Potential new jobs boost

kilburn

Fingers and toes crossed ah sure i will cross the eyes aswell. !

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/regeneron-in-final-talks-to-take-over-dells-irish-facility-29436055.html

Mc Love

Great news - the Limerick Leader must be pissed as they have been missed out on breaking the news!

Whens M&S opening?

Berty

Great news.

I think we should build a monorail out to the factory.

bigpink

As good as high ebd jobs are we will also need low level jobs

kilburn

Really, I hear those things are awfuly loud

kilburn

bigpink wrote: »

As good as high ebd jobs are we will also need low level jobs

Its a pharma manufacturer there would be plenty of operator, warehouse, security, catering, admin jobs as well as high end jobs.

Kess73

If Dell gets sold and closed, then what happens to the 1100 or so workers that are currently there?


Regeneron, if it comes, is looking to hire a few hundred people. Surely that means the massive jobs boost of a few hundred new Regeneron jobs would come at the cost of 1100 Dell jobs in Limerick?

Insect Overlord

Kess73 wrote: »

If Dell gets sold and closed, then what happens to the 1100 or so workers that are currently there?

The article suggests it's the manufacturing building that's being sold. The jobs from that unit were lost already.

kilburn

They are looking at buying the emf3 plant, Noonan told the iDA to get it occupied.

I'd imagine its only the EMF3 (white) building. Dell will probably still operate from EMF1 (red brick) building. Great news all the same.

bazz26

It's the unoccupied white building they're talking about.

Kess73

Insect Overlord wrote: »

The article suggests it's the manufacturing building that's being sold. The jobs from that unit were lost already.

kilburn wrote: »

They are looking at buying the emf3 plant, Noonan told the iDA to get it occupied.

shaaane wrote: »

I'd imagine its only the EMF3 (white) building. Dell will probably still operate from EMF1 (red brick) building. Great news all the same.

bazz26 wrote: »

It's the unoccupied white building they're talking about.

Then it is nothing but good news if it goes ahead.

kilburn

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/business/life-after-dell-300-jobs-in-the-pipeline-1-5308668

Looks like MR Noonan has learned his lesson, afraid to comment until something more concrete

banie01

kilburn wrote: »

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/business/life-after-dell-300-jobs-in-the-pipeline-1-5308668

Looks like MR Noonan has learned his lesson, afraid to comment until something more concrete

Is commenting about not commenting actually commenting in any case?

kilburn

Its seems to be definite, they filed documents with SEC in America stating they were taking the plant and renovating it happy days a few hundred jobs for Limerick at last

http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/pharma-firm-regeneron-to-take-over-dell-facility-29561283.html

donutheadhomer

The average salary in Regeneron is $94,000 according to statistics from Indeed.com, the job search engine.

Sunday Independent


I'll take half that and still be happy

Kess73

EurasianBadger wrote: »

The average salary in Regeneron is $94,000 according to statistics from Indeed.com, the job search engine.

Sunday Independent


I'll take half that and still be happy

Half that would come in around the €35,500 mark. Would imagine that is a figure that a lot of this country would be happy to earn.

bazz26

US salaries will most likely have little or no bearing on what salaries they pay over here. The same way if they set up in Asia you can bet someone over there would not be paid the same rate.

mohawk

Would love to see this happen as I would love to be able to move back to Limerick without having to change industry.
Delighted for Limerick that it's looking more likely.

Left Back on the Bench

anybody know when these jobs will be becoming available or how we'll apply?

Cookiemunster

Left Back on the Bench wrote: »

anybody know when these jobs will be becoming available or how we'll apply?

I'd say that's a long way off yet. They haven't even completed the purchase of EMF3 yet. When they do then they have to outfit it before they can hire staff.

bazz26

Not anytime soon, that building is an empty shell at the moment.

Cookiemunster

According to the Post, An Taisce have appealed the planning permission for this to An Bord Pleanala on the gounds of infrastructure and accessibility to the area and concerns for traffic.
http://www.limerickpost.ie/2014/03/13/planning-threat-to-900-new-jobs/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
I always thought that an Taisce were nothing but a shower of cnuts who took pleasure in delaying important projects just for the sake of it, but this takes the buscuit.
How on earth could they possibly think that there would be any infrastructure and accessibility issues at a plant that had nearly 2000 people working there for a decade and is situated on a motorway? And the worse thing is we the taxpayer fund these nutjobs.

Poxyshamrock

Cookiemunster wrote: »

How on earth could they possibly think that there would be any infrastructure and accessibility issues at a plant that had nearly 2000 people working there for a decade and is situated on a motorway?

My sentiments exactly!

pigtown

Cookiemunster wrote: »

How on earth could they possibly think that there would be any infrastructure and accessibility issues at a plant that had nearly 2000 people working there for a decade and is situated on a motorway? And the worse thing is we the taxpayer fund these nutjobs.

I thought that too but the Leader has a reply from An Taisce. They were concerned that even though the city council has received €9 million for their Smarter Travel programme they had approved over 600 parking spaces in the site with no provision for walking/cycling.

Just the Post and that politician looking for headlines. An Taisce stressed that they absolutely had no problem with the factory, just the transport provision. To be honest I actually agree with them and if the company decide to pull out of the project for the sake of a couple of hundred parking spaces then they have too much money.

yankinlk

sorry but tell that to the many walkers, cyclists, and lunch time runners in that industrial estate.

Cookiemunster

pigtown wrote: »

I thought that too but the Leader has a reply from An Taisce. They were concerned that even though the city council has received €9 million for their Smarter Travel programme they had approved over 600 parking spaces in the site with no provision for walking/cycling.

Just the Post and that politician looking for headlines. An Taisce stressed that they absolutely had no problem with the factory, just the transport provision. To be honest I actually agree with them and if the company decide to pull out of the project for the sake of a couple of hundred parking spaces then they have too much money.

The 600 space car park, is the car park that's already there. Dell had around 1500 people a day working at the site with no issue, Regeneron will have 300.
There are footpaths from the front door of the factory all the way around the estate.
Also seeing as the exit is closer to the motorway than the rest of the estate I don't see how a cycle path from the car park to the roundabout is going to improve cyclist safety in the rest of the estate.
This is An Taisce appealing for no other reason than to appeal. An appeal to ABP can delay a project for over a year, which means people being out of work for even longer.

yankinlk wrote: »

sorry but tell that to the many walkers, cyclists, and lunch time runners in that industrial estate.

What? People will be entering and leaving the carpark in numbers at the beginning and end of their shifts, not a lunch time. Also I worked there for 5 years and we regurlarly safely walked at lunchtime on the good wide network of footpaths that have been there for years.

pigtown

Cookiemunster wrote: »

This is An Taisce appealing for no other reason than to appeal. An appeal to ABP can delay a project for over a year, which means people being out of work for even longer.

No, this is An Taisce doing its job; assessing planning applications for many things including how they will affect the environment.

The Leader article isn't on line yet but I can summarise. Smarter Travel targets a reduction in private car usage from 51% to 37%. The planners had approved 685 parking spaces on site but agreed that this didn't comply with the smarter travel policy. They proposed a new mobility plan be submitted two months after planning is approved but An Taisce argues that this will be too late.

yankinlk

Cookiemunster wrote: »

What? People will be entering and leaving the carpark in numbers at the beginning and end of their shifts, not a lunch time. Also I worked there for 5 years and we regurlarly safely walked at lunchtime on the good wide network of footpaths that have been there for years.

yeah we are saying the same thing. Limerick doesnt need a mobility plan, it needs jobs.

pigtown

yankinlk wrote: »

yeah we are saying the same thing. Limerick doesnt need a mobility plan, it needs jobs.

Why not both?

Cookiemunster

pigtown wrote: »

No, this is An Taisce doing its job; assessing planning applications for many things including how they will affect the environment.

The Leader article isn't on line yet but I can summarise. Smarter Travel targets a reduction in private car usage from 51% to 37%. The planners had approved 685 parking spaces on site but agreed that this didn't comply with the smarter travel policy. They proposed a new mobility plan be submitted two months after planning is approved but An Taisce argues that this will be too late.

Have a look at the site on google maps. The parking spaces are already there. The footpath network is already there. Creating a 300m cycle path out to the roundabout will be pointless unless the council (not Regeneron) build cycle lanes all over the estate.

Vanquished

While I would be generally supportive of the concept of a body like An Taisce and especially their role in highlighting inappropriate development and sloppy planning. I feel this is an unnecessarily heavy handed approach that will delay a highly important project for a number of months!

You cannot force people to cycle, walk or use public transport to get to work. What you can do is put the necessary infrastructure in place in an attempt to incentivise such behaviour and promote a modal shift where possible. But equally there will always be situations where certain people have no option but to commute to work by car.

Bus and cycle lanes have been developed in Raheen/Dooradoyle in recent years and another section towards Punches Cross is almost complete. Of course more are needed throughout the city but it is the responsibility of the local authority, the NTA and the Department of Transport to ensure that such provisions are put in place.

Of course another problem is that despite new bus lanes and the introduction of real time passenger information (apparently!). The Bus Eireann service is still unreliable with no firm commitment to improving it it would seem!

Silentcorner

This is a very typical case of media manipulation I have often alluded to.

I don't for a second believe that this objection (whether justified or not) will impede on the investment, they are already on the ground and the objection is related to access, hardly a deal breaker, if we can agree that then surely this "story" had no business on the front page.

Lets ask what the dynamics of this story are.

Firstly, how did it come to the attention of the journalist, was it from

1 The company Regeneron, very doubtful, in that case the first thing the Post would have done is contact Minister Noonan for comment as this is very much his "watch".

2 An Taisce, very doubtful, for the same reasons as above.

3 The Post, did the journalist do a bit of digging? Hardly, as above the first person he would have contacted would have been the minister, certainly not some FF no hoper.

4 The rotten FF party this time represented by Seamus Sheahan, who I suspect is trying to woo voters in the city ahead of the local elections, how he became aware of it I'll leave up to your imagination. This is by far the most likely source of this story, how else do you think a heretofore annonymous FF candidate got his name on the front page of the regions most read newspaper a couple of weeks before the local elections.

If I am accurate then, we need to ask ourselves.

Can the Limerick Post be trusted to be objective in it's coverage of the candidates in the upcoming election?

How has FF managed to get what I believe to be a complete non story on the front page? Who in The Limerick Post gave the nod to put that "story" on the Front page.

Why do FF fight so dirty, using the threat of job losses to raise profile, are they worthy of our votes in that case?

Remember FF are old pros when it comes to playing the dirty game, when you next find yourself in a polling booth

But because the media manipulate, we are all discussing the merits of the objection, the validitiy of an Taisce to threaten the investment etc etc.

Cookiemunster

@ Silentcorner. Nobody here thinks the investment will be withdrawn. However any appeal to APB will delay construction work starting at the facility by a minimum of 4 months, but generally a lot more than this.
I honestly don't see how reducing the size of a car park that's already there or putting in a 300m cycle lane that ends at the roundabout is going to help reduce car journeys when there are no other cycle lanes in the industrial estate and Bus Eireann continue to provide a p1ss poor service.