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Third ever picture of Earth from Outer Solar System to be taken tomorrow night

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  • 18-07-2013 10:18pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭


    A Nasa spacecraft exploring the rings of Saturn will shoot a portrait of Earth on July 19.

    In 2006, the Cassini spacecraft saw Saturn eclipse the sun. These eclipses are rare, but another is due to happen on July 19, 2013.

    We humans have acquired only two images of Earth from the outer solar system – ever. Soon we’ll have a third, thanks to a Saturn eclipse that’s coming up on July 19, 2013. On that day, as the sun’s brilliant light is blocked by Saturn, Cassini will attempt to get the third-ever photo of Earth taken from the outer solar system.
    The shot, taken 898million miles away by the Cassini-Huygens spacecraft, will frame the whole Saturn system backlit by the Sun. In the distance, peeking over the edge of our star, Earth will also be captured on camera.

    Between 22:27 and 22:42 Irish time on July 19, Nasa is encouraging earthlings to go outside and wave at the far-away planet.

    But this photography session is not just an excuse for a jolly. Scientists are looking at the more diffuse (spread out) rings that encircle Saturn and how they are changing over time.

    The last time Cassini shot the Saturn system was in 2006. That portrait revealed that the planet’s dusty E ring had oddly large variations in brightness and colour around its orbit.

    Seven Earth years and one Saturnian season later, researchers will be studying images of this ring to try and understand the system’s solar radiation levels and magnetic field.

    As well as using the imaging cameras to do this, data will be collated from a visual and infrared mapping spectrometer, composite infrared mapping spectrometer and ultraviolet imaging spectrograph.

    Meanwhile, sitting on the surface of Titan, one of Saturn’s moons and the largest single expanse of unexplored terrain remaining in the solar system today, is the Huygens probe. Delivered by Cassini in January 2005, the probe houses instruments from The Open University, including multiple sensors to determine the physical properties of Titan’s surface and measure the physical and electrical properties of the atmosphere.

    According to Professor John Zarnecki of the OU’s Planetary and Space Sciences Research Institute, the Huygens probe has enabled scientists to examine Titan’s atmosphere – which has some similarities to Earth’s primitive atmosphere four billion years ago – and ‘go back in time to see some aspects of the Earth’s origins.’

    ‘It’s hard to believe our experiment is still sitting up there serenely on the surface of Titan having performed far longer than we ever expected, providing lots of data for us to analyse,’ says Zarnecki.

    ‘But the prospect of seeing images taken by Cassini of the whole Saturnian System and of Earth is enthralling.’

    On July 19 the image generated by Cassini will be the first to capture our planet in its natural colour, as human eyes on Saturn would see it.

    The only other spacecraft to shoot an image of Earth from the outer solar system was Nasa’s Voyager 1. The craft photographed us 23 years ago from a distance of four billion miles.

    Launched in 1997, Cassini entered Saturn orbit in 2004. Its mission is planned to end in 2017 – long enough to observe a half-cycle of Saturn’s seasons.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭ps200306


    I was lucky enough to spend a week with Zarnecki and other OU luminaries two summer's ago on an observational astronomy course in Spain. Some interesting campfire stories (although I didn't get to ask anything about Huygens). My meagre claim to fame is I helped him figure out heavens-above.com :D

    That's him third from right, and that's me ... well, that's me very near him. ;)

    11t4ry0.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,257 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    What's the light travel time from Earth to Saturn ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭MeteoritesEire


    What's the light travel time from Earth to Saturn ?

    Saturn is between 8 and 11 times farther than the sun and the suns light takes 8 minutes to reach us so
    8 to 11 times 8 minutes depending on orbital location


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,229 ✭✭✭LeinsterDub


    Saturn is between 8 and 11 times farther than the sun and the suns light takes 8 minutes to reach us so
    8 to 11 times 8 minutes depending on orbital location

    Shouldn't that technically be 7 to 10? As the Earth is 1 unit from the sun to begin?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,257 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    This link says it's 1.33 Light Hours from Earth


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Shouldn't that technically be 7 to 10? As the Earth is 1 unit from the sun to begin?

    No, the 1 unit is included in the 8 to 11.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,752 ✭✭✭Bohrio


    I think that it depends on earth positions too

    Saturns Apheleon

    Distance 1,513,325,783 km
    Time 1 h 24 m and 17 sec

    Periphelion
    Distance 1,353,572,956 km
    Time 1 h 15 m 15 sec

    Current distance Saturn - Earth
    Distance 1,444,621,760 km
    Time 1 h 20 m 18 sec


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 2,094 Mod ✭✭✭✭dbran


    Saturn Rises today 19/7/13 at 14.44 and sets 00.57 (tomorrow morning) low in the sw at 10.27.


  • Registered Users Posts: 495 ✭✭ciaranmac


    Shouldn't that technically be 7 to 10? As the Earth is 1 unit from the sun to begin?

    The planets aren't strung out in a neat line like in a science book though. For half of each year the earth is further from the sun than from Saturn.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 2,094 Mod ✭✭✭✭dbran


    What's the light travel time from Earth to Saturn ?

    80.31 light minutes tonight per Sky Safari :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭MeteoritesEire


    ciaranmac wrote: »
    ...... For half of each year the earth is further from the sun than from Saturn.

    not true


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Popoutman


    ciaranmac wrote: »
    The planets aren't strung out in a neat line like in a science book though. For half of each year the earth is further from the sun than from Saturn.

    You meant to say for about half the year, Earth is farther from Saturn than Saturn is from the Sun..


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,346 ✭✭✭King George VI


    When do we get to see the pic?


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,394 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    ciaranmac wrote: »
    For half of each year the earth is further from the sun than from Saturn.

    The Earth is never further from the Sun than it is from Saturn.

    I think what you meant to say is that for half the year (when Saturn is close to the Sun in the sky i.e. below the horizon at midnight), the distance between the Earth and Saturn is up to 2AU greater than it is when Saturn is at opposition.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12 blah blah whatever



    Between 22:27 and 22:42 Irish time on July 19, Nasa is encouraging earthlings to go outside and wave at the far-away planet.
    Well budgie, no one told me!

    Images will be up here sometime.

    Other people who were waving.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    The RAW image: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS79/N00213958.jpg

    Edited with noise removed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightsinthedark/9329557951/

    I've seen better pics of saturn taken from earth. Might aswell have been taken with a mobile.


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,394 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    Hal1 wrote: »
    I've seen better pics of saturn taken from earth. Might aswell have been taken with a mobile.

    Given the age of the technology and how they test stuff to death before sending it up in a space mission (so it's usually already out of date at launch time), you're probably closer to the mark than you think.

    But the picture is of Earth taken from Saturn (currently 1,450 million kms away) so it was never going to be anything other than a picture of the Sun with the Earth as a faint nearby dot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 390 ✭✭Rubeter


    Hal1 wrote: »
    The RAW image: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/multimedia/images/raw/casJPGFullS79/N00213958.jpg

    Edited with noise removed: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lightsinthedark/9329557951/

    I've seen better pics of saturn taken from earth. Might aswell have been taken with a mobile.
    Did you think we sent one of these out to Saturn? :confused:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭Michael D Not Higgins


    coylemj wrote: »
    it was never going to be anything other than a picture of the Sun with the Earth as a faint nearby dot.

    I think that's the earth and moon not Sun and earth


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    Rubeter wrote: »
    Did you think we sent one of these out to Saturn? :confused:

    Well surely the tech used on cassini would be on par with a celestron scope?

    11069_nexstar8se_mid.gif

    Resulting in something along the lines of (pic of earth equivalent) :

    1175128835_saturnandsevenm.jpg

    Just feel a bit ripped off :o.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    It will have to do :P.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,686 ✭✭✭✭Zubeneschamali


    Hal1 wrote: »
    1175128835_saturnandsevenm.jpg

    Just feel a bit ripped off :o.

    Consider the size of Saturn vs. Earth and Moon, though:
    Saturn,_Earth_size_comparison.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 720 ✭✭✭peterako


    My immediate thought too.

    Earth is tiny compared to Saturn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭mr lee


    earth really is a beautiful planet


  • Registered Users Posts: 959 ✭✭✭ZeRoY


    mr lee wrote: »
    earth really is a beautiful planet

    Yeah its just the people on it that's the problem :P


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