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The media

  • 18-07-2013 7:35am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭


    Looking for opinions on what people really think of the media.
    Do you believe it to be fact once you read it or do you question the motives of the news agency.
    Personally I find it very hard to trust the media thst they are giving us all the facts or just following an agenda.
    Do you even buy the paper anymore?
    I don't give a toss what sex the royal baby is,if david beckham broke his toe or what brian o driscoll went to the movies to see with his fame obsessed wife.
    A news piece yest as an example 25 Indian kids died from contaminated food,25000 people die in India every day from curable diseases but that doesnt sell papers.
    Is it all a big con then folks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭JonSnuuu


    Meh, they do what they do to sell papers.

    They know that there are millions of people worldwide that actually do care about the sex of the royal baby and other pop culture things like celebs.

    Unfortunately "25,000 Indians die from Cholera " doesn't sell half as much as "It's a Boy/Girl!!" or something to that effect.

    No real point in blaming the media as it's the people who buy and read them in their thousands every day that are encouraging it. If people stopped caring about celebrities, the media would stop covering them. Unfortunately too many people are obsessed with how other people live their lives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    hedgehog2 wrote: »
    Looking for opinions on what people really think of the media.
    Do you believe it to be fact once you read it or do you question the motives of the news agency.
    Personally I find it very hard to trust the media thst they are giving us all the facts or just following an agenda.
    Do you even buy the paper anymore?
    I don't give a toss what sex the royal baby is,if david beckham broke his toe or what brian o driscoll went to the movies to see with his fame obsessed wife.
    A news piece yest as an example 25 Indian kids died from contaminated food,25000 people die in India every day from curable diseases but that doesnt sell papers.
    Is it all a big con then folks

    The eye-catching specific example always beats the general background noise. Its why Newtown school massacre was news everywhere and the 1, 2 or 3 people killed by gunfire in a given city every day are not. Basic media studies are required for some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    JonSnuuu wrote: »
    Unfortunately too many people are obsessed with how other people live their lives.

    We, as humans, are such a vane species...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Matt_Trakker


    hedgehog2 wrote: »
    Is it all a big con then folks

    Pretty much, plus you didn't mention the pressure they are under from advertisers.

    Best thing to do IMO is to read a few different sources of news per day. Give yourself a fuller picture and make up your own mind......and stay away from all print media, unless you need something to collect the bird sh!t at the bottom of your bird cage.

    Best resource for news would have to be twitter or a loaded RSS feed IMO, follow a ton of different sources and then read up and make up your own mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Stuboyovo


    Yep, the media has an agenda; sell newspapers, keep advertisers happy and, depending on the company, push a political party POV.
    I totally agree with Matt ^^^^^ "follow a ton of different sources and then read up and make up your own mind"

    As someone who worked within a media (TV) company, I've seen political sycophancy of dizzying proportions, which was really amusing as it was driven by greed of the work which could be doled out by that political party while in power and accompanied by a loathing of the political class. But then again I think the boss was a clinical non criminal psychopath. ah well.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    The media's agenda is to make everyone miserable for profit. At least the government makes a loss when it does the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,569 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    BeerWolf wrote: »
    We, as humans, are such a vane species...
    Indeed we are, blowing whichever way the wind takes us...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    All of them have an angle. Look at our own indo and times, followed closely by RTE. All of them are politically influenced (despite what they tell us).

    The papers will print anything, as my mother used to say

    'paper never refused ink'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Does Boards.ie count as media?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,448 ✭✭✭crockholm


    Hoop66 wrote: »
    Indeed we are, blowing whichever way the wind takes us...

    Drole.

    Well played Sir/Sirina:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Matt_Trakker


    studiorat wrote: »
    Does Boards.ie count as media?

    I would presume that boards is full of people who are paid by certain organisations to start threads, keep discussions going etc.
    Prob so the organisations they're worrking for can do some easy data mining here and gauge opinion on certain things.
    There is a certain jargon name for these people, but can't think of it off the top of my head.

    Boards isn't media I'd reckon, but it has close ties to thejournal.ie, it quite often happens that a popular thread here will appear as an article on the journal the following day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    The media are a shower of cocaine-addicted sexual deviants with questionable dress sense, and I may just have another child so I can forbid him or her to marry one of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Boards isn't media I'd reckon, but it has close ties to thejournal.ie, it quite often happens that a popular thread here will appear as an article on the journal the following day.

    All sounds very tinfoil hat to me..

    Perhaps you'd like to define "Media" before beginning a discussion on it. Mass Media? News Media? Print Media? Digital Media? Television Media?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    TheJournal.ie | BusinessETC.ie | TheScore.ie | DailyEdge.ie | Boards.ie | Adverts.ie | Daft.ie are all under the one roof. We've been co-opted and we didn't even know it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    I would presume that boards is full of people who are paid by certain organisations to start threads, keep discussions going etc.
    Prob so the organisations they're worrking for can do some easy data mining here and gauge opinion on certain things.
    There is a certain jargon name for these people, but can't think of it off the top of my head.

    There was a guy on here that reckoned boards paid this girl to post, pretty much what you are saying and to keep the discussions sensible, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Christ the Redeemer


    A pox on all of our houses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,195 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    There was a guy on here that reckoned boards paid this girl to post, pretty much what you are saying and to keep the discussions sensible, etc.

    But that would mean there was a professional shill on an Internet discussion forum! Say t'ain't so, Paw! :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    mike65 wrote: »
    TheJournal.ie | BusinessETC.ie | TheScore.ie | DailyEdge.ie | Boards.ie | Adverts.ie | Daft.ie are all under the one roof. We've been co-opted and we didn't even know it!

    Actually, It's on the footer of the website....


    whoops!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭DaveDaRave


    who teh fook reads footers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    Its fine as long as you don't get wrapped up in it. Thats why Ive never understood the term "rag" bandied about for this paper or that paper (with the exception of tabloids which are usually complete shíte)
    I dont bother with editorials, I read opinion pieces usually as an interested neutral but I can understand that they are opinion pieces. What columnist X thinks on something could be an interesting read but it doesnt become MY thinking on it. I don't join their fan club and go around spouting to all n sundry about what they write or pass it off as my own opinion. I guess the problem is too many people dont like to formulate their own ideas on things and would rather the meeja tell them what to think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,366 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    jimgoose wrote: »
    But that would mean there was a professional shill on an Internet discussion forum! Say t'ain't so, Paw! :eek:

    People laughed at it & were on about tin foil hat, etc. :pac:

    Madam X I think was the accused


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Red Alert


    TheJournal.ie is a joke. They have banned me for some arbitrary reason, and they do not feel the need to inform you why. Instead, when you post, the comment appears to be accepted but it never appears on the page. They really don't like any criticism of either their own editors/"journalists" or other members of the media. The fact that boards.ie is some way mixed up with them makes it worse...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭Nemeses


    DaveDaRave wrote: »
    who teh fook reads footers

    I do.

    Also the terms and conditions are there too that you should know......:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    I find it highly ironic when people say news should be objective. The stories they picked were subjectively picked. I rarely tune into the news. Bad things happen daily but so do great things just unfortunately people seem to thrive off bad news so that's what's picked majority of the time.

    What really annoys me is any sort of celebrity holding space in a paper. People obsessed with the Kardashians or some dope boyband member caught doing coke off a strippers toe are just....idiots. I mean is your life that uninteresting that stupid s**t like that matters to you. I get the response "only a bit of fun". No. No it's not it is everything wrong with modern culture. Our idols are vacuous people who contribute nothing to society and it says more about us that we care about that. People need a reality check.


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