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College degree in Ireland versus elsewhere.
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24-07-2013 8:28pm#1Apologies Mods, I know this is more of a college thread, move if you wish, however, I feel in AH there will be more traffic (even though a lot will be spammers / trolls :rolleyes: ), but I will get a better chance of a response here, and it will more likely be on the hitlist.
How come in most Irish Universities it’s the case where if you fail on of your final year exams, you are stuck with a pass degree, or, in the case of a friend of mine’s, if you fail the exam twice, ie, in the supplemental, you are stuck with a pass degree. Should you not be allowed to get whatever degree classification you are entitled to, based on your exam results (taking the repeat capped at 40%).
In America, as far as I’m aware, you can take a final exam YEARS later and still get your full degree. In Ireland, in general, you do a degree and you have to take all or leave all, there are very few electives, and mostly core subjects. In America, you can be admitted to the University and you can tailor make your own science course. Why is this not the case here? It shouldn’t really be how long you took to know the material, rather the fact that you know it.
This can severely hinder people going on to a masters degree in an area of their choice, just because they fail one module which they have no interest in, which in a lot of cases, was introduced or changed at the last minute or halfway through a persons degree. It’s ridiculous how things work here.
In certain colleges, you are not allowed to repeat 4th year to get a better degree, why is this not allowed ?? If you are going to pay more money to the Uni / College then why does it make a difference ???? You should be able to do this, you could probably do this in other countries.
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Whatsernamex33 wrote: »Apologies Mods, I know this is more of a college thread, move if you wish, however, I feel in AH there will be more traffic (even though a lot will be spammers / trolls :rolleyes: ), but I will get a better chance of a response here, and it will more likely be on the hitlist.
How come in most Irish Universities it’s the case where if you fail on of your final year exams, you are stuck with a pass degree, or, in the case of a friend of mine’s, if you fail the exam twice, ie, in the supplemental, you are stuck with a pass degree. Should you not be allowed to get whatever degree classification you are entitled to, based on your exam results (taking the repeat capped at 40%).
In America, as far as I’m aware, you can take a final exam YEARS later and still get your full degree. In Ireland, in general, you do a degree and you have to take all or leave all, there are very few electives, and mostly core subjects. In America, you can be admitted to the University and you can tailor make your own science course. Why is this not the case here? It shouldn’t really be how long you took to know the material, rather the fact that you know it.
This can severely hinder people going on to a masters degree in an area of their choice, just because they fail one module which they have no interest in, which in a lot of cases, was introduced or changed at the last minute or halfway through a persons degree. It’s ridiculous how things work here.
In certain colleges, you are not allowed to repeat 4th year to get a better degree, why is this not allowed ?? If you are going to pay more money to the Uni / College then why does it make a difference ???? You should be able to do this, you could probably do this in other countries.
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Sounds like you are thinking about moving to America. Have fun!
In the United States people pay a fortune to go to college which in turn funds all of the electives and great variety. They rely more on the credits system. Ireland will likely never be able to afford to provide such level of choice with electives. Also there's many good quality for profit institutes there to keep the competition and quality of courses up, it's not as tight knit as our own setup.
Also in fairness, Ireland has already been spending a fortune on education and look at the results. There's colleges in countries which never had the economic boom that we did and likely never had the investment in their education system that we have and they have better colleges. All a degree proves is that you have the capacity to be trained and learn.
If you fail an exam, I don't think you are entitled to anything...0 -
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