your point is mate?

Renegade Mechanic

Kace wrote: »

Interesting document. I'd say if you showed up with that to 90% of the tyre places around town, they would run you out of the place - especially when you highlighted that plugs are an unacceptable means of puncture repair.

Nope, used correctly on the thread, they outlast the tyre. Ive done hundreds at this stage and not one has failed. Obviously not for use on sidewalls which brings me to my next point.

Hello again jesus:). If a puncture is located in the sidewall or too close, then no matter,how minute the leak is it cannot be repaired for insurance purposes. Too many people sueing if the patch failed and the tyre failed at high speed. (Read, people wouldn't keep checking pressure like they should and once pressure naturally dropped be enough and sidewall started flexing the patch would detach.) OT, They actually can be patched, and Ive patched my own (450 quid for rubber and a sidewall nail that week, like hell I wasnt going to!) , it never failed while the pressure dropped by about 2psi every month across the tyres.

Jesus.

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Hello again jesus:).

Brings a whole new meaning to "talking to God", eh Renegade? :P

Interesting what you say. Truth is, the tyre may well have had to be replaced this time but I don't think I've ever gone to a garage with a flat and come out with the same tyre fixed!

I just get the feeling that perhaps some of these garages might be a wee bit on the take.

Renegade Mechanic

Jesus. wrote: »

Brings a whole new meaning to "talking to God", eh Renegade? :P

Interesting what you say. Truth is, the tyre may well have had to be replaced this time but I don't think I've ever gone to a garage with a flat and come out with the same tyre fixed!

I just get the feeling that perhaps some of these garages might be a wee bit on the take.

Might have some sins need forgiving later:D
I cant say for certain but unfortunately it is an extremely easy thing to do. When I advise a customer that the tyre needs replacing Ill show them the tyre and reason. Generally if Its the side wall, a nasty defect such as a bulge or buckle is spotted or the puncture on tge thread,surface is too big or long as the patch wont cope with a hole much more than 3mm in size. (pretty much all punctures fall below that though). One last point to consider is what can only be found upon removal of a tyre that was initially quoted as being fixable. Upon removal the first thing noticed is an abundance of "black fluff" falling out. This is a collection of rubber particles that break away from the interior sidewalls if the car is driven on the lowered pressure for too long. This indicates that the sidewalls have been compromised and they can no longer support the weight of the car. The next time the pressure is reduced, theyd more than likely blow out. So there are a lot of good reasons to bin a tyre. But lets call a spade a spade here and admit that for some places that may not be enough:o

Stinicker

Jesus. wrote: »

Well I came home to find that the missus had gone to get the tyre repaired and surprise surprsie, comes back with a brand new tyre. Guy said it needed replacing (don't they always).

75 quid lighter now.

(P.S. KSL, just saw your post this minute. Thanks for the offer mate. Wish I had of seen it sooner!)

What sort of tyre was she sold, let me guess it was a cheap chinese ditch finder at about at 150% markup. If so go back and demand they remove it and fit something worth €75. There is an awful lot cowboys in the tyre industry and I always get my tyres from my uncle who is in the motor trade and he orders in most of his tyres on next day delivery and won't fit a cheap tyre because they are too dangerous.

veetwin

Suasdaguna1 wrote: »

I've run flats on a Bm.....had a nail in it, utterly plug able....had to go to a main stealer.....did they plug it? .naw they put on a new tyre...300€ thanks very much.

Collecting car I saw them vulture an old dear.....sorry mam we had to put a new tyre on....

Sorry for being slightly off thread but just a heads up.

In fairness anyone who goes to a BMW main dealer to repair a puncture deserves to get their pants taken down.

myshirt

veetwin wrote: »

In fairness anyone who goes to a BMW main dealer to repair a puncture deserves to get their pants taken down.

+1

Can I add on the topic and ask about my situation.
I got a 1 inch screw stuck in the flat of my tyre; pulled it out, cleaned it and plugged with a gummy. No air leakage when sprayed with water.

Put air in with footpump, drove off out the motorway for c. 10 miles, checked air at garage on other side.

All fine.

I now read on this thread that there is arguments this is only suitable for temp repair.

Am I ok? Do I need to go to tyre shop?

First time this ever happened me so forgive me if I'm an idiot.

I've the baby in the car with me a lot, so you know, safety is at the top of my concerns

Renegade Mechanic

myshirt wrote: »

+1

Can I add on the topic and ask about my situation.
I got a 1 inch screw stuck in the flat of my tyre; pulled it out, cleaned it and plugged with a gummy. No air leakage when sprayed with water.

Put air in with footpump, drove off out the motorway for c. 10 miles, checked air at garage on other side.

All fine.

I now read on this thread that there is arguments this is only suitable for temp repair.

Am I ok? Do I need to go to tyre shop?

First time this ever happened me so forgive me if I'm an idiot.

I've the baby in the car with me a lot, so you know, safety is at the top of my concerns

If Its the one where you thread a sticky blacy tarry thread through a.. essentially a screwdriver with an eye at the end and all the rest then yes, Its good to outlast the tyre if done right. Where on tge tyre was it?

visual

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

If Its the one where you thread a sticky blacy tarry thread through a.. essentially a screwdriver with an eye at the end and all the rest then yes, Its good to outlast the tyre if done right. Where on tge tyre was it?

Why then do the manufacturers of these plug kits tell you its only suitable for temporary repair. Also why would a good trye shop also give the same advice. .stating that the only correct way is to take tyre off rim clean and patch the puncture from the inside refit tyre and balance.

myshirt

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

If Its the one where you thread a sticky blacy tarry thread through a.. essentially a screwdriver with an eye at the end and all the rest then yes, Its good to outlast the tyre if done right. Where on tge tyre was it?

Right on the rib of the tyre; the contact surface; away from the thread; that flat smooth bit.

Photo attached to illustrate.

Renegade Mechanic

visual wrote: »

Why then do the manufacturers of these plug kits tell you its only suitable for temporary repair. Also why would a good trye shop also give the same advice. .stating that the only correct way is to take tyre off rim clean and patch the puncture from the inside refit tyre and balance.

I just dont know... They were the norm up to a few years ago and all of a sudden it became "illegal" and "temporary only" Ive used them. I will still use them for myself and will not stop. One tyre did 40 thousand miles. About 35k of that was with that string. The idea that it can fall out is hard for me to fathom. The plug fills the hole. Its extremely sticky and whats left inside is a lump far far bigger than the hole and whats left outside is cut flush with the tyre. The hole thing can take less than the time it takes to boil a kettle. My car passed its nct with one it three of its tyres. Now they are definitely not safe for sidewall use. There are a few reasons I can guess why theyre not allowed now. One is that people did use them on sidewalls and it was easier to ban them than trust that they wouldnt. Too many people had easy access to this and didnt do it right or store the kit correctly (which would actually lead to problems, in fairness) and of course, sueing likely ensued...Or that they can (supposedly) dislodge if the pressure of the tyre drops and goes ignored (which will ruin the tyre anyway). After that, theres price.
1: Typically in one garage I worked that string method of repair cost a fiver. And this was much less than ten years ago so it was,in the boom.
2: A puncture now, can take 15-20 minutes and garages can charge more for the time spent. Most places charge 15 euro, some as much as 20.

Renegade Mechanic

myshirt wrote: »

Right on the rib of the tyre; the contact surface; away from the thread; that flat smooth bit.

Photo attached to illustrate.

Might get my eyes tested, cant see it at all:D
I took the liberty of saving and editing it though.

Anything behind that red line is, or at least was ok. I wouldnt put anything after.

myshirt

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

Might get my eyes tested, cant see it at all:D
I took the liberty of saving and editing it though.

Anything behind that red line is, or at least was ok. I wouldnt put anything after.

That is not my tyre, I just googled an image to illustrate.

I have the exact same tyre though.

The screw went in the smooth strip part of the tyre you see in the image there. It was about an inch long.

Renegade Mechanic

myshirt wrote: »

That is not my tyre, I just googled an image to illustrate.

I have the exact same tyre though.

The screw went in the smooth strip part of the tyre you see in the image there. It was about an inch long.

It should be fine. If you pushed in the string, leaving a small bit of each end sticking out, twisted it (5 turns about) pulled it out till the eye of the driver was about the width of your finger over the surface of the puncture then cut the whole lot flush then I see no reason for it to fail.

Renegade Mechanic

Kits like these:

even come with vulcanising glue to add to the already very sticky strings. Now the red/brown lines are for very large holes the likes of which a tractor might suffer. I dont know much on their lastability.

myshirt

Renegade Mechanic wrote: »

It should be fine. If you pushed in the string, leaving a small bit of each end sticking out, twisted it (5 turns about) pulled it out till the eye of the driver was about the width of your finger over the surface of the puncture then cut the whole lot flush then I see no reason for it to fail.

Well, I have driven the bones of 50 miles on it already! I only done it yesterday afternoon.

Tyre pressure still fine.

Hope that's the acid test!

VeVeX

VeVeX wrote: »

http://www.btmauk.com/data/files/Minor_repairs_to_passenger_car_and_light_van_tyres_31_May_2011.pdf

Jesus. wrote: »

Forgive my ignorance but I'm not quite sure what your point is mate?

Jesus. wrote: »

Interesting what you say. Truth is, the tyre may well have had to be replaced this time but I don't think I've ever gone to a garage with a flat and come out with the same tyre fixed!

I just get the feeling that perhaps some of these garages might be a wee bit on the take.

My point is that if you read the document I linked to you'd be in a much better position to understand when punctures can be repaired. Arming yourself with a bit of knowledge prior to a paid interaction with a company is always advisable.