oil range question

vanderbadger

anyone using a stanley or similar oil range in their house, just for domestic hot water and cooking heat kitchen not for central heating..
are they any good or troublesome?

whelan1

have an aga, absolutely brilliant, heats water and we cook on it, dont use it for central heating... use it as a clothes dryer too. I turned it off this last few weeks as house was like a sauna

GY A1

vanderbadger wrote: »

anyone using a stanley or similar oil range in their house, just for domestic hot water and cooking heat kitchen not for central heating..
are they any good or troublesome?

had stanley one before and found a kinda smell off it,
there were no fumes or that in the room just a kinda smell of the kerosene,
would u think about a solid fuel range or want the handiness of the oil on timer,

vanderbadger

i was told that the stanleys really need to be connected to heating as opposed to just heating water and that they are very heavy on oil..

leg wax

vanderbadger wrote: »

i was told that the stanleys really need to be connected to heating as opposed to just heating water and that they are very heavy on oil..

we have a stanley,a new 1 put in 10 years ago (is that new)cook, heat water ,and underfloor heating, house is 2400 sq feet. with the 2 burners going full belt she burns 1 gallon a hour,now they wont be on full belt when they get up to heat,it costs us around 1600 for oil a year or so ,depends on how long we can leave off the under floor.

Muckit

leg wax wrote: »

we have a stanley,a new 1 put in 10 years ago (is that new)cook, heat water ,and underfloor heating, house is 2400 sq feet. with the 2 burners going full belt she burns 1 gallon a hour,now they wont be on full belt when they get up to heat,it costs us around 1600 for oil a year or so ,depends on how long we can leave off the under floor.

How do you find the underfloor legs? It's not like rads that give out instant heat, but I do like the sound of it and think if/when go building in the next 5 years will put it in.

Re stanleys..... are they practical for part timers that are out most of the day? I can see the merits for whelan and legs, but would a stove be more practical, some you could even cook on top of them and they would heat up quicker in evening

leg wax

Muckit wrote: »

How do you find the underfloor legs? It's not like rads that give out instant heat, but I do like the sound of it and think if/when go building in the next 5 years will put it in.

Re stanleys..... are they practical for part timers that are out most of the day? I can see the merits for whelan and legs, but would a stove be more practical, some you could even cook on top of them and they would heat up quicker in evening

we find it great,tiles are just great for it, underfloor is not instant by any means ,i think it takes 4 hrs to rise thru concrete and then it has to bring it all up to what ever temp.stanleys have timers so you can put on oven ,so when you come in its ready to cook straight away, so yes they are perfect for part timers,24 hr timer with a 7 day clock,you can have it on just before you get up in the morn and warm your arse up against it before you go out.

1chippy

Had one and changed it to a stove more for aesthetic reasons a few years back. Either one is a great job. Underfloor heating is most efficient if they are ran with a geo thermal system. They are expensive but are a lot cheaper than they were. You really need to set the underfloor to a set heat and keep it sort of ticking over so to speak if your heating and cooling the whole time you will end up burning a ball of fuel that's why the geo t works well

grazeaway

1chippy wrote: »

Had one and changed it to a stove more for aesthetic reasons a few years back. Either one is a great job. Underfloor heating is most efficient if they are ran with a geo thermal system. They are expensive but are a lot cheaper than they were. You really need to set the underfloor to a set heat and keep it sort of ticking over so to speak if your heating and cooling the whole time you will end up burning a ball of fuel that's why the geo t works well

yeah the key to efficent heating with a underfloor system is havign the heating on all the time, this is why they are so much more common in colder countries. you leave it at about 19-20 and it just tops up when requird. geothermal heating is ideal for this kinda thing but it needs to run on the night meter to be cheaper. a big issue with the geo thermal systems is that many were nder sized so the pump was under presure and eats electricty.

herself wanted UFH but i dont see the point of having it in this country as most time sour winters are quite mild. we put in rads and with the house well insulated it heats up quickly and holds the heat. there is a product that is like a under floor rad, you put the heating on top of your base (rather then in it) and run a floating floor about it. this would be more suitable for irish condtions.

Farmer Pudsey

I have one it is nearly 25 years old. It one of the Superstars I think. We have conventional radiators with thermostatic rad valves. I consider it economical we use around 1100 litres of oil a year so about 900 ish euro/year. Now house is very well insulated. Virtually no maintenance when it goes faulty every 3-4 years get maintenance man to fix issue and give it a clean.

Have put in a few solar tubes and they seem to have reduced our oil use as the range goes off completly in early may and will not be put back on until september. House is about 1800 sq ft.

49801

whelan1 wrote: »

have an aga, absolutely brilliant, heats water and we cook on it, dont use it for central heating... use it as a clothes dryer too. I turned it off this last few weeks as house was like a sauna

Have an aga where am living ATM and there is no way I am turning it on. An aga burns 24/7 weather you require the heat or not! Normal oil consumption is 65l/wk and more if you are heating water or radiators. First winter here we were using 100euro/wk in oil. We have a firebird boiler too for radiators. Bloody thing cost us a fortune before we cooped on. We even thought the tank might of been interfered with (it wasn't)

If you must have an aga it needs to be in the centre of the household so heat can radiate to the rest of the house. Bedrooms above it etc. Not like here where it's off in a 1 story wing and not contributing to heating the rest of the house.
If your at home all day cooking up a storm they have a place.

Strong feeling against aga's

leg wax

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

I have one it is nearly 25 years old. It one of the Superstars I think. We have conventional radiators with thermostatic rad valves. I consider it economical we use around 1100 litres of oil a year so about 900 ish euro/year. Now house is very well insulated. Virtually no maintenance when it goes faulty every 3-4 years get maintenance man to fix issue and give it a clean.

Have put in a few solar tubes and they seem to have reduced our oil use as the range goes off completly in early may and will not be put back on until september. House is about 1800 sq ft.

just looking at your sums v ours ,does this make sence,your house costs 2 euros a sq foot to heat,ours cost 1.50 a sq foot to heat,can we compare houses that way anyone ????

reilig

leg wax wrote: »

just looking at your sums v ours ,does this make sence,your house costs 2 euros a sq foot to heat,ours cost 1.50 a sq foot to heat,can we compare houses that way anyone ????

25 cents per square foot is what it cost me last year with the log gasifying boiler. €500 for 2000 sq ft. Boiler and equipment no more expensive than a good quality Condenser Oil boiler. One saturday can saw and stack a half a lorry load which will do a whole year!

Only thing I'd do if I had money is solar tubes for summer hot water.

whelan1

49801 wrote: »

Have an aga where am living ATM and there is no way I am turning it on. An aga burns 24/7 weather you require the heat or not! Normal oil consumption is 65l/wk and more if you are heating water or radiators. First winter here we were using 100euro/wk in oil. We have a firebird boiler too for radiators. Bloody thing cost us a fortune before we cooped on. We even thought the tank might of been interfered with (it wasn't)

If you must have an aga it needs to be in the centre of the household so heat can radiate to the rest of the house. Bedrooms above it etc. Not like here where it's off in a 1 story wing and not contributing to heating the rest of the house.
If your at home all day cooking up a storm they have a place.

Strong feeling against aga's

ye our aga is in the middle of the house, great heat in the bedrooms aboive it. cook everything on it/ in it. kettle aways boiling on it. Miss the hot water now its turned off

Farmer Pudsey

leg wax wrote: »

just looking at your sums v ours ,does this make sence,your house costs 2 euros a sq foot to heat,ours cost 1.50 a sq foot to heat,can we compare houses that way anyone ????

No it is hard to compare some people have houses warmer than others using range for cooking shews figures. Our house was build around 1990 so insulation was way different to now however we insulate house to higher standard. It also depend on how hot your bedrooms are we use thermo static rad's valves to control room heating.

Muckit

leg wax wrote: »

stanleys have timers so you can put on oven ,so when you come in its ready to cook straight away, so yes they are perfect for part timers,24 hr timer with a 7 day clock,you can have it on just before you get up in the morn and warm your arse up against it before you go out.

Ah but us poor farmers have bog up here legs. Oil is taboo and sends €€ signs flashing before our eyes!! :pac: The home house has a stanley, but it's fuelled by turf! It suits parent though because there's always someone there to keep it full!

vanderbadger

i think what im looking for is a gravity fed range just for cooking and hot water as opposed to pumped boiler type range

moy83

Im patching in a kitchen today with an oil range and they have it on ! Some heat out of it .

frankbruno

I'm new to boards.ie and I'm unsure as to whether I'm writing in the correct forum, but I have a question regarding oil ranges.

I want to change my Rayburn oil range from a wick system to another system where I can put it on and off as required. (preferably not a jet system) The drawback with the wick system is that it should be left on 24/7.

joejobrien

MIght be better posting it in the plumbing/heating section. Sorry I cant answer.

Night Nav

frankbruno wrote: »

I'm new to boards.ie and I'm unsure as to whether I'm writing in the correct forum, but I have a question regarding oil ranges.

I want to change my Rayburn oil range from a wick system to another system where I can put it on and off as required. (preferably not a jet system) The drawback with the wick system is that it should be left on 24/7.

H and F enterprises in Cashel Co.Tipperary worth a phone call they cover nationwide and done one for us years ago in Co.Cork

Farmer Pudsey

I said I hijack this rather than start a new thread. Anyone know anything about Stanley Errigal oil ranges. They have a wick system is this meaning that they tick over all the time. Are they heavy on oil.

joejobrien

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

I said I hijack this rather than start a new thread. Anyone know anything about Stanley Errigal oil ranges. They have a wick system is this meaning that they tick over all the time. Are they heavy on oil.

A neighbour has an effel, small type . cant think of the model number but he tells me they are a pure misers on fuel. Leaves it on constant all day long. Sorry cant answer on Stanley. It might help.

Nekarsulm

Parents had an Effel. No ash to cart out, nor sticks to split etc.They would turn it off at night, as they are easy enough to relight. Hard to judge their oil consumption as they also had central heating plumbed from same tank. I sold it last year and put in a Stanley Erin. Great heat from it, but you would use about two barrowful's of sticks in a 14 hour day.

_Brian

My wife's home place had a Hamco with this wick/pan system and it was mighty handy. It could be set on low and kept warm and used very little oil.

We don't have an oil cooker but definitely would consider these much superior to jet burner cookers.

Base price

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

I said I hijack this rather than start a new thread. Anyone know anything about Stanley Errigal oil ranges. They have a wick system is this meaning that they tick over all the time. Are they heavy on oil.

I am not familiar with the Errigal range but we have a Super 90 that is a wick system. Originally it would have been solid fuel. The man who services it told me that at the low setting it uses 3cc of Kerosene per min. It heats a full tank of water but it not very good at heating the radiators. It can only heat 3 single radiators (2 large) at the low setting. We normally leave the kitchen door open to allow the heat drift through the house during the day.
In really cold weather we would have to turn on the main oil burner to heat the bedrooms if required.

limerick farmer

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

I said I hijack this rather than start a new thread. Anyone know anything about Stanley Errigal oil ranges. They have a wick system is this meaning that they tick over all the time. Are they heavy on oil.

we have a stanley errigal its used for heating water and cooking and heats kitchen as well.There are no rads as we already had a boiler for them before we got it.Its not too heavy on oil 900 litres last year for two systems. one good thing is it works away without electricity it was appreciated greatly last feb when we had no power for a week. we turn it off every night although the service man says to leave it on low but its trouble free really.