Spanner warning symbol on 2013 Ford Fiesta?

Mr Cumulonimbus

The symbol below with the associated message comes on from time to time in my 2013 Fiesta (1.6 Powershift). Only appears on startup, never comes on (yet anyway) when running.

Park for a while, restart and its gone off. Will not appear then for a few weeks. Brought it into the local Ford dealer, they couldn't find any faults logged. They did a software upgrade though. It's re-appeared a couple of times since the upgrade was done a couple of months ago. The owners manual (page 59) lists it as a powertrain warning lamp despite message shown.

A faulty sensor or an actual engine problem?

thebull09

Afaik thats your service light which means your car is due a service,

you can reset it yourself by pressing the brake and accelerator together for about 10_15 seconds it should switch it off, although your car needs to be servicesd

Mr Cumulonimbus

thebull09 wrote: »

Afaik thats your service light which means your car is due a service,

you can reset it yourself by pressing the brake and accelerator together for about 10_15 seconds it should switch it off, although your car needs to be servicesd

Bought in early February, now around 4200 km on the clock. First came on in March when around 1000 km done. Should it come on so soon?

colm_mcm

Its not a service reminder.

thebull09

My apologizes i thought your car was 2012 {speed reading} no it shouldnt be on IF its your service light, did you try to reset it by pressing the brake and accel together, if it doesnt work id be bringing it back to the garage

Mr Cumulonimbus

thebull09 wrote: »

My apologizes i thought your car was 2012 {speed reading} no it shouldnt be on IF its your service light, did you try to reset it by pressing the brake and accel together, if it doesnt work id be bringing it back to the garage

Didnt get a chance to try that. Its gone off now. Comes on during start up. Never comes on or goes off when engine running or when driving. Turn off engine, leave for a few minutes, restart and its gone off.

Its irregular in occurence. Went about 5 weeks without an incident, now it's happened twice in about 2 weeks.

bazz26

The car is still under Ford warranty so bring it back to the dealer to be checked.

testicle

bazz26 wrote: »

The car is still under Ford warranty so bring it back to the dealer to be checked.

if only they already had! ;-)

unkel

testicle wrote: »

if only they already had! ;-)

Not good enough though!

Car is brand new, it should not have engine lights showing up. If I were the OP, I would start logging all calls / emails to the Ford dealer and start issuing timelines / ultimatums with the view that if the issue is not sorted within a reasonable period of time, I'd want a new car or a full refund. No judge in this country is going to find in favour of the dealer should it go to court

Guy:Incognito

unkel wrote: »

Not good enough though!

Car is brand new, it should not have engine lights showing up. If I were the OP, I would start logging all calls / emails to the Ford dealer and start issuing timelines / ultimatums with the view that if the issue is not sorted within a reasonable period of time, I'd want a new car or a full refund. No judge in this country is going to find in favour of the dealer should it go to court

If theres no faults showing and it doesnt hapoen when the garage have it though how are they to know the op isnt some headcase making stuff up? Anyone that works in retail will attest to this kind of customer existing.

Ah the joys of intermittant problems.

unkel

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If theres no faults showing and it doesnt hapoen when the garage have it

I presume the OP brought it to the garage while the light was on

unkel

That's a bargain Xantia you have in your sig, Stephen. They were all hydropneumatic, weren't they? Sorry for off topic

irelandspurs

Back in 04 i had a new seat ibiza and same thing was happening with mine but when light would come on i'd get slight hesitation then light would go off,had it in with seat 4 times coming back saying they couldn't find a fault and they changed this and that only to go away on holiday for 2 weeks to come back to car not starting.Turned out to be water in the petrol and had damaged the fuel pump,well that's what they said anyway and tried to say it wasn't covered under warranty as was contaminated fuel. :rolleyes:

Mr Cumulonimbus

unkel wrote: »

I presume the OP brought it to the garage while the light was on

Yip. First time it happened. Parked it in the forecourt. Guy came out to check, and whaddyaknow, no warning symbol. They did a diagnostic, couldn't find anything, but did software upgrade at that time. As already said, the joys of intermittant faults!

Just wondering though, should a fault be stored (if genuine or not) for later examination whenever the warning indicators come on?

colm_mcm

If you google it you'll see many other instances of this happening where it just comes and goes

KT10

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

If theres no faults showing and it doesnt hapoen when the garage have it though how are they to know the op isnt some headcase making stuff up? Anyone that works in retail will attest to this kind of customer existing.

Ah the joys of intermittant problems.

Good point, I suppose OP could take a video of it next time it happens to show it is happening?

Mr Cumulonimbus

colm_mcm wrote: »

If you google it you'll see many other instances of this happening where it just comes and goes

Thanks, Colm. Yes googled it alright. Quite a few have experienced this it seems. Checked oil level. Thats ok. Engine temp normal.

Faulty sensor the most likely cause of it?

Guy:Incognito

unkel wrote: »

That's a bargain Xantia you have in your sig, Stephen. They were all hydropneumatic, weren't they? Sorry for off topic

Only seeing this now. Yeah, wasnt till the current c5 that they started with springs on the lower spec ones .

unkel

Do yourself a favour and put it up in the bangernomics thread. It's a bargain!

Guy:Incognito

unkel wrote: »

Do yourself a favour and put it up in the bangernomics thread. It's a bargain!

Someone else posted it a couple of weeks back. Would you believe ive had two people contact me about it since its up. one person by text and then not follow up. Thw other rang and asked about the engine , he was looking to break to to fix his own. I highly doubt he had one in better condition to warrant breaking it tbh. He didnt call back in any case.Other than that no interest.its on dd and adverts.

I can only assume its because its french and a large amount of people automatically reject the idea.

Its actually been great o have and use the way I have over the last 5 and a half years. Every time I got a commercial (3 times) or another car (twice) then went back to the xantia after a few months id nearly have fogotten how comfortable it was to drive. Floating over bumps. Most recently it was for the nct. Had a great run down to naas in it.


Im debating whether to keep the citroen car club sticker and put it on the volvo :-)

Ronnie Beck

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Someone else posted it a couple of weeks back. Would you believe ive had two people contact me about it since its up. one person by text and then not follow up. Thw other rang and asked about the engine , he was looking to break to to fix his own. I highly doubt he had one in better condition to warrant breaking it tbh. He didnt call back in any case.Other than that no interest.its on dd and adverts.

I can only assume its because its french and a large amount of people automatically reject the idea.

Its actually been great o have and use the way I have over the last 5 and a half years. Every time I got a commercial (3 times) or another car (twice) then went back to the xantia after a few months id nearly have fogotten how comfortable it was to drive. Floating over bumps. Most recently it was for the nct. Had a great run down to naas in it.


Im debating whether to keep the citroen car club sticker and put it on the volvo :-)

Is it on done deal too?

unkel

Ronnie Beck wrote: »

Is it on done deal too?

Probably not. Stephen, trust me (and Ronnie Beck). Spend your €3 and put it on donedeal. It will sell. Probably the cheapest hydropneumatic car with a long NCT in the country