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Checkpoints... do they catch many?

  • 21-07-2013 10:22pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,707 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    The tax and insurance checks I mean. Just wondering. I see them from time to time but in same location. Surely the dodgers just take alternative routes.

    Do they do them in random places where you are from? Me I have seen them in like 2 local locations in total. Just seems a bit thick not having greater element of surprise


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    Many what?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    God I haven't met a checkpoint in about 3 years, and even then it wasnt a proper checkpoint it was the armed unit obviously looking for a specific person


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    They must or they wouldn't keep doing it.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    I think Revenue will know if you haven't paid car tax, as they have your details once the car has paid VRT.

    In fairness most people would have tax and insurance paid (or out just a few days) :)

    Speed points however is a diffierent story, it would catch a lot I'd imagine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,711 ✭✭✭C.K Dexter Haven


    Just seems a bit thick not having greater element of surprise

    Does that then make you angry, like, very angry?


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  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Maddux Melted Pussycat


    How seriously do they take not having NCT?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭donegal_road


    How seriously do they take not having NCT?

    depends how long the NCT is up and whether you have applied to do one. Apply and have the appointment letter handy if you dont have the NCT.

    Likewise with the tax, have a tax renewal form handy with the off-the-road category filled out, and have it stamped at the garda station. It looks as if you have made the effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,438 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I really don't know why they bother with checkpoints for tax/insurance/nct. Would it not be simpler and far more efficient to have a walk through the country's shopping centre carparks on any given Saturday? Those cars were all driven on the public road to get there, and they wouldn't cause those 'down-to-one-lane' checkpoint queues. One Guard with a radio could cover hundreds of cars in an afternoon, instead of tying up a whole shift plus vehicles.

    Keep checkpoints for drink testing obviously. And no harm casting an eye over the discs while they're at it, but surely there's a better way of checking the revenue stuff?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭S28382


    I once drove up to a checkpoint on a fairly long stretch of road you would see the checkpoint from a good distance away, either way from where they were there were adjoining roads so if you were trying to dodge em for whatever reason you could do so very easily, it was a stupid place for a checkpoint so i very much doubt it if they caught anyone that day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭cassid


    Friend of mine is a Garda. He's says its all PR to show the public that the police are on the street, while they are doing traffic duty, the station is left minus Gardaí for serious issues. There seems to be loads of checkpoints now, there is even a facebook page, listing the latest checkpoints, speed guns etc, it's a busy ole page


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  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Maddux Melted Pussycat


    Haven't seen a checkpoint myself, in a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    cassid wrote: »
    Friend of mine is a Garda. He's says its all PR to show the public that the police are on the street, while they are doing traffic duty, the station is left minus Gardaí for serious issues. There seems to be loads of checkpoints now, there is even a facebook page, listing the latest checkpoints, speed guns etc, it's a busy ole page

    Don't get them FB pages, as most of time by the time the poster gets home, and puts the information up, the check point is probably gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭Bench Press


    S28382 wrote: »
    I once drove up to a checkpoint on a fairly long stretch of road you would see the checkpoint from a good distance away, either way from where they were there were adjoining roads so if you were trying to dodge em for whatever reason you could do so very easily, it was a stupid place for a checkpoint so i very much doubt it if they caught anyone that day.
    If they spot someone doing a u-turn or dodging them coming up to a checkpoint and go after them, they are in deep ****


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,257 ✭✭✭✭Rabies


    Many what?

    flying unicorns.

    What the fvck do you think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 497 ✭✭akura


    I was stopped at a checkpoint last week. It must of been the good weather because I haven't seen one in ages.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭S28382


    If they spot someone doing a u-turn or dodging them coming up to a checkpoint and go after them, they are in deep ****


    But no one has to do a u turn as there is other roads to just turn off on to thats why it was stupid where they had the check point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,797 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    depends how long the NCT is up and whether you have applied to do one. Apply and have the appointment letter handy if you dont have the NCT.

    Likewise with the tax, have a tax renewal form handy with the off-the-road category filled out, and have it stamped at the garda station. It looks as if you have made the effort.

    Not any more, you have to make the declatarion before you take the car off the road. Also, the traffic corps cars have on board computers with access to all tax.nct etc status.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    Nothing like seeing the GS spring into action on their spotting some car halfway down the queue trying to do a U turn, especially if it's a boy-racer type.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,660 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Got caught twice in one week for no seat belt,must be about ten years ago now though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    Mr. G wrote: »
    I think Revenue will know if you haven't paid car tax, as they have your details once the car has paid VRT.

    In fairness most people would have tax and insurance paid (or out just a few days) :)

    Speed points however is a diffierent story, it would catch a lot I'd imagine.
    You're posh, anyway. Next you'll be saying everyone has an NCT cert.. round here they seem to be regarded as obstructive to a clear view through the windscreen...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭Reindeer


    I fled on foot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,465 ✭✭✭Sir Humphrey Appleby


    Dont think they need as many checkpoints now, most Traffic Corps cars have an automated reader which reads the reg plate and can tell if the car is taxed and insured


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭oldyouth


    depends how long the NCT is up and whether you have applied to do one. Apply and have the appointment letter handy if you dont have the NCT.

    I suddenly remembered today that mine is out next week. Went online to book it in and the earliest date I could get was 1st October at 4.20pm. Better keep the appointment sheet in the car


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    Dont think they need as many checkpoints now, most Traffic Corps cars have an automated reader which reads the reg plate and can tell if the car is taxed and insured
    Mucky plates, ftw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭aphex™


    Haven't seen one in a while.

    However, the amount of cars they pull in the one outside IKEA they have from time to time.. it really is something to behold :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    cassid wrote: »
    Friend of mine is a Garda. He's says its all PR to show the public that the police are on the street, while they are doing traffic duty, the station is left minus Gardaí for serious issues. There seems to be loads of checkpoints now, there is even a facebook page, listing the latest checkpoints, speed guns etc, it's a busy ole page

    I hate that bull**** trotted out about Gardai shouldn't be doing X, y or Z because it distracts them from "serious" issues.

    Gardai are there to enforce the law no matter how trivial you might think it is (not that tax or insurance are trivial matters)

    You'd swear that unless it's murder or rape, no other crime matters and we should all just go ahead and do what we like


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    aphex™ wrote: »
    Haven't seen one in a while.

    However, the amount of cars they pull in the one outside IKEA they have from time to time.. it really is something to behold :eek:
    Ikea always deals in big volumes - and slight tightness... put two and two together..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8 Fsehnagorg


    Dont think they need as many checkpoints now, most Traffic Corps cars have an automated reader which reads the reg plate and can tell if the car is taxed and insured

    Still get a fair share of diesel dipping and combined revenue check points.

    They had a clamp down on small vans recently trying to catch out drivers who were on the live register. Apparently they caught out a lot of scrap metal dealers in the South East. No harm.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 4,621 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. G


    You're posh, anyway. Next you'll be saying everyone has an NCT cert.. round here they seem to be regarded as obstructive to a clear view through the windscreen...

    Well I'm definately not I can assure you! I suppose the reason nobody has NCTs in your area is because they all have new cars, rich feckers.


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  • Administrators Posts: 54,827 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    The last two checkpoints I have seen have been on one way roads with no roads to turn off, so it wouldn't matter if you saw them in the distance - you had nowhere to go.

    I have seen them have checkpoints with a flatbed truck sitting parked up, and cars parked behind it that they had obviously confiscated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭johnr1


    awec wrote: »
    The last two checkpoints I have seen have been on one way roads with no roads to turn off, so it wouldn't matter if you saw them in the distance - you had nowhere to go.

    I have seen them have checkpoints with a flatbed truck sitting parked up, and cars parked behind it that they had obviously confiscated.

    Don't see what use a "flatbed" would be to them in that situation. A beavertail would be what they'd need.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    One time I was going through a checkpoint with no NCT and out of date tax. I was bricking it, but then the garda pulled the car in front of me in and I got to drive straight through! :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭danger mouse


    endacl wrote: »
    I really don't know why they bother with checkpoints for tax/insurance/nct. Would it not be simpler and far more efficient to have a walk through the country's shopping centre carparks on any given Saturday? Those cars were all driven on the public road to get there, and they wouldn't cause those 'down-to-one-lane' checkpoint queues. One Guard with a radio could cover hundreds of cars in an afternoon, instead of tying up a whole shift plus vehicles.

    Keep checkpoints for drink testing obviously. And no harm casting an eye over the discs while they're at it, but surely there's a better way of checking the revenue stuff?


    Traffic wardens for the county councils do this. They walk around the public car parks and roads side parking spots in towns, checking for parking tickets and out of date tax discs. They issue a fine if your tax is out of date.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,827 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    johnr1 wrote: »
    Don't see what use a "flatbed" would be to them in that situation. A beavertail would be what they'd need.

    I bow to your superior knowledge of trucks. :D :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    They're doing it all wrong, if they want to catch people they need to start setting them up on the roads out of industrial estates.

    In Galway they set up a checking at the Ballybane Ind. estate and had revenue & Gardai there to confiscate and issue fines for non paid VRT/ no tax / insurance / nct. Caught a load of people and rightly so in my opinion.

    Say what you want about motor tax/nct/insurance being too expensive/pointless/etc. but the fact of the matter is, that's the law and if you don't like it then you can avoid paying them but don't freak out when you get caught.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭minotour


    Uriel. wrote: »
    I hate that bull**** trotted out about Gardai shouldn't be doing X, y or Z because it distracts them from "serious" issues.

    Gardai are there to enforce the law no matter how trivial you might think it is (not that tax or insurance are trivial matters)

    You'd swear that unless it's murder or rape, no other crime matters and we should all just go ahead and do what we like

    Well said, agree with you wholeheartedly, its about time someone had the balls to say it. No murder or rape now lads, down with that sort of thing, everything else is grand though.

    ....if only.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    I haven't seen a checkpoint in a good couple of years.

    However, My windscreen is now fully legal... Why is there not a checkpoint so I can show off :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭carzony


    How seriously do they take not having NCT?

    Not seriously, I'v had no nct for the past 6 months and most don't say anything about it. The odd time i'v had them ask, I just say I'll get it sorted soon and i'm waved on. Tax and insurance is the big thing.


    The majority of Guards and decent enough folks and because of that I'd imagine they don't like taking cars off people. Especially mothers with kids, young students and older people. For me having nct/tax is there just incase you catch a guard on a bad day.

    Checkpoints are regular enough around clondalkin/lucan/ballyfermot from my experience. If they did go crazy and started collecting cars properly the government would make a fortune off of it:D



    If they spot someone doing a u-turn or dodging them coming up to a checkpoint and go after them, they are in deep ****

    Somthing similar happened to me one night, My mate lives in a cul-de-sac and the gardai were doing a checkpoint just after it. So I was coming down the road and turned in, Went into my friends house for 10 minutes and as I left, I turned the opposite direction to the checkpoint. Next thing I know an unmarked corolla and a RSU Unmarked mondeo over takes me and blocks me in. Got the fright of my life. Maybe the car I was driving matched a description or somthing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭becost


    I was driving down the north circular one night and was approaching the junction near the five lamps. Noticed traffic was backed up but thought nothing of it, then turned the corner and about four cars in front of me was a checkpoint. Knowing that i had no tax, no insurance, no NCT, no license or any way to avoid it, the blood rushed out of my head. It was midnight and the garda was going right up to the windscreens with a maglight to check the discs. As I watched him carefully check each car in front, I was desperately trying to think what to say but knew there was no way out of this. After he finished checking the car in front of me, for some reason that I'll never know, he gestured me to move on. :eek: :) I looked in the rear view mirror and he was right up at the windscreen of the car behind me with his maglight. One of the weirdest things that ever happened to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,083 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    The Guards are down the road from me 24/7 but they are parked by the side of the road to stop them cutting turf, some people were giving out that it's taking them away from traffic duty.

    As regards checkpoints the last one I saw was in Craughwell about a year ago.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭mistermano


    im out the country

    people drinkin and drivin 7 nites a week

    the odd time a DD checkpoint goes up

    the local taxis have word straight back to all pubs on grouptext

    loads of people got no nct doe tax... for like years out of date


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭mistermano


    the checkpoints always go on the main roads

    anyone got no road tax ,insurance just detours on back roads


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭Bench Press


    whatever about no nct and no tax, driving without insurance is very foolhardy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,567 ✭✭✭Red Pepper


    whatever about no nct and no tax, driving without insurance is very foolhardy

    Look around lads. Reckon quarter of cars are not taxed to date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 483 ✭✭marialouise


    Nemeses wrote: »
    I haven't seen a checkpoint in a good couple of years.

    However, My windscreen is now fully legal... Why is there not a checkpoint so I can show off :)

    I get such a buzz from going through a checkpoint with all the bits up to date! Usually chasing my tail with one of them.... although I have to admit I get a bit of a kick too out of getting waved on despite one disc being blatantly out of date :p


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