22nd July -

mike65

Ayr nearly might as well not have bothered today! The money on offer is pretty decent with a few C4 and a C3 race, so its not that which is keeping anyone away. Is it the conditions? 35 horses still running as I type.

Harry Angstrom

It's probably the fast ground. This used to be a good card once upon a time. They used to run the Group 3 Scottish Classic at this Ayr Monday meeting until they started messing around with the fixture list to create more dross, and the Scottish Classic was no more.

Oscars Well.

Like a Diamond opened at 50/1 in places this morning, now as short as 3/1.

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/ballinrobe/19:10/winner

Niallers87

Oscars Well. wrote: »

Like a Diamond opened at 50/1 in places this morning, now as short as 3/1.

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/ballinrobe/19:10/winner

i was just about to post about him, has anyone heard anything about him?!

is he worth a punt or is it just the bookies playing with the odds?!!

it looks like wayne lordans only ride in ballinrobe tonight?

TG860

Niallers87 wrote: »

i was just about to post about him, has anyone heard anything about him?!

is he worth a punt or is it just the bookies playing with the odds?!!

it looks like wayne lordans only ride in ballinrobe tonight?

Now a non-runner!

Johner

Definte Row is out again tonight. 5/2

First time out over hurdles and should take all the beating in a weak mares maiden hurdle at 7.40. Won easily at Hexham in a bumper before two seconds at Perth under a penalty. The 4th from her bumper 2nd at Perth gave the form a nice boost when it hacked up in a maiden hurdle at Cartmel a few days ago. She's a strong travelling mare, trip and ground are ideal.

Colonel Sanders

TG860 wrote: »

Now a non-runner!

Connections must be gutted. They won't get 50s next time out

Oscars Well.

Don't think there's any way they would've beaten Welds there, hacked up.

Niallers87

Possibly one to keep an eye on with galway coming!!

NoelJ

Did King William win and Hospital come 2nd in the Ballinrobe 20:40?

Johner

NoelJ wrote: »

Did King William win and Hospital come 2nd in the Ballinrobe 20:40?

Yeah.

Johner

The stewards withdrew that horse earlier that was gambled from 50/1 to 11/4! :eek:

Johner

MYSTERY surrounded an eyecatching gamble and subsequent stewards' withdrawal of Like A Diamond at Ballinrobe on Monday night after officials announced they were concerned the three-year-old was not in the care of his stated trainer.

An unraced gelding, Like A Diamond was initially priced up at 50-1 by bookmakers before he was rapidly shortened, reaching a low of 11-4 with Paddy Power for the 1m1f maiden, in which he was due to be ridden by Wayne Lordan.

The stewards received a report from Chris Gordon, Turf Club senior security officer, who stated Like A Diamond was not trained at the registered licensed premises of Sharon Dunphy at Drish, Thurles, County Tipperary but at another premises in the neighbourhood.

Evidence was heard from Dunphy which included her acceptance of Gordon's report into the matter.

Evidence was also heard from groom Fabian Burke, who had entered the racecourse stables on a temporary pass to work for Dunphy last night.

Having considered the report and the subsequent evidence and in particular the admission by Dunphy that Like A Diamond was not trained from her licensed training establishment as required by rule 147 (vi), the stewards ordered the horse's withdrawal and referred the matter to the Turf Club.

The gamble was described as "a bit funny" by Liam Glynn of Boylesports, who said: "We inserted it at 33-1 this morning and we had quite significant support all morning and were forced to go 16-1, then 10s, 7s and I think we got as low as 3-1.

"It came across as a genuine gamble, this wasn't just a bookies' move, although it was a bit funny as the trainer had not had a winner since St Stephen's Day [December 26]."

rossom

Clearly comes across to me that Like A Diamond has been trained by Kevin Prendergast and looked after specifically by Fabian Burke. Burke, who joined the Sharon Dunphy stable last night, obviously knows the horse very well and was probably going to be at the course to make sure Like A Diamond didn't get too wound up.

****ing ridiculously dodgy ****.

I also love the effective admission by the Boyles rep that "bookies' moves" do exist!

UrbanSea

Would be very surprised if it was Kevin Prendergast too big a stable for that carry on no?

Gringo180

If you ever needed proof that racing in Ireland is corrupt, well the pulling of that gamble is it, thats why I would never back a horse in Ireland unless it was a Group race, rotten to the core.

Colonel Sanders

UrbanSea wrote: »

Would be very surprised if it was Kevin Prendergast too big a stable for that carry on no?

Not so sure about that. Wasn't O'Grady involved in the Gay Future affair & Tye Martin Pipe/David Johnson combo in a similar coup in 2004 (remember it as it was the Friday of Sandown's Tingle Creek meeting)

UrbanSea

Yeah but O Grady is as straight as a curve would you associate Prendergast with a stunt like that but i guess you can never be sure

Harry Angstrom

rossom wrote: »

Clearly comes across to me that Like A Diamond has been trained by Kevin Prendergast and looked after specifically by Fabian Burke. Burke, who joined the Sharon Dunphy stable last night, obviously knows the horse very well and was probably going to be at the course to make sure Like A Diamond didn't get too wound up.

****ing ridiculously dodgy ****.

I also love the effective admission by the Boyles rep that "bookies' moves" do exist!

Doesn't Kevin Prendergast train in Kildare? According to the report, the horse "was not trained at the registered licensed premises of Sharon Dunphy at Drish, Thurles, County Tipperary but at another premises in the neighbourhood".

carmanard

Daniel Mark Loughnane, he who is in hot water with the BHA at the moment, used to operate down around Thurles IIRC... Serious stuff, Barney Curley would have been proud of that gamble had it paid off...

Oscars Well.

Tommy Stack, Denis Hogan and Charlie Swan are all close enough to the yard in question. They all like to land a good punt too

bellybuster12

Oscars Well. wrote: »

Tommy Stack, Denis Hogan and Charlie Swan are all close enough to the yard in question. They all like to land a good punt too

Both train in cloughjordan which would be and hour away from thurles, pretty sure they said in the same neighbourhood.

Either way this story is sure to be interesting.

Oscars Well.

bellybuster12 wrote: »

Both train in cloughjordan which would be and hour away from thurles, pretty sure they said in the same neighbourhood.

Either way this story is sure to be interesting.

Ah cheers, didn't think it was quite that far.

mohican22

Very interesting indeed im guessing Tommy Stacks as Wayne Lordan jockey there and yard is near there too

Harry Angstrom

How did they expect to get away with this? A horse goes from 50/1 to 11/4 for a shyte maiden in Ballinrobe and they wouldn't think it would alert the suspicions of the racing authorities and the bookies???

MinisterJD

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

How did they expect to get away with this? A horse goes from 50/1 to 11/4 for a shyte maiden in Ballinrobe and they wouldn't think it would alert the suspicions of the racing authorities and the bookies???

It happens on multiple occasions every year,in fact it happened at Mallow very recently.
There was 2 reasons why this has come out
a)Someone informed on the owner who is a succesful pinhooker (The fairplay Syndicate)
b)When questioned she admitted it.

When Ms.Dunphy trained in Wexford,her assistant was Des Donovan who now resides at MR.BJ Curleys yard