Students sing petition to legalise 4th trimester abortions

jesus, how stupid can some people be 4th trimester? really .:P

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4872


ok, sign even..

mods why cant we edit the title too

Chucken

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clairefontaine

Jake1 wrote: »

jesus, how stupid can some people be 4th trimester? really .:P

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4872


ok, sign even..

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The fourth trimester is commonly referred to the first three months of the baby's life when it is adjusting to life outside of the womb and is in astate of pure fusion with the mother, and also while the mothers body is still holding the attributed and conditions of pregnancy.

clairefontaine

clairefontaine wrote: »

The fourth trimester is commonly referred to the first three months of the baby's life when it is adjusting to life outside of the womb and is in astate of pure fusion with the mother, and also while the mothers body is still holding the attributed and conditions of pregnancy.

eh yeah I know that, but these students obviously didnt They voted to abort a baby that would be already born.

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conorhal

Jake1 wrote: »

jesus, how stupid can some people be 4th trimester? really .:P

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/?ID=4872


ok, sign even..

mods why cant we edit the title too

Well... who hasn't looked at their little sh!t of a kid proudly holding up a turd and saying 'look at what I made daddy!' and thought, Jesus, I'd really like a 'do over'.....

On the other hand, the video does however show how frightening the pro abortion crowd are in their ideological narcisism. Anything as long as I don't have to bother with the above....

awec

Fcuking students...

humbert

Devils advocate: What makes a first trimester abortion OK that is not the case in a fourth trimester abortion? Inside/outside the body is, objectively speaking, hardly important. Looking human/moving like a human is hardly important. So what is the difference?

RobbingBandit

Hope it was a beautiful song the murdering bastards;)

anncoates

I know a lot of students are surprisingly thick but to think the human gestation period is 12 months....

Femme_Fatale

Dumbfuks.

humbert wrote: »

Devils advocate: What makes a first trimester abortion OK that is not the case in a fourth trimester abortion? Inside/outside the body is, objectively speaking, hardly important. Looking human/moving like a human is hardly important. So what is the difference?

Sentience.

conorhal

humbert wrote: »

Devils advocate: What makes a first trimester abortion OK that is not the case in a fourth trimester abortion? Inside/outside the body is, objectively speaking, hardly important. Looking human/moving like a human is hardly important. So what is the difference?

Objectively, you are talking like a psychopath.

Knasher

I get what he is trying to demonstrate. But I'm pretty sure if I stood outside and asked people to sign a petition to ban sodium chloride, a substance which is known to cause strokes, high blood pressure and stomach cancer, I could find 14 people to sign.

At the very least he could have said how many people realised his trick.

conorhal

Knasher wrote: »

I get what he is trying to demonstrate. But I'm pretty sure if I stood outside and asked people to sign a petition to ban sodium chloride, a substance which is known to cause strokes, high blood pressure and stomach cancer, I could find 14 people to sign.

At the very least he could have said how many people realised his trick.

At the very least, we shoud ban salt, and permit 4th trimerster abortions! James Reilley would aplaud.....

At the very most it demonstrates how little value we place on a human life and how little that consideration or thought we have for the concept of life, that is, well, worrying. How little we actually THINK I mean.






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anncoates

humbert wrote: »

So what is the difference?

Birth. Indepebdant existence.

Jester252

What a case to rise the voting age.

humbert

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Sentience.

Could you define that for me?

conorhal wrote: »

Objectively, you are talking like a psychopath.

Is the capacity to be objective on an emotional issue a sufficient requirement to be considered a psychopath?

anncoates wrote: »

Birth. Independent existence.

All animals do that...

clairefontaine

anncoates wrote: »

Birth. Indepebdant existence.

If that's the argument, that life is guaranteed for the independent, that puts along list of people on the chopping block.

shruikan2553

The reason to have an abortion is to end a pregnancy for whatever reason. Once the baby is born the pregnancy is already finished.

Mardy Bum

14 students don't know what fourth trimester means somewhere in America.

In other news a large percentage of the American population does not believe in evolution.

Knasher

conorhal wrote: »

At the very most it demonstrates how little value we place on a human life and how little that consideration or thought we have for the concept of life, that is, well, worrying. How little we actually THINK I mean.

Jester252 wrote: »

What a case to rise the voting age.

And here are people signing to repeal the bill of rights, i.e. the part of the American constitution which guarantees their freedom of speech, bear arms, a fair trial among others. And not just students either, people in their 40's. It doesn't prove that people don't value human life, or freedom of speech.

All it proves is that some people are dumb.

Which is hardly a revelation.

jank

Femme_Fatale wrote: »

Consciousness, awareness, senses... I think anyway.

There's obviously a massive difference between the first trimester and the last, in terms of physical/neurological development. It's why I'm personally not really in favour of late-term abortion.

Why do you hate woman!
A woman's right to choose should have higher precedent over all other rights!!!

Irish Guitarist

It's probably not too late for those students parents to abort them.

bumper234

You're all shocked because a bunch of kids didn't know that the 4th trimester refers to the first 3 months of a babies life and were therefore tricked into signing an idiotic petition? Do you think any of them would have signed if the guy said "hey we are petitioning to allow parents to murder their children up to the age of 3 months"? Also Americans lol.

Grayson

humbert wrote: »

Could you define that for me?

You ever hear of a dictionary? Stop being a pedantic troll. It's non productive and boring. Entertaining trolls I can forgive but the second someone starts asking for dictionary definitions I think they're an unimaginative moron.

And what it matters the difference between the first and 4th is that at the 4th trimester it's a fcuking baby. In the first trimester it's a tadpole.

Grayson

bumper234 wrote: »

You're all shocked because a bunch of kids didn't know that the 4th trimester refers to the first 3 months of a babies life and were therefore tricked into signing an idiotic petition? Do you think any of them would have signed if the guy said "hey we are petitioning to allow parents to murder their children up to the age of 3 months"? Also Americans lol.

This is a country where most cannot locate Iraq on a map. A country they were at war with.

Akrasia

Knasher wrote: »

I get what he is trying to demonstrate. But I'm pretty sure if I stood outside and asked people to sign a petition to ban sodium chloride, a substance which is known to cause strokes, high blood pressure and stomach cancer, I could find 14 people to sign.

At the very least he could have said how many people realised his trick.

Yeah, this was a really sh1t video.
How many people did he ask that said no?

All it showed is that some people will sign stuff without understanding what they're signing.

Grayson

Knasher wrote: »

And here are people signing to repeal the bill of rights, i.e. the part of the American constitution which guarantees their freedom of speech, bear arms, a fair trial among others. And not just students either, people in their 40's. It doesn't prove that people don't value human life, or freedom of speech.

All it proves is that some people are dumb.

Which is hardly a revelation.

I've always loved this video.

How many sides does a triangle have? 4
Name a country beginning with U? Utah.
What religion are buddhist monks? Muslim.

there's probably enough people who answered correctly and were never shown, but there's enough dumb fcuks to make an entertaining show.

EDIT: BTW, this was filmed about 10 years ago.

humbert

Grayson wrote: »

You ever hear of a dictionary? Stop being a pedantic troll. It's non productive and boring. Entertaining trolls I can forgive but the second someone starts asking for dictionary definitions I think they're an unimaginative moron.

And what it matters the difference between the first and 4th is that at the 4th trimester it's a fcuking baby. In the first trimester it's a tadpole.

Reading that I can't help imagining you jumping up and down all read-faced.

Sentience seems to have many subtly different definitions, some of which could apply to many animals and some which wouldn't, so I didn't want to respond without establishing exactly what Femme Fatale meant.

What I'm curious about is whether a fourth trimester baby is self-aware, which I've always considered the defining quality of being human.

My name is URL

The petition was run by 'Media Research Center', who obviously have their own agenda.

This isn't even worth talking about really, only 14 people signed the stupid thing. No doubt it will be used as fodder by pro-life campaigners though.

Pompey Magnus

humbert wrote: »

What I'm curious about is whether a fourth trimester baby is self-aware, which I've always considered the defining quality of being human.

People in a deep coma are not sentient or self aware, no one would claim that they lose their humanity during the coma so sentience must not be a prerequisite for something being defined as "human".

Artful_Badger

News just in, students sign petitions willy nilly :eek:

Daily Mail would be embarrassed to give time to this crap ffs.

The Corinthian

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

People in a deep coma are not sentient or self aware, no one would claim that they lose their humanity during the coma so sentience must not be a prerequisite for something being defined as "human".

Don't confuse sapience and sentience. One can be sentient without being 'sapient' or self aware - infants and fetuses are not, for example.

Of course, I've never been quite sure why just because you've not developed sentience yet (not to be confused with 'will never') doesn't make you a human being. Then again, if it doesn't look like a baby and you can mutter something about sentience or something else you don't actually understand, but sounds intellectual, it's probably a good enough definition, as any, for most of the hoi polloi.