Asulox for bracken/ferns

jobseek

Hello,
Can this still be got and where, reading on the internet I see that it was banned but was allowed for sale up until a certain point in the uk anyway, not sure about Ireland. I know roundup will kill it, but don't want to spray with that, also grass is too high at this stage for using a licker.
Would a strong dose of mortone kill it?
Thanks

1chippy

Like you i could do with finding out myself. i,m reading too that thee ban has been lifted in the uk, but cant find anything on ireland. I have a bit of ground that i cleared off a bit earlier in the year thats got a fair bit. i was hoping to bbale it, and then reseed after i pull the ditches out of it, but im not sure now. is it even safe to let a couple of strong stores into clean it off or will i have to go out and try pull every bloody fern in the place.

jobseek

Is it just to tidy it up you were going baling it for,I wouldn't be too keen on feeding it to stock though with the ferns

1chippy

Its ground i bought that i intended baling for dry cows. theres a few in through a couple of fields and th last one has a serious ccrop. i am going to spray them all anyway as i definately need to reseed it.

Bodacious

1chippy wrote: »

Like you i could do with finding out myself. i,m reading too that thee ban has been lifted in the uk, but cant find anything on ireland. I have a bit of ground that i cleared off a bit earlier in the year thats got a fair bit. i was hoping to bbale it, and then reseed after i pull the ditches out of it, but im not sure now. is it even safe to let a couple of strong stores into clean it off or will i have to go out and try pull every bloody fern in the place.

hi chippy,

don't go pulling a fern it'll cut you to the bone!! also they have a mass of complex deep roots!

Mortone doesn't knock a feather out of them, grazon 90 only burned edges...spot spray with roundup would be my advice.. time well spent

you could cut it and spend a bit of time removing the fronds from silage.. horrible plant to get rid of:mad:

Jcarnor

Careful with pulling out ditches reclaiming land Chippy. You need to have prior approval of Dept and have planted a replacement hedge before you take it out. Big penalty on your Single Farm Payment if you don't.

funny man

1chippy wrote: »

Like you i could do with finding out myself. i,m reading too that thee ban has been lifted in the uk, but cant find anything on ireland. I have a bit of ground that i cleared off a bit earlier in the year thats got a fair bit. i was hoping to bbale it, and then reseed after i pull the ditches out of it, but im not sure now. is it even safe to let a couple of strong stores into clean it off or will i have to go out and try pull every bloody fern in the place.

if the ban in the UK is lifted you wouldn't have far to go to get it;).

reilig

http://www.dhm.ie/

These guys are distributors for it in Ireland and the site says that they still do it. Give them a call to see what co-op has it in your area.

jobseek

Have contacted the local co-op,asulox is going to be back on sale. Quoted €105 for 5 litres. What sort of a chemical: water ratio does it need to be applied at?

Here's a picture of ferns that have been sprayed with mortone, while spraying rushes just done a small area to see what would happen. They seem well burned but I suppose time will tell if it is effective at killing them completely

Conmaicne Mara

jobseek wrote: »

Have contacted the local co-op,asulox is going to be back on sale. Quoted €105 for 5 litres

Did they say when? That price isn't out of the way, maybe three years ago the cheapest I could find was €99 for 5 litres.

1chippy

I got it in fane valley. theres limited supplies coming in and its illegal to posess it after the 1st of oct. Ditches thing is all sorted, just a matter of ripping them out.

Damo810

1chippy wrote: »

I got it in fane valley. theres limited supplies coming in and its illegal to posess it after the 1st of oct. Ditches thing is all sorted, just a matter of ripping them out.

Gone completely after the first? We have a field that's bad behind the fences with them.

Would connacht gold keep it? How much would 5 litres do and when would be best to spray them?

Bodacious

Damo810 wrote: »

Gone completely after the first? We have a field that's bad behind the fences with them.

Would connacht gold keep it? How much would 5 litres do and when would be best to spray them?

I put 1.0l into 95litres of water in quad sprayer and I spot spray ... It's precious stuff!!! Now is the time as all fronds should be out

jobseek

Bodacious wrote: »

I put 1.0l into 95litres of water in quad sprayer and I spot spray ... It's precious stuff!!! Now is the time as all fronds should be out

at that rate did you get a full kill on the ferns, as you say its precious stuff! so if one could get away with using as little as possible!

Bodacious

jobseek wrote: »

at that rate did you get a full kill on the ferns, as you say its precious stuff! so if one could get away with using as little as possible!

Check out the back page of journal ... Asulam has been given a reprieve to aid in the control of bracken jul 19 - 16 nov 2013 .. So lads... Buy enough for 3-5 years !!

Conmaicne Mara

Bodacious wrote: »

Check out the back page of journal ... Asulam has been given a reprieve to aid in the control of bracken jul 19 - 16 nov 2013 .. So lads... Buy enough for 3-5 years !!

Finally the Journal gives some good news

Conmaicne Mara

reilig wrote: »

http://www.dhm.ie/

These guys are distributors for it in Ireland and the site says that they still do it. Give them a call to see what co-op has it in your area.

Their website must be out of date. I just rang them, they're no longer the distributors and haven't been for a long time. The girl I was talking to had no idea who was the current distributor.

Bodacious wrote: »

Check out the back page of journal ... Asulam has been given a reprieve to aid in the control of bracken jul 19 - 16 nov 2013 .. So lads... Buy enough for 3-5 years !!

Was that this weeks Journal? I know I bought it, but where is the feckin thing now :pac: Did it give any details?

Bodacious

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Their website must be out of date. I just rang them, they're no longer the distributors and haven't been for a long time. The girl I was talking to had no idea who was the current distributor.



Was that this weeks Journal? I know I bought it, but where is the feckin thing now :pac: Did it give any details?

Yep back page of not today's but week's edition just gone by

Conmaicne Mara

Bodacious wrote: »

Yep back page of not today's but week's edition just gone by

found it in the most unlikely of places! should have been publicised better by department, time ticking on for that job.

ineedabreak

Didn't bought the IFJ for the past few weeks. Always something of interest of it when u don't buy it.

Who is the main supplier of it now in Ireland. Has anyone purchased it in the Leinster area. Very little information on the internet about it.

jobseek

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

Their website must be out of date. I just rang them, they're no longer the distributors and haven't been for a long time. The girl I was talking to had no idea who was the current distributor.



Was that this weeks Journal? I know I bought it, but where is the feckin thing now :pac: Did it give any details?

phoned them too, told me ring Kerry agri
im a long way from that end of the country, Connacht gold have it

Conmaicne Mara

jobseek wrote: »

phoned them too, told me ring Kerry agri
im a long way from that end of the country, Connacht gold have it

did they mention price?

jobseek

Conmaicne Mara wrote: »

did they mention price?

105 euro in connaught gold,may seem dear but consider the price of grazon and thistlex 46 and 33 a litre

Conmaicne Mara

jobseek wrote: »

105 euro in connaught gold,may seem dear but consider the price of grazon and thistlex 46 and 33 a litre

that's not dear, lowest price I saw before was €99.

allM

Anyone know where there are supplies of it at the mo ?

jobseek

allM wrote: »

Anyone know where there are supplies of it at the mo ?

Where are you located, in the west the larger Connacht gold stores should have it

stoeger

Apparently if you brake them they will die off i now a lad that welded angle iron on to an old land roller and he swears by it i didn't see the before and after but seen the roller and asked him about it .

allM

jobseek wrote: »

Where are you located, in the west the larger Connacht gold stores should have it

In the north west, ill give the one in sligo a shout thanks

jobseek

allM wrote: »

In the north west, ill give the one in sligo a shout thanks

They have it in stock!

Conmaicne Mara

Between the jigs and the reels in the other thread I almost forgot. Asulox did get a mention at the Hill Farming Forum on Friday, farmers were complaining it was gone off the market so how to control bracken to keep land in GAEC? Department said it will look at the issue again next year, so don't be surprised if you see it for sale again next year.

grange mac

Are ferns bad for cattle? Not happy that any patches I have get cleaned by bullocks

Connemara Farmer

Any word on Asulox for this year?

Username John

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

Any word on Asulox for this year?

Was it gone last year, or just hard to get?
Cos I used on some reseeding I did.

Connemara Farmer

Username John wrote: »

Was it gone last year, or just hard to get?
Cos I used on some reseeding I did.

It was only licensed for sale and use for a certain period of the year.

tomwaterford

Would round up work on ferns....I'm eyeing up a field for reseeding

Connemara Farmer

tomwaterford wrote: »

Would round up work on ferns....I'm eyeing up a field for reseeding

It will kill bracken, usually the problem using it is it kills everything else which isn't usually desirable when just killing bracken.