Ballinrobe gamble exposed.

finbarrk

Suppose there will be penalties for the trainers involved in this scam last night. Seemingly backed from 50/1 down to 3/1 during the day. No wonder the stewards got suspicious.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/racing/irish/2013/0722/464051-ballinrobe-review-like-a-diamond-withdrawn/

Leroy42

With this, the whole doping scandal in the UK, surely everyone can see that horse racing is about as much to do with with sport as WWE..

Not scripted, but so much money is available from rigging results that it is nonsense to think that it is not being done, especially for the smaller meetings

Slattsy

Filthy.

emffb1

The trainer in question will almost certainly lose her licence. I don't know what she was thinking. The Turf Club are clamping down on this type of behaviour. It is widespread. It is small trainers like her who are struggling that are being targeted by guys who want to pull off a gamble. I know lots of behind the scenes facts about this but i am probably not supposed to post them here. One thing i can say is that the horse had no hope of winning and that is a fact, so i don't know what the plan was.

rockycelt

emffb1 wrote: »

The trainer in question will almost certainly lose her licence. I don't know what she was thinking. The Turf Club are clamping down on this type of behaviour. It is widespread. It is small trainers like her who are struggling that are being targeted by guys who want to pull off a gamble. I know lots of behind the scenes facts about this but i am probably not supposed to post them here. One thing i can say is that the horse had no hope of winning and that is a fact, so i don't know what the plan was.

That surely doesn't make sense. There would be no other reason for doing this.
The gamble would contradict what you're saying mate

emffb1

I know it is a contradiction. That is why I said I don't know what the plan was. I know someone who had the horse before he ended up where he was and he is nothing special.There are performance enhancing substances available so maybe that was part of the plan.

mike65

Shorten the price which in such a race would not take much money at all and then lay the feck out of it? Would that work as a scam?

emffb1

Who knows. There are new scams every day of the week. I just know that the 'owners' know what they are doing. Unfortunately it is the trainer who will take the fall as usual. She was up against the stewards last week for holding onto a passport for a horse. She was probably owed money like most of us are and the passport is your last hope of collecting, but you have to hand it over.

Winning Ways Racing

It could also have been a false gamble. A small amount of money moves it from 33/1 to 3/1. It loses. They do the same again with the same horse or another horse and it loses. Then you line up your good one and the books don't react as much when bets come in as the stats man will tell them its a losing stable. Just another way of doing it.

realdanbreen

emffb1 wrote: »

. I know lots of behind the scenes facts about this ......./..., so i don't know what the plan was.

Which is it?
Do you know the facts or not?:cool:

emffb1

I didnt say i knew everything.

Leroy42

Does anybody really believe that horse racing isn't fixed? I mean come on. Maybe at the very highest level it is about the prize of winning the trophy but below that it is all about gambling so it seems naive at best to think that the trainers/jockeys/owners are not manipulating results to their own end.

We even have bookies coming on radio shows giving us their tips, does no one else see the massive contraction in this. A bookies livelyhood is dependent on you losing