Working and drawing the dole.

badger86

Hi there.

I am not sure whether I am in the correct forum or not but I have a question on drawing social welfare.

At present I am working in a full time permanent position in a government agency. I have become a newly qualified primary school teacher and would like to pursue this area as soon as possible despite the unstable nature of my work.

I am considering reducing my hours to work part time and draw social welfare to enable me to source subbing roles and get my face into schools as they say. My query is can someone work a certain amount of hours per week and still be eligible to draw the dole.

I figure that if I work say, 12 hours a week where I am at present and draw the dole, I will not be losing out too much from my regular salary and will need to work anti-social hours (I'm mad into G.A.A and sports in general) in order to make myself available to teach.

Apologies if this is a stupid question. I am totally uneducated on social welfare entitlements etc..

Richie ae86

as far as i know, it goes by days not hours ie. if you work 4 hours or 12hours on any day, you must sign off for that day. i think the most you can claim for is 3 days, hope that helps a bit

murrak123

I think when you choose yourself to cut your hours you are not entitled to draw the dole for a certain period of time after. I think its up on 9-12 weeks.It counts on days worked and not hours. So if you work 2.5 hours a day you might not be entitled to anything wheras if you work 2 days a week you may be able to claim for the other three days. It also depends on what your personal means are and how many prsi contributions you would have made since 2011.

badger86

So if I intended to work just 2 days a week I would be entitled to full allowance. I could ask my employer to manufacture a letter whereby it would state I had been deemed surplus to requirements.

The way I see it, with the dole, rent allowance and the other benefits that come with this I would be almost as financially well of as if I stayed working...

Philip82

Here you are

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/means_test_for_social_welfare_payments/work_and_jobseekers_allowance.html

murrak123

not necessarly. job seeekers allowance is means tested so if you are earnin over 200 quid on your living alone you prob wont get a penny. If your living with a partner their means are also counted as well..... you may be entitled to sign for prsi credits for your pension.

Outkast_IRE

If you choose to cut your own hours, I don't think your eligible.

wmpdd3

If you cut your hours today and Putin a claim tomorrow, it will be 9 Weeks until you will be able to be paid.

I doubt you will be able to claim rent allowance.

Jsb runs out after a set amount of days.

Your employer will be sent a number of letters asking when you will return to full time employment.

stevenmu

badger86 wrote: »

I could ask my employer to manufacture a letter whereby it would state I had been deemed surplus to requirements.

How confident are you that your employer will be willing to help you commit welfare fraud?

Mrs OBumble

badger86 wrote: »

I could ask my employer to manufacture a letter whereby it would state I had been deemed surplus to requirements.

Until I saw this bit, I was just going to move the thread over to State Benefits. Actually I might just do that anyway, and let the mods there decide if you should get a warning etc.

But to be quite clear, what you are proposing is fraud, pure and simple.

The fact that you would even consider it raises some interesting questions about your suitability for working in a state agency, or for teaching.

cee_jay

What you are suggesting is welfare fraud - pure and simple.
Social Welfare are well clued in on people attempting these "tricks" and checks are done with employers on a frequent basis. Somehow I don't think your employer would like to be complicit in your welfare fraud as they can also be prosecuted for this.
As discussion of Social Welfare fraud is strictly forbidden (as per forum charter and Boards.ie rules) this thread will now be closed.