recommend me an estate

patrickc

Right folks, had a banger mondeo for almost 3 years sold it on and bought a 2005 mondeo estate back at the start of May, unfortunately shes going to scrap heaven now thanks to an accident and my insurer's say the mondeos uneconomical to repair.

I'm looking for something that has a bit of comfort, has to be an estate have 2 dogs and a baby due very soon, It has to be diesel I drive 25-40k a year and I want a few toys mainly cruise, climate and a sunroof will do.

have ruled out Audi's as they are too expensive for what you get IMO
thinking of Saab, Skoda, Volvo what else do people think is worth looking at and why?

I'll have about 5k to spend and want reliability as much as is possible.

thanks in advance.

Karl Stein

Honda Accord ictdi, 2006, €4999




Peugeot 407, Estate, 2007, €5150

monkeysnapper

I have a Audi estate and I have to say car drives really well but am very disappointed with boot space. So your right to avoid audis .

166man

Volvo V70 D5.

Interceptor

Subaru Legacy estate 2006-

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime

166man wrote: »

Volvo V70 D5.

OR an XC70, just a bit more height more off roady version !

bazz26

Rover 75:


http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/rover-75-diesel-estate-320d-bmw-2004/5237091

Not sure I'd pay that sort of money for one though.

patrickc

some nice suggestions there.

the xc70 is way too expensive seems to hold its value , as is the legacy (love that car though)

unsure about the rover

I also dont know if I want to pay more than the €710 tax per year on a 2.0 litre

frash

Passat Estate
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volkswagen-passat-dsg-06-estate-tdi/5369254

R.O.R

patrickc wrote: »

I also dont know if I want to pay more than the €710 tax per year on a 2.0 litre

Well, that rules the Volvo's out then. V50 is a "lifestyle" Estate (i.e. not really a large enough load area for 2 big dogs) and there was no smaller Diesel engine in the V70 than the 2.4 D5 lump, which will be in your budget.

After a quick scan through Carzone, it's pretty slim pickings for cars large enough that meet your criteria, that aren't Mondeo Estate's.

Big, Cheap, Comfy for distance, but not renound for reliability:
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Citroen/C5/diesel,e/36013681131439390/advert?channel=CARS

Slightly left field suggestion - decent boot, and gives the option to leave the dogs and take the Grandparents on days out:
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Peugeot/307/SW-EXECU/37713730495648910/advert?channel=CARS

Another floaty French barge:
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Peugeot/407/SW-SE-HD/201328215886415/advert?channel=CARS

Boot on par with the Mondeo, but an 06 2.0Tdi version may have it's own issues
http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volkswagen/Passat/2.0-TDI-/201311213657424/advert?channel=CARS

justsomebloke

what about looking at something like a santa fe

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-95-1-9-tid/5062759

3850 - haggle + VRT

patrickc

I Love that saab Samih I have to say.

what are peoples opinions on the 407sw?

dh0011

not sure if this lad really gets 50 mpg but
http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/04-toyota-avensis-tourer-nctd-2014/5355485
or another mondeo

The Pontiac

The V70 D5 would be my choice, but the tax is indeed high. The smaller V50 seems pricey used from what I've seen

I'd be taking the 9-5 for a test drive too (with the 150bhp diesel engine).

A Mondeo wouldn't be a bad choice either.

The Pontiac

samih wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-95-1-9-tid/5062759

3850 - haggle + VRT

That car is on donedeal for 60 days. Surprised it isn't sold. Makes me suspicious tbh.

galwaytt

samih wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/saab-95-1-9-tid/5062759

3850 - haggle + VRT

How much would VRT add ?

Fwiw despite the dearth of estates for sale, I took the ad for my 2.2 diesel 9-5 down as when I looked for a comparable replacement, there was nothing to match it out there really. ....

patrickc

galwaytt wrote: »

How much would VRT add ?

Fwiw despite the dearth of estates for sale, I took the ad for my 2.2 diesel 9-5 down as when I looked for a comparable replacement, there was nothing to match it out there really. ....

€928 of thereabouts the vrt seems to be.

think its worth a wee look actually.

The Pontiac

patrickc wrote: »

€928 of thereabouts the vrt seems to be.

think its worth a wee look actually.

Make sure to listen for the DMF rattle, as this car has 102k miles. Clutch half engaged (biting point) and hear for rattle noise. Fully engaged and the noise should disappear. .

Lostdad

Saab 95 estate - I've owned 2 and, in my opinion, you cannot get better value for money. The auto is the best option and the car comes with cruise control as standard in auto. Also is without exception the most comfortable car I have ever driven with fantastic seats for long journeys. The boot space is massive and the parcel shelf has a very clever folding design. The turbo adds excellent performance to the car especially on motorway driving and the "sport" button on the gearstick really does add boosts by changing the gearing ratios.
I've owned both the 2.0 turbo and the 2.3 HOT AERO estate. The aero was amazing power and performance and very hard to beat on the road if you chose to take on some of the "sporty" cars..a real wolf in sheeps clothing. Back seat space was also more than adequate and the ride comfort extended to them also...
Now for the caveats - you HAVE to maintain the service intervals and a full oil change every 6k miles is a must if you are to preserve the engine and turbo. There are a lot of saab specialist mechanics around and are happy to charge for their specialist status..but these cars are essentially GM so Opel dealers will have the ability to service comprehensively and a lot of the component parts in a service can be Opel rather than saab and are essentially the same thing at a lesser cost.
Ride on low profile tires can be rough - especially in the stiffer suspension on the aero and obviously tax and insurance are not cheap. Finally, the petrol saab should return 30 - 30 mpg but this can drop to 22 - 25 mpg AND in the aero..to 18 at times...but you usually have a really big smile on your face when getting this mpg.
I've owned 5 saabs in total and the reliability is fantastic, the comfort is second to none and, with the correct care to servicing, these things will go on and on - I clocked up 225k miles on one before I traded it.
If I was looking for an alternative it would probably be the V70. The Swedes don't just do self assembly furniture well.
Good luck with your search. And remember, you can join the masses...or you can drive a saab

Lostdad

Lostdad wrote: »

Saab 95 estate - I've owned 2 and, in my opinion, you cannot get better value for money. The auto is the best option and the car comes with cruise control as standard in auto. Also is without exception the most comfortable car I have ever driven with fantastic seats for long journeys. The boot space is massive and the parcel shelf has a very clever folding design. The turbo adds excellent performance to the car especially on motorway driving and the "sport" button on the gearstick really does add boosts by changing the gearing ratios.
I've owned both the 2.0 turbo and the 2.3 HOT AERO estate. The aero was amazing power and performance and very hard to beat on the road if you chose to take on some of the "sporty" cars..a real wolf in sheeps clothing. Back seat space was also more than adequate and the ride comfort extended to them also...
Now for the caveats - you HAVE to maintain the service intervals and a full oil change every 6k miles is a must if you are to preserve the engine and turbo. There are a lot of saab specialist mechanics around and are happy to charge for their specialist status..but these cars are essentially GM so Opel dealers will have the ability to service comprehensively and a lot of the component parts in a service can be Opel rather than saab and are essentially the same thing at a lesser cost.
Ride on low profile tires can be rough - especially in the stiffer suspension on the aero and obviously tax and insurance are not cheap. Finally, the petrol saab should return 30 - 30 mpg but this can drop to 22 - 25 mpg AND in the aero..to 18 at times...but you usually have a really big smile on your face when getting this mpg.
I've owned 5 saabs in total and the reliability is fantastic, the comfort is second to none and, with the correct care to servicing, these things will go on and on - I clocked up 225k miles on one before I traded it.
If I was looking for an alternative it would probably be the V70. The Swedes don't just do self assembly furniture well.
Good luck with your search. And remember, you can join the masses...or you can drive a saab

This pretty much sums it up (for a petrol engine). I drive a 2.0t estate after 2.3T (Aero) saloon and the lpt suspension imo suits Irish conditions much better than the somewhat harsh sports suspension. I upgraded the anti roll bars though, but as far as I know the stiffer ones were standard on the "Dame Edna".

comanche_cor

Another option, hard enough to come by but a good buy by all accounts is the jag x-type estate.

witnessmenow

Not an exciting car by any imagination, but I have a 08 Astra Estate and am very happy with it.

I have the 1.3 Diesel version, so its not the quickest, but it does me perfectly as my mileage is nearly all motorway

It has a timing chain, so no need to replace belts. I also believe it does not have a DPF.

They can be bought for around 6.5k and tax is €270 a year

They seem to be pretty basic so it might not suit your needs, but they are pretty comfy.

Most seem to have AC, and cruise control can be added very easily to them if it doesn't have it already (all the diesels come pre wired up for it). Not sure on sun roofs.

ednwireland

patrickc wrote: »

I Love that saab Samih I have to say.

what are peoples opinions on the 407sw?

lovely motor to drive but the electronics on our 06 1.6hdi .......

has to go back in now (i think its the brake light sensor this time -randomly throws errors about lights)

egr valve replaced and usual dpf stuff

having said that it keeps going and did a 2 week tour round france no bother came back rammed to the roof with wine. i always think its suprisingly quick for a 1.6.

mind i'm looking at replacing my knackered primera with a 9-3 saloon must be a gluton for punishment

Lex Luthor

Opel Vectra...they're big and cheap

(no mention of Skodas yet..!!!)?

comanche_cor

comanche_cor wrote: »

Another option, hard enough to come by but a good buy by all accounts is the jag x-type estate.

Am looking for an estate at the moment my short list in order of preference:
Megane Tourer 1.5 DCI (avoid the 1.9 problematic)
Focus 1.6 Petrol (1.6D is problematic)
V50 1.8 Petrol (1.6D is too small & problematic)

I am constrained by having an 18 yo learner driver on my insurance, however if she wasn't I'd be over the water to pick up an 2.0D x-type estate.

Lex Luthor

Interceptor wrote: »

Subaru Legacy estate 2006-

No legacy or any subaru diesel until 2008

patrickc

thanks all, plenty of food for thought to be had.

this is one of my favourites so far

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-v50-se-edition-2-0-diesel/5092704

havent driven anything yet insurance money should be here next week

00833827

do we reckon there would still be value to be had in going over the water and picking your own one up? Like that volvo for example is an import, seller wants 5 and half k - its 8 years old so VRT should have been tame enough, exchange rate is decent these days, I think you could cherry pick your own over there you'd do better and get milage closer to 100k if you had a weekend to give to it. I agree with the poster who said he would be over the pond to get an X-type - good value in those by the looks of autotrader.

Lex Luthor

patrickc wrote: »

thanks all, plenty of food for thought to be had.

this is one of my favourites so far

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-v50-se-edition-2-0-diesel/5092704

havent driven anything yet insurance money should be here next week

I hope your dogs are chihuahuas, cos the boot in the V50 is tiny

GavMan

159 would be sweet if you could find one. Probably a couple of K outside the budget...

The Pontiac

00833827 wrote: »

do we reckon there would still be value to be had in going over the water and picking your own one up? Like that volvo for example is an import, seller wants 5 and half k - its 8 years old so VRT should have been tame enough, exchange rate is decent these days, I think you could cherry pick your own over there you'd do better and get milage closer to 100k if you had a weekend to give to it. I agree with the poster who said he would be over the pond to get an X-type - good value in those by the looks of autotrader.

I think so. I was pricing 2009 Mondeos (2.0 tdci, 140bhp), out of interest. You can pick up a good one for £5,500. VRT is €3,200 for the Zetec. So that's about €9,500 for a 2009 Mondeo. Plus travelling expenses.

VRT is even less for the 1.8 diesel's, but the 2.0 140bhp is the one to go for.

The Pontiac

The Pontiac wrote: »

for £5,500. VRT is €3,200 for the Zetec. So that's about €9,500 for a 2009 Mondeo. Plus travelling expenses.

So about 10k give or take. That will take a hell of a haggle to get it down to the budget which was 5k

The Pontiac

This 9-5 estate is for sale in the North.

Haggle price £3,700 (€4,300) VRT = €1,768

Just over €6k landed.

DAZP93

What about a bit of luxury op..

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-530d-msport/5296148

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-e220cdi-diesel-estate-7-seats/5373120

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-c220-cdi/5302607

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/jaguar-x-type-2-0d-estate/5256227